I plan to buy this 2003 Proton Waja Auto, is it good to buy it now? How is the spare part like for example is it expensive to maintain? Please advice me, thank you.

not good to buy at any time.. the 1.8 is a renault and u know when its european its always with the rarity and expensive.
besides, the 1.8 is not that all powerful.. might as well get a modified mitsu 1.8 engine
but buy at ur own risk la

i "pinjam" both 1.6 and 1.8 before
power wise both are almost the same but 1.8 are more refined and more reponsive compare to 1.6 that shout like hell when u want to potong car
but the owner told me the part are expensive compare to 1.6
fc wise olmost the same

fc stand for?

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Added on January 18, 2011, 2:55 pmthanks for the advice. You mean buy the modified mitsu 1.8 then replace the renault one? But how much will it cost like that?

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Added on January 18, 2011, 2:58 pmThe one I plan to buy is 2003 Waja Auto 1.8 Premium, is it Premium is better than previous vision? I heard that Premium is more expensive last time when buying the 1st hand.

This post has been edited by ysoon: Jan 18 2011, 02:58 PM

The 1.8X? No-no...

1. Road tax is higher, over RM 280.
2. Parts super expensive and hard to find.
3. Too many sensitive electronics.
4. ECU is behind the front bumper, sure damage from accident or constant splashing of water.

I rather pay a little more to get 1.6.. I'm Waja 1.6 owner.
Survey the market, 1.8 when new car are expensive than 1.6, why now cheaper than 1.6? What's the problem.. Above many sifu advise you and stated all the problem of 1.8 Waja d.. So think twice..

I'm using 1.6 Waja..so far the problems is the fuel pump, always change within 2 years..

My friend used to have Waja 1.8..he headache much on the electronics. The ABS light just once wnt off for service, till he sold the car the light still on..

If you wanna do modding projects (eg GSR Mivec or Turbo) then it should be ok for u to pursue with this car..

Thanks for your advice. My friend told me Waja 1.8 Premium still ok, can consider but not Campo, so is it Premium is better than Campo?

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Added on January 19, 2011, 9:34 amHow about 1.6 one? Ok to buy that?

This post has been edited by ysoon: Jan 19 2011, 09:34 AM

get 1.6 la no need pening
replacement part got brand a to z
cheap to expensive olso got

campro olso okay ma
allittle crappy at pickup but part are plenty olso
dont consider the 1.8 as it will give u headache if u dont know what whats
sommore if u go outside workshop the boss see 1.8 sure chop u kaw kaw

btw fc stand for fuel compsumtio

Thank you brother........
Definitely will not think about 1.8
but I am considering the 1.6 Wira too.
For you, 1.6 Wira or 1.6 Waja. Which one will you choose?

waja la of course..wira 1.6 got gb problems

but I heard that Waja fuel comsumption is higher than Wira, right?

this 1 see ur luck
lot ppl shouting around say saga got high fc but mine still good even though its older than theirs
it all depent how good the old owner maintain and keep check of their car
sometime i hang around my forman shop and seen some owner came to the shop as why their car very rough 1
turn out out of engine oil and running 3 cylinder for weeks d the rest history with burned wallet

wira get the manual version as the auto are quite fragile like the perdana's
not said is bad but must maintain and sayang it alot like ur gf la
waja so far so good apart from small annoying problem like door handle fault , wiper lingkage always jam , power window kong , bla bla bla but wira olso got this minor nicks

for me i choose waja over wira cuz the years diffrent and the price are not very far diffrent
as years adds up the wear and tear item will worn out so replacement needed
millage matters olso

This post has been edited by sinister_sid: Jan 19 2011, 04:30 PM

Proton Waja , ok... but my friends that day said want to sell only RM 18000 only... but is year 2001 one..

if you interested i can ask him to call you..

Thanks for everyone that giving me the advice. Some of my friends had told me that actually for used car, I can consider looking for 1998 wira auto 1.6 or before 1998 because the engine is Japanese Mitsu, it's better than those after the 1998 one. How do you guys think about it?

This post has been edited by ysoon: Jan 31 2011, 11:24 AM

^Better get after 2000 cars... As the car aged 15 years, it will be harder to get insurance...
To maintain a car's FC, regular service and good quality oil to be used....

I was driving a '94 wira 1.6. Lots of problems including GB problem. You can get this damn cheap now around 7-8k. Later transplant....

lucliky i found this topic here, in fact i do plan to get this type of model for fun....since lots of comment here better think twice....maybe getting Perdana to play around.

waja 2003 is campro version right?

what i want to say..









NOT WORTH YOUR MONEY!

find 2000-2001 version MMC engine 4g18 waja 1.6

Off topic : As a ex-engineer/technician of proton, dont tell me you doesn't know Campro doesn't produce 1.8. If you follow the replies in this thread, you'll see that people already mentioned this is a Renault engine. Please stop spamming around the forum without even go through what people is discussing.

thanks dude, suprise that you can find me here he he he

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Added on February 6, 2011, 1:23 pmHi i am sorry to make this mess here, actually he is trying to advise me for i should do, anyway hope you understand. Once again, i know the 1.8 engine is Renault the only thing i am afraid i will regret for this car. He is trying to help so he answer it here, Sorry man i cause this eror here.

This post has been edited by sfotsy: Feb 6 2011, 01:23 PM

Well, Proton are very very proud to come out with their 1.6 Campro engines.... And if they do come out 1.8 Campro engines and mount it on Inspira, I'll avoid buying it.... Getting back Mitsubishi engines are good especially getting second hand cars. At least foreman are more experience on repairing them...
Getting second hand cars are not depending on luck, but also the knowledge on maintaining it.

It's not your fault and at all. If he doesnt know that 1.8 model is using Renault engine, then why it's he say it's no good? Think of it, does his reply really useful to you?

By the way, If you follow all the replies by him, you'll see that he's spamming all around the Fast & The Furious section and keep pushing his Eneos product.

why so marah
how do you know im x-engineer at Proton
its so unrelated to the topic..no need to touch my personal life..im very tacing person ok..

of course i know about it.. i'm really sorry because i dont read the discussion on details first..

ok if you want to buy waja 1.8 is not worth your money because of spares is hard and expensive compared to 4g18 waja. if you plan to buy waja campro.. i also not recommended since many user complain and my brother also complained it have no power... waja is heavy and the engine is only 1.6... same thing happen to Kia Forte.. big size of car, low cc engine.. no torque during driving to Genting.. my friends so frustrated..

thanks you..

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Added on February 6, 2011, 9:56 pmOk.. if that you call spamming.. i will stop.. but im not only suggest to the user.. i also help them to solved the problem.. please do refer to each topic ok..
and also.. why are u so jealous anyway?... you dont help anything.. if you know, why dont u help him in the first place...
ade udang sebalik batu..

Sorry for any incovinience..ok.. go back to the topic..

This post has been edited by gagak_84: Feb 6 2011, 10:03 PM

The one bout people talking on expensive spare parts on this 1.8 renault F4P engine is true since very few units was produced and thus the availability of 2nd hand parts is scarce.

But, I can definitely tell you the driving experience on this 1.8 renault engine is much much better than the stock 1.6 4G18. I own a 2001 waja 1.6 and driven my cousin's 1.8 waja.

The first impression is the torque delivery on the 1.8 is smoother,it revs much easier and more pickup than the 4G18. Not to mention the NVH level is improved from the old waja due to different dampers being used for the car.

But the faster 1.8 waja comes at a price.The FC I can say is more terrible than the waja 1.6.My cousin says he only gets bout 140km on RM30 of RON95 fuel. I can easily get 190km on RM30.

So far,he did not complain of any major fault with his waja beside power window and the occasional squeak from the suspension.The engine is still in good condition.

In conclusion, if you use the car more for highway and long distance travel,by all means go for the 1.8 waja. If you use the car more for town driving, then the waja 1.6 is more suitable. You can get a 2003 version at RM3k more than the waja 1.8

This post has been edited by 779364: Feb 6 2011, 10:16 PM

yes, even though it quite expensive but the reliability is stand strong.. same thing happen to savvy..

A question here. Waja < year2005 1.6 all mitsu engine right? which is 4G18 to be exact

Waja 1.6 is far more reliable than the 1.8. I can amke the FC lower, can reflash. Keep the engine clean, you wont get high fuel consumption.

Another thing is, do you see any waja doing overhauls in workshops? Answer is no.... if yes, seldom. Robust engine block

and you need to keep in mind maybe not many machanic know how to fix a renault engine.

So, it may be wise to get a easier engine to fix. Car is not a one off deal, you need to repair, maintain and such as such.

i am and i was a waja 1.8 user before.now mivec oredy.my advice is,go for waja 1.6.

but the truth is,it depends on your luck when buying 2nd hand car..

Buy a Problem Waja 1.8 renault engine @ cheap price . can get 10k++ At mudah.my
den convert engine either 1.6 Mivec , 1.8 SOHC or 1.8 DOHC Turbo
for Excitement , go for 2.0 EVO Halfcut

if i were u , convert better . japanese halfcut is always better than those RENAULT AND CAMPRO LOLZZZ

FYI Waja 1.6 & Wira 1.6 uses different engine.

Waja 1.6 = 4G18

Wira 1.6 = 4G92

That's why Wira got different problems than Waja......

EVERY car model also got problem one
can u list out 1 car that is 100% perfect ?