hello guys,
i just registered my trial account 3 days ago, US version.
now i want to upgrade but i dont know what and where to buy for a starter like me.
i need u guys help,
what and where shud i buy things so i can play full version? i live in k.L btw. (very thankful if can provide info and price)
what factions and realm that have many malaysian ppl play?
i think thats all for now,
thanks for ur time.

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from internet, youbeli.com or pcgames.com.my(i forgot if there is a 's' r not)
there area also some lowyat forum wow player also sell the game too, they should reply to this threat if they seen it(i forgot the name, sorry)
and buy 1 battlechest, it got the original wow(we call it vanilla) and one expension named The Burning Crusade.
then 2nd expension (wrath of the Lich King)
next and current expension (the Cataclysm)
for cheaper game card, you can buy it in the garadge(i fail spell)

there are both horde and alliance in lowyat net,
and on both pve(player vs enviroment, play against computer) and pvp(player vs player you are most likely kill by other faction if seen on sight... and camped) server.(which server type do you want to play anyway?)
i only remember in
thaurissan(pvp) horde; alliance there is on hard mode due to horde out number alliance 10:1, play alliance IF you really want a real man's challenge.
Barthilas(pvp) an old server, slightly better than thaurissan server, 3:1
Barthilas's Escorts Guild are form by Lowyat forum player.

i don't know much about pve server,
i guess they will replay and ask you to join their guild.
you can also check their guild recruitment in this forum as well.

its better you decide which faction and what race or class YOU want to play; then choose server and server.
its ok if you want to gather info now and decide later what you want as to play

good luck adn have fun, don't play too much.

they open weekdays only? i checked their website.. but thanks for the info.

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Added on January 16, 2011, 10:56 amhello,
very thank for ur info btw.
i found 1 person that selling those cd key and now waiting him to reply me.
about races and class, its doent matter what races rite? just the class divide ur style playing? am i correct? or certain races is good for certain class??
example like if i play human, i have to make warrior to or i can choose any class i want and it will be same strong??
i dont mind playing PVE or PVP, i just need frens to guide me what to do and where to go in this WOW world.
i mean guide and not help* (gold, powerlevel etc etc) so if any1 can guide me, muchly appreciated.

p/s - sorry if double post is not allowed here.

This post has been edited by elasticote: Jan 16 2011, 10:56 AM

I get my cdkey frm offgamers with cdkey+30days trial...rm50
I also just started in us server yesterday

about races(male or female) and class combo, there isn't really any noticeable in stat/number between the race at the high end or at level60
pretty much the same.
(ok, i admit, if you roll female toons people tend to treat you sightly better than male)

for hardcore player, the main diffrence is the racial ablilty, they want to squeese every advantage they can get. some racial does make a diffrence in some situation.
say currently for pvp racial: forsaken's will the the forsaken; human's everyone for himself. both can re-gain control on certain spells
and etc...

for pve racial: blood fury(add slightly more damage for a small amount of time);
Night elf's quickness(for 2% more dogue rate, slightly better for druid's bear tanking compair to tauren's Endurance Base Health +5% druid's bear tanking.)
etc... its all debateable. in players point of view.

while other player just pick some certain race just for the looks(brute or beauty), or the story behind the race that inspire you.

mostly is just:
its pain that you play a toon, and in the middle, you felt "man, X+Y combo is better" then you felt you waste your time, and decide to re-roll again. that pain.

there are 3 very useful website you can browse that can serve you as a guild(if you can find anyone to help)

1st, the MMO-champion, this one keep update the latest news, patch note happen over the world about wow. got their own forum to discuss stuff.

2nd, Wowhead, all about quest/spells, very informative and very upto date. got their own talent calculator got their own forum to discuss stuff.

3rd. wowpedia, most infomation from the old wowwiki(wowwiki now are outdated), due to some drama, the people move to this new wowpedia. read this mostly for the lore/story behind certain things.

and of couse, the official forum, where people post some useful stuff get sticky there(but mostly people post qq, troll, lols, etc junks)

if i were you. I would opt for wow Taiwan. good latency for better gameplay.

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Here's your needs =D

PVE is basically the server where you don't want to get ganked by level 85 douchebags.

Its like PVP except that zones in between Faction controlled territory are not contested territory and won't automatically flag you for PVP.

Its more quest oriented so its much more relaxing (read : boring).

Personally, i suggest every new player to join pvp server. Killing each other is part of the game.

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Added on January 16, 2011, 7:09 pmAbit off topic, hey, which server u played?


This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 16 2011, 07:09 PM

eitrigg on us.

will try the taiwan when my us server time is up;

this is very useful info for newbie like. thanks alot. i'll check all the webs now.

WoW taiwan is boring , trade channel no lulz , etc

WoW US , you have lots of fun especially the trade channel in major cities..OMG , most of the time I'll laugh ..people ask questions like where to buy items with valor points and you've replies like go to stormwind (I'm a horde)

Well , i am not sure about you but I dont recommend buying at one go unless you plan to get WoW TW , with WoW Taiwan , you just buy the top up card and voila u get the entire expansion kit. Yes its way cheaper

If you wanna save money , play WoW classic - you can lvl till lvl 60 and you can umm enjoy some ol' content with 30 days subscription included. However the new cool stuff are in cata , so you may want to go slowly to that path

I agree to a certain extend that wow US or other English equivalent comes with more troll in trade chat. But not everyone like those, so i dont see that as a big differentiator between wowtaiwan and US.

wowtaiwan, actually allow better customization of character naming, as well as guild name, which, u cant do with English. Again, this is not a big differentiator, but i just wanna suggest that it is hard to compare between the two base on trade chat and other trivial matters.

To me, its more about, big questions like, monthly subscription fees, competitiveness, communication issues, and latency.

Obviously communication gonna be an issue if u dunno the language, but if u play in Malaysia, (like me), i would prefer to play in a gaming environment with good latency, more affordable subscription and play package.

Well, i play in US and Taiwan and i certainly enjoy Taiwan more than US, at least i can do cool stuff that Neilyo did with its latency.

But i do miss my day in wow US, where i get to know many Us and international friends, but at least now i get taiwan chicks, its a tradeoff, not a bad deal actually.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 17 2011, 09:20 AM

It boils down to a person much like on how you like. For some people , I like to know people from Aussie and US better , its just great. Some people may prefer to use a prepaid system especially here in Malaysia and in Asia. You can't compare US WoW to say umm Taiwan WoW. I've said and I'll say this again , if you want more fun , I highly recommend you try US WoW , but then if you want to play the game and enjoy the content , then WoW Taiwan is for you

don't jugde taiwan and us server too harshly,
aside from asian and western culture, thinking diffrence

there also the game time factor.
western(us/europ server) calculate by 60day
no matter how much you play, you only stop/topup at the due date.
in wrath, you got bored and run around dalaran doing nothing, then troll the trade chat for the lol.

but asian(tw/china, who still stuck in wrath patch) calculate by minutes(?not really sure)
so for them time is money,
that somewhat make them serious abit
so afking is a big waste for them.

i do agreed tw server get better lantency, due to geographic closer to mal(if its still lag hard, please fire our communication minister please and replease with a foriegn minister for better performance)

taiwan chicks<-- win

imbecile ni cakap banyak la tapi dah lama tak login lol >:D

i think wow china still in wrath of the lich king

but wow taiwan is already cata 4.0.3 lar.
wow taiwan is same version with wow USA one.

in orc tone: "me imbecile, me busy, "

(actually its more of a "OMG ITS A ???ELITE NEAR MY PC!!! DON'T GET CLOSE! MIGHT ENTER AGRRO RANGE!!!!111)

also trying to quit wow (2nd attemp or is it the 3rd attemp ),
so far i still fail,
still go mmo-champ on daily basis,
listen to youtube's azeroth daily,
go official forum read warlock, ptr and other stuff... on a daily basis(can't post anything though).

if i return, i hope to get the rabbit ear thing,
rabbit ear thing is easter bunny event or valentine day event huh?
or return after june 2011.

also i recently interested in the sd gundam capsule fighter online,(but haven't start playing )

Taiwan up to date, china in WOTLK. Taiwan also can opt for monthly fees, Rm52 per month. Meaning, afk is not an issue.

Beside monthly, Taiwan also can opt for time card, RM18. RM18 Softworld 150pts MyCard - 30 hours in game time.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 17 2011, 01:29 PM

There are people who like pvp and people who dont like it.. Dont call people who gank you as douchebags.. They just might have more skill then you in pvp and kill you . Like the post above if you are 'scared' then roll on a pve server where all the carebears play.

Better yet go and play in Role playing server , whereby people take their names and roles seriously...I mean WTH , , cultist crap drop from silitus goes for 1k in AH , thats just pure insane

PvE is okay but RP is pure insane

Wow and thanks, ya maybe i dont need to buy a full set, better start slowly and try 1st..

ppl spoke about LATENCY, if i buy lowerping or battleping, izzit any improvement? or still same?
whats the best product for this LATENCY issue??

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Added on January 17, 2011, 2:20 pmhey im confuse, whats Role Playing is all about?
i know PVE and PVE.. still no clue about RP.
can u explain? thanks

This post has been edited by elasticote: Jan 17 2011, 02:20 PM

In RP servers you have a strict naming policy , you cannot have names like iamwannasomehealz or leetpally or some funny names.

Instead of saying

ZOMG , oom , need help

You'll use Queen's English

Oh Dear ! I am out of mana. Let me grab [sparkling fresh water] and drink it
then type /drink

Trust me , RP is for mindless freaks

Latency ? I know people go like OMG wow taiwan gives me 100ms ping and other balh blah . I can still do with 400ms latency , its just timing and doing predictions in early/before hand

Test out the trial , again its only fun when you have people. If you want , join Darkspear - horde - touchpad heros...find for MY/SG guild , you may wanna join those ang moh guilds but they are just serious !

how come no one warn you?

When you play wow, you have to be ready to abandon life

You can control it tho, but things after things in wow might consume you without you realizing it

People who say this obviously have not been in any role playing server or have any idea what they're talking about. RP servers are full of Scottish Dwarves, Dayum Orcs, STD-ridden Goldshire and Silvermoon and overpriced items. Unless you're in an RP guild, RPing will more likely get you demoralising responses.

Thats what I've seen in RP server. For me I want my Chuck Norris joke and random lulz at Trade channel and WTS Fortune Card for 50g

Yea, it already consumed me whole, spitted me out, and consumed me again
Get away from this game, before it's tooo lateee

Good thing is that I have a failsafe to wean me off the game at times: I get bored easily, especially when it involves repetition. Before I used to do 5-10 heroics a day, complete the daily cap. Now I'm doing 1-2 heroics a day, and sometimes couldn't be bothered to do the dailies.

Sometimes I would do random BGs just to get honor points for pvp mounts, but omg, horde sucks.

...

So, anyone in Thaurissan interested in getting vanilla/tbc/wotlk achievements?
Planning on setting up a group just to get those blings.

This post has been edited by gaeria84: Jan 17 2011, 03:06 PM

basically,

wow US:
- english literate people
- 400ms - 600ms ping
- expensive entry fee (cd keys alone cost RM350 ++)
- enjoy true wow experience, ang moh style?

wow Taiwan:
- mandarin literate people
- 100ms - 250ms ping
- cheap entry fee (no need buy cd keys)
- enjoy the wow game, maybe a bit different wow experience

thats my problem, i dont understand and speak mandarin
i go to their website already make me confuse, yeah i know bout googgle translate, but.... still dont want!
money i think no problem i can find it, but about the LATENCY, can some1 advice me??
that lowerping they sell in offgamers, izzit good? izzit make any diffrent??

Deimos summed it up

If you are into storyline , dont' care about communication and dont care about Chuck Norris jokes , then WoW Taiwan with English client is great.Quests , etc all are in English

lowerping is good , my friend from Thaurissan . SRS raiding guild , latency must be less then 250ms , uses lowerping - it really helps to lower down latency. Since money is not a question , WoW US is the way to go , for your case.

ok just to make sure it makes a diffrent. u realy helpful. thanks alot.
i already make a char at gundrak, and tonight will start upgrading my WOW.
thanks alot everyone.

Actually with 400 ms, u get disadvantage in the game, your dps in raid get lower down due to delay, your pvp get affected due to delay as well.

400 ms in US also means u need to pay additionally for tunneling service, with tunneling service, in taiwan, u get around 50 ms.

In summary, if u want to be competitive, latency is everything.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 17 2011, 04:53 PM

No worries: play on an Oceanic server with the Aussies. They seem to have worse latency than Unifi (since they always think 400ms is a pipe dream)

Still, being par with the aussies doesn't gives u competitive advantage over them, and what about US players who play in Oceanic server, u still get unfair disadvantage in the form of delay and lag.

Just my 2 cents, if u dun mind about the delay, then not an issue at all.


This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 17 2011, 06:15 PM

Actually in my own humble experience with US and Taiwan, i dont see US funner than Taiwan, lets put all the obvious different such as latency aside,

wow is also a social game where u get to know people, form a bond, and achieve in game objective together. I want to get my friends to play with me alot. when i started wow US, i joined my friends, slowly, one by one they stop wow, due to monthly fees commitment, we're all working adult, so, we probably dont have much time to play the game, maybe occasionally online at night to do some dailies etc, also, not to say, when BC goes to WOTLK, alot of my friends stop. Me, my brother, and a few of us remain, we get new friends, but its pretty lonely, i tell u.

The upfront fees is quite hefty for most ppl here. Its practically very hard to get people to join u in wow US.

When someone mentioned about WOW taiwan and its obvious advantage, the one big reason that get me to abandon my wow US acct and 100,000 gold wotlk time, relevel in wowtaiwan, regear, and refarm all the gold is: i can finally play with all my friends now, we get around 30++ old members back to wow.

This is only make possible with wowtaiwan.

Now, im in wowtaiwan, in a guild, mostly of rl friends, also, get alot of new friends from many different channel, but still,

Playing with real life friends is priceless, more fun then anything else.

Im not saying wow US any bad, it just, make more sense to play wowtaiwan for me.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 17 2011, 06:26 PM

Same reason, but completely opposite decision

I assume you can read chinese (if no also nvm)

Well TS said he cant read chinese, same like me.

I've been in a foreign guild even I'm playing in US servers. First was chinese guild... everyone uses those chinese char thingy to chat. Guild chat is pretty boring. I only whisper between friends in the guild. I do get responses if I asked something or chatting something there, its just that most of the time everything they chat or talked is in chinese. sien... I've made my own friends out of guild but between whispers only... I lost to joy a guild chatting abit :< Then now in vietnamese guild. I didn't purposely apply for these guilds, its just that my best friends are in it, they do speak english but they don't own the whole few hundred ppl in the guild. So same situation, mostly chatting in vietnamese, i cannot tumpang their topic at all :< they can speak english btw, Whatever i asked n talked are nicely replied. Its just that they too started all their talks in viet.

This is just guild...

Imagine in taiwan server, the trade channel.. general and lfg... QQ
And how are you gonna make new friends?? I make lots of random friends, to the extend to knowing horde n adding them to bnet recently rofl... all these ppl are keeping me occupied, so does lots more from guild... but i really felt left out when they chatted alot in viet >.<

oh btw, latency is ok lah.. 200-300ms with tunnels is more than i can ever wish for.. even thought i secretly wanna b greedy and wished for 2digit ms xD

if you play in oceanic server.. more than half of the people there are playing same ping with you, no worries, you are not being left behind.

50ms or 100ms is like heaven, i would grin all day just by looking at it but i kept having this imagination, if i were to go taiwan, its like im a lone warrior, i'll probably enjoy pvp only with that ms... I pug alot :> i pug everyday. I like random chats. WOW is fun when socialize if language is a barrier, will it still be fun there?

This post has been edited by alexision: Jan 18 2011, 01:34 AM

im 100% with u. i cant play something that i cant read or speak.
may i know u play what server? im new and looking for malaysian frens to explore things.

ya, i do agree with u. Language barrier is the main problem for those who doesnt know english to play in wowtaiwan, Banana is still fine,but if u dunno chinese at all,it gonna get a bit hard.

Because of that also, we made ourself our own guild, English speaking guild, and we seems to be able to random attract ppl who speak English but outside Malaysia to join us, its not that they dunno chinese, some of them, trying to learn English, while others, like us, is more familiar with English, due to many years playing in WOW US, or main familiar with english online.

My view is, if u know chinese, and wanna try worldofwarcraft, u can definitely give wowtaiwan a try.

Try first and if u dun like it, u can get back to wow US or Oceanic if u want to, the switching cost is close to none.

My 2 cents

While you are free to have your opinions and I really have no preference for either US or Taiwan servers, but this post just doesn't sit well with me. All you've said here is that you quit WoW US because your friends left, then found it more enjoyable in WoW Taiwan because that's where they ended up playing in.

Besides the cheap barrier of entry (which assume the friends you used to play with don't have their old CD keys any more), there is nothing that validates your statement:



By this logic, you could easily juxtapose the servers (your friends all went to WoW US) and you'd be just as happy there.

Sure i will be happy if all of them join me at wow US. True. But, no one (my fren) want to stay in WOW US,

They still have their wow US account, it is just doesn't make sense to upgrade to wotlk or cataclysm and get to play a game with the bad latency (as compare with taiwan) and high commitment fees. (monthly vs possible of game time)

For us, the obvious choice is to play wowtaiwan. We can, because we know the language.

We do the switch when Cataclysm.

Dont take me wrong, i dont denied all the benefit of playing in wow US, Oceanic or etc.

Im just saying, if u got a better option, u go for it.

This post has been edited by hidden830726: Jan 18 2011, 09:51 AM

dont play wow!!! u will get suck into azeroth forever.pm me in barthilas if u wanna join.ingame nick - dewaperang

i like how nobody bother to search for info rather then just opening a new thread.

new thread is good mar. fresh and smells nice.
some people see old thread maybe malas nak read also.

then might as well not play wow its nearly 6 years old game, better they go play a young and fresh game that smells better

^this

also when you start a fresh new game, its hard to catch what on earth are we saying,
our language is wow-nglish - english, not simple english or singlish or even engrish / mal-rojak-lish.

perhaps they just ask to make sure/ comfirm what they got is the correct infomation.
most of the time newbie miss some info to make their game play better experiance.
like there a platform you HAVE to jump in WC or BFD instance
(i fail in my 1st WC run, fell off 3 times in a roll, they didn't told me. i though they were bored and do the jump jump jump thing. )

ya. im wating for SWTOR. But too bad the thread in LYN not active at all, seems no body interested.

And Mod delete my new post on SWTOR, asking me to use the old thread, the old thread dead, im not a healer, i cant revive it.

I'm playing in frostmourne But I know no active malaysians in it. But 100% there is alot here.

But if you really want to play, choose a server where you can have friends beforehand. Helps a lot. Try asking if any guild with large malaysian players for a casual spot for you. (If you happen to be in one friendly one which is open to invite anyone, offer him! )

I can get you a guild invite if you wanna come, but prepared to be bored as you'll probably chat with me only unless you could make more new friends asap

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To hidden830726, I'm just telling something I've been through only, not wanting to offend you or anything ya you have your point and I agree on it.
I'll 100% move to taiwan server if my friends move there too I can even make it 9000% confirm on yes to switching!
A couple times I've quit wow because friend quit too due to too busy with study or work. But I came back because they come back too! Well they didn't plan on coming back, I just poison them on cata content and they decided to come back.

This post has been edited by alexision: Jan 18 2011, 06:56 PM

Good point. Cheers