Can someone tell me how much a teacher basic pay? and their benefits?
and going to gov school?or private? or tuition? which place to teach will be preferable?
and what's the requirement to be a teacher? if i'm a degree holder will the pay be any different? I sincerely need some advice and suggestions here.

This post has been edited by CruelKiss: Jan 15 2011, 11:51 PM

i assume u've got a degree and is looknig to go into teaching..rite?..

well, the thing is this, even with a degree, u still needa go for teacher's training in one of the maktab...

the pay's good..around Rm2.7 with incentive and allowance..that is for government la..

for private like in private school or tuition, i tink any degree would do.

are u comparing with Dip or Master? for gov,u must have Education background,esp since the gov trained their own at UPSI at other teaching colleges.
without it,or without teaching xp, kinda hard to get..

for private,even harder. coz the pay is higher,and the quality/expectation is higher too..since most of them caters to international or elite students.i recall seeing if u want to teach IT,u must have IT background, for Maths, preferable if u have Maths-related degree. but others just mention prefer education-related degree..some even request for Master.

and if i'm not mistaken,for degree,u can teach secondary students. for diploma,only for primary..dunno if that has changed..

u must know la whether u really like to teach or not..the environment at public school differs with private n tuition.
if u really can manage 30-40 students in a class, creative and patient-->wont have problem with schools
like me,i can't handle it.but love teaching. so i go for tuition. (pls dont ask how much i get, u can search around to know the rate )

This post has been edited by kasha: Jan 16 2011, 11:11 AM

private tuition can earn a lot.. my ex tuition teacher during my high school time, managed to bought a harier at age of 25 and a condo in singapore at 28

he rent a house to operate to teach tuition.. each class have about 20-25 people and he charge rm80 per person..he taught add maths, modern maths, bio and spm for form 4 and 5 as well as science and maths for form 1,2 and 3.. most of the papers he taught got 2 different class..not to mention small group of 3 people where he charge rm400 per person $$$

yeap..and private tuition is low on the qualification required. but the money that can be earned after ur reputation is established is reli hard to imagine..

if u a degree holder n interested to become a teacher, then u just opt for KPLI (kursus perguruan lepasan ijazah)..
i think around 6 month only.. then can be full pledge teacher dy..

last time while waiting for a job, my cousin become a substitute teacher for secondary school(no need to go KPLI), she earn around 2500++(i forgot actual salary) dunno got any other benefit or not.. she told me she earn more as a teacher than her current job.. she quit teacher because she dont like teaching..

agreed.. my friend's mother practically have to book a seat for her daughter for accounts tuition 6 months before she begin her form 4 prinsip perakaunan

yeap..that's the course i was talking about... the KPLI..i tink u needa do it in a maktab rite?..

I just browsed through the KPLI website.. malay words makes me dizzy now after 6 yrs of college and uni life, my BM getting sux..! I think they've closed the application.. and need to undergo this temu duga = interview? and they pilih calon.. KPLI



This post has been edited by CruelKiss: Jan 16 2011, 11:52 PM

dun worry..u just send in ur application..this kinda thingu never know...many times they make the applicaiton seems complicated and stuff..but the process usually isn't that bad at all...

I'm not sure whether I like to teach or not.. it's a fresh thing to me as well.. but I feel like giving it a try..never try never know ba!
After think back what you've advised it's true also! and teacher in school they need to join kurrikulum too..
Would you mind to name me few famous tuition centres in PJ or KL area?( I'm from East Malaysia)
I seldom find tuition centre posting vacancy in the internet.. how you apply for the tuition centre? I did try to apply for the home tutor through online.. like through one agency website you post up all the subject you prefer to teach.. but no feedback!

go look for Kasturi tuition centre.. my ex-tuition teacher taught there.. paid rm1.50 per minute every week he teach 6 classes of 1.5 hours...

wow, this is a really good pay! how come you know ur ex-tuition teacher pay one? hahaha... must be very good fren with him! i just walk-in to ask for vacancy, is that appropriate? Do they actually bother about at what grade you have in your degree cert?

yeah, he told me btw, i don't know what's the qualification required.

according to KPLI webpage, now they proccesing the january intake(application on last oct 2010)..
have to wait next intake application

this is what i found on the web.u might contact them for more info
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dear TS,

if u want try and error, pls go for tuition. coz KPLI is like University application--it's not open all the time. and if ur Malay is not so good, I doubt you'll pass the interview.. beside, u'll be bonded as a teacher.

for tuition-i'm a personal home tutor. I advertised myself. I use to work with tuition centre, but most cases, i deal direct with parents..and in some cases,i got it thru agents (need to pay commission). they're many tuition centre looking for tutors, and agents looking for tutor during Oct-Feb. but,if u think u want to move to West Malaysia after u secured a job,i think it will be hard la..

u see, tuition is not like other jobs. usually they need immidiately, and there is no black and white confirming u'll get the job. if u want to be a tutor in Klang Valley, best if u shift here and look for jobs

this is for very experienced tutor. Kasturi is also an established centre, so usually they'll hire experienced tutor.

roughly here is the rate:
UPSR: rm20-30
PMR: RM30-40
SPM: rm35-60

the rate may be even lower ( i saw ppl advertise for rm10) or higher depending on ur experience/area/subject..
if u r not experience at all,u'll find it harder to get a job thru website.

icic.. the why don't TS go try give private tuition..secure soem students through some agent.. it's quite good pay.. my friend with only a year experience managed to secure pay of rm50 per hour

btw, if ts have taken private tuition before, then it would be easier as he would understand the needs and wants of the student.. tuition teacher really depends on the satisfaction of the students in order to spread their name and be able to command a higher premium

Private tuition u mean like home tutor? or going to private tuition center? hmm i'm dont have any experienced in private tuition neither home tutor.. I have no working experience except that after i quit this job then I'll have a less than 1 yr working experience
ya.. they need to maintain their passing rate! just like me always expect something from my tuition teacher when I was a student.

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Added on January 18, 2011, 4:45 pmCome to think of it, besides BM, teacher also need to participate in kurrikulum..! and I doubt myself too in speaking BM during interview, now I have problem talking to malay people wat if I talk to the government ppl interviewer! I dont dare to imagine the scenario! what if i don't take the KPLI and become a substitute teacher?
I'm now working in PJ area.
Where did you get all the teaching materials? do you like help your student to spot questions too?

This post has been edited by CruelKiss: Jan 18 2011, 04:45 PM

I'm an IT grad. after worked 3 years in IT, i switched to education. I joined Kumon as an Instructor for both Maths & English.
From there i self-learn a lot.I studied school syllabus as well, eventhough I'm teaching following Kumon methods. How to teach? Basically from school i use to teach my frens or be a mentor for Maths. Then i started taking few students for home tuition. After 2 years, I quit my job and now fulltime tutor.

my advice,if u really want to be in education line, join any Enrichment centre i.e. Kumon, Smart Reader etc... be it part or fulltime.
coz they usually provide training on how to guide/teach students. coz usually tuition centre dont really have time to guide you. from there,u can develop the skills. also to test whether u really love this line and have patience for it

Do Kumon strict in choosing candidates? I've tried to apply before this. they don't seem to be interested in me so I tot probably because I don't have education cert they dont accept me and my "no working experience" resume they have lotsa branches and the jobstreet have lotsa they branch vacancy! dont dare to try my luck again

I'm currently working as a part timer at kumon. To be frankly, everyday i need to drag myself out of my house to kumon. The environment in kumon is filled with tension.

And i didnt go for any interview. I think when they need people fast, they don't mind taking students.

This post has been edited by ItsMyUsername: Apr 8 2011, 11:05 PM

For private tutors how do they get the marking scheme of gov exam? Is those marking scheme considered P&C? If yes, how does those private tutor get them?

Its pretty easy to get marking schemes. Most teachers who have marked the papers before have it. For me I have a relative who is teaching BM, she gets her friends to pass me all the marking schemes few months before SPM.

yo! my ex teacher (pencen already) open a class at her house, each sub cost 150 per month per student. each class consist of about 30 - 40 student. she teaches 2 sub - Bahasa Malaysia and History for SPM students (form 4 & form 5). imagine if she got 120 student (about 4 class a week?)
300 x 120 = 36000 with just 4 class week maybe at most 4 hours per day (2 hours history, 2 hours Bahasa). Tell me if this is not enough for you.
Another story, my friend (parent rich people) go to private tutor who teach accounts, physics and chemistry . i dont know how many time per week but it cost about 2000 per student. each class only max of 5 student. imagine that. so being a teacher does pay well.
another story - i heard that these days, if u work as a gov teacher, u cant do tution. i dont know the details. just heard only.
Good luck!

Try going for gov school first. Understand the syllable especially for upsr pmr and spm. The pay as an teacher in gov school may sux but the side income from tuition is so so so good. Some even earn 10-20x their basic salary from school. Parents will beg u to admit their son or daughter and pay a lot of money if you can spot pmr or spm questions

Isn't it the marking scheme will change once in several years?

If you work as a gov teacher you can do tuition if you apply for it. however, you can only teach a limited number of students per class.

Hmmm. Talking about marking schemes, I just saw sasbadi had these past yr papers with the answers inside. Not sure whether its the original marking scheme or the marking scheme by sasbadi. Everything will change including the syllabus so what is your point?

If you work as a gov teacher, you are not legally entitled to do tuition. HOWEVER, since many teachers do it and it would be kind of stupid to do a crackdown on tuitions, not many are actually penalised.

My point is how private tutor can obtain the marking scheme without the connection with government? if the have to rely on friends that mark government exams, how can they get the marking scheme if they don't have such friends? Any suggestion?


Are you sure? My tuition teacher told me that she had to apply for some sort of licence to teach as she is from the government. Of course, that's was what is going on a couple of years ago. Perhaps the government did ammend the law again.