Jan 13 2011, 11:42 PM
QUOTE(yapte @ Jan 13 2011, 02:04 AM)
It is alright, nothing to be sorry about! Yuheng.
Okay let me explain this way.
First, listen to your MP3 player directly. Then connect to your amplifier. A good(low noise) neutral amplifier should sound same as your source but much bigger and deeper soundstage when set at higher volume.
Now the critical part is, can the headphones shows you that kind of larger sound. Because a "bad" headphones will show colouration(vibaration) or fraction(diaphram) in sound if feed by a more powerful amplifier, especially at high volume.
If the headphones sounds like a "grand version" of your source. It means both of your amplifier and headphones are neutral and faithful to your source(my HI2050 and E9 sound this way).
At this point, You can "see clearer" at the sound now. Because the sound not only larger but closer. Then you will realize the music treated by Shuffle is bit artificial. This kind of artificial sound is only created by player but not from your amplifier or headphones. It will become more noticeable if you play it through a more revealling system.
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:13 am
Sorry! Bro, I do not dare to open the headphones! LOL! Probably can show you the photo from the website later.
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:48 am
It just my personal preference, I like my music sounds a bit more bass.
Degrades the sound? Not really.
The most difficult part is, you have to fix a proper volume for IPOD Shuffle and FIIO E9.
In this case, E5 is not only a "Bass Booster". More properly, it is a "pre-amplifier" because I use E5 to control the volume, not E9. E9 only serves as a "power amplifier".
Strange? Not so strange if you know about the gain and distortion principle of an amplifier.
Increase the volume will get more gain but also generate more distortion at the same time.
So the key is to find the right balance between gain and distortion for the components
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:55 am
Yes. The impression is based on my existing FIIO E9 setup.
hi there, hope you can help me on explaining my questions, still very new in audiophile world, willing to learn more from all shifu.Okay let me explain this way.
First, listen to your MP3 player directly. Then connect to your amplifier. A good(low noise) neutral amplifier should sound same as your source but much bigger and deeper soundstage when set at higher volume.
Now the critical part is, can the headphones shows you that kind of larger sound. Because a "bad" headphones will show colouration(vibaration) or fraction(diaphram) in sound if feed by a more powerful amplifier, especially at high volume.
If the headphones sounds like a "grand version" of your source. It means both of your amplifier and headphones are neutral and faithful to your source(my HI2050 and E9 sound this way).
At this point, You can "see clearer" at the sound now. Because the sound not only larger but closer. Then you will realize the music treated by Shuffle is bit artificial. This kind of artificial sound is only created by player but not from your amplifier or headphones. It will become more noticeable if you play it through a more revealling system.
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:13 am
Sorry! Bro, I do not dare to open the headphones! LOL! Probably can show you the photo from the website later.
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:48 am
It just my personal preference, I like my music sounds a bit more bass.
Degrades the sound? Not really.
The most difficult part is, you have to fix a proper volume for IPOD Shuffle and FIIO E9.
In this case, E5 is not only a "Bass Booster". More properly, it is a "pre-amplifier" because I use E5 to control the volume, not E9. E9 only serves as a "power amplifier".
Strange? Not so strange if you know about the gain and distortion principle of an amplifier.
Increase the volume will get more gain but also generate more distortion at the same time.
So the key is to find the right balance between gain and distortion for the components
Added on January 13, 2011, 2:55 am
Yes. The impression is based on my existing FIIO E9 setup.
im confusing here, a good neutral set up able to boost up/increase the staging as you explained, would you mind to explain more on the set up pairing with the headphone you reviewed?
good example as what type of neutral amp you using, as you explained using neutral amp, which are E5 and E7 you using now, do it really consideras neutral? as we know that with the E5 added in, you explained "the bass is sufficient/tolerable" (sorry i kinda forgot this part) with bass boosted, but shouldnt neutral be the balance of all range frequencies? with higher volume in neutral amp able to increase the staging, is it consider neutral? or coloration?
i did try with E5, E7 and E9 before, they are great amplifier indeed, but can them consider as neutral amp?
neutral, uncolor can be good with alot of set up, but you must able to love them, is it uncolor? without effect on amp pairing? or the dynamic is the increasing part that we might missed out?
As explained by you, you did mentioned that the artificial of music is mainly comes from player, not amplifier or headphone with the set up you using now.
lets take an example, what if i use an expensive player that cost sky bomb of price, connect through out a sounded digital headphone, is it consider my player will be my bad source in the chain? what can i do to improve it? better amp? headphone?
just my humble opinion, im still very new on audiophile, hope i dont sounded harsh and sorry for my bad english
This post has been edited by windboy: Jan 14 2011, 12:25 AM
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