This is somewhat of a lie. I know so because i know the dirty little secrets in Codemasters here. It is an incompent company with one of the worst managment ever. They proclaim that they are looking for people with talent but in true nature they don't give a shit. Its not because they don't want to hire talented individuals, its because talented individuals don't want to work for them (there is a reason). I have heard one too mnay things coming out from that studios and most are just pure BS. If they ever had a chance to produce a good game, they will ussually end up short. Our Codemasters here only knows how to make racing games, and they should just do that and only that.

Say what you will about my rant. If you have time, take a walk into their developent department, you will have a fine understanding of what i mean.

aiyoh, all racing games, looks like i guess right.

You already stated they don't produce games la. I just saying a part of the fact is that i claimed they did racing games more. And you just said they helped with asset from those racing games. Its about half truth. No argues there. But what i hear about Codemaster in KL is that it has some major problems, not only with management, but also in terms of "AHEM". Not sure when you know Codemasters or are you new there, but they have something in they want to keep secret.

Its already a close and shut case. But if you want to continue i can also. "Don't blame me if i start saying what comes to mind, its over, done"

But generaly, yeah, we don't have any chance in competing with any overseas studiuos when it comes to making games. Hell, even china beat us already. Grats to cheap ass studios who pay slave labour. Even a shop assisant also earn RM500 only less then a specialist in that feild.

Why do we fail in this? Because we have dumb ass bosses who go out and offer low rates to get business because they beleive it can be done. When the budget blow, they blame the staff (this is not Codemasters, other companies).

This post has been edited by meetxj9: Mar 18 2011, 03:31 PM

Its something i cannot say, but anyone who have worked for Codemasters for the past 2 years or so, will know what im getting at. The initail arguement i was getting at was there was no company in Malaysia that have the capability of actually making a full fledge game that will get praises. Maybe some FB games, or gambling games maybe. But never a AA title. The problem we face, is that we have texture artist and modelers by the hundreds, but not enough good animators. Modelers and animators are not the same people .2 different roles. Those who actually had the talent to make it are in singapore or overseas already, not willing to come back because of the ridiculous low pay.

The job is hard and satisfying, but if companies are not willing to accept the fact that its specialize profession, something that deserves way more then a pea size pay of RM2000 (Beginner), then whats the point? You guys will earn triple that amount or more outside. I quit production houses once i matured out of my naive state, that even a shop assistant with commision can earn RM2400 a month. A total embarassment to the creative field. And thats why the companies will never retain good talent. If they do, then i say the guy doesn't know the golden nugget is just a phone call away.

In short, we got independent talent, you will only earn 1/3 of what your suppose to get, you might aswell keep your college funds to yourself~

Now before one guy say, "You don't deserve more because you are new" excuse. Here is what is happening, if you are willing to earn such a low pay, and still be happy with it, then its fine. But remmeber, even a noob in that industry, earns way more then a veteran here if your employed in AUS or Canada or etc. You are not suppose to be getting "monkey job" pay.

This post has been edited by meetxj9: Mar 18 2011, 06:07 PM

Exactly The illusion we have here is that many believe that they are getting what they deserve, but in reality, your earning is no better then a braindead employee working at a perfume counter. Welcome to real world!!

This post has been edited by meetxj9: Mar 18 2011, 07:06 PM

True, but here is icing on the cake. I manage to get a nice glimpse of figures and a few overheard conversations about our so called outsource profits. It would seem the cost to produce a project here, is 65%-70% of the original cost. So im pretty much geussing , if you actually have a chance to work on something good, but your pay is bad, you might wanna look at your CEO and how deep his pockets have gotten. Its not because he can't pay you more, its because why would he pay you more?

I moved on to another job line in the advertising industry. Its a pretty okay job, and they have a solid ladder for you to climb if you actually do good. Will never go back to working for Production houses unless they don't mind to outsource to me as a freelancer. But still im improving on what i learn to make sure i don't fall behind.