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Christopher7
post Jan 16 2011, 05:02 AM

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Hi all,
I plan to learn Keyboard soon
Some discourage me from learning Keyboard but Piano instead
GoD.. of course i know Piano sounds better
But due to many factors that I only be allowed to learn keyboard

There are few things that I wanted to know
1) Is it necessary to get a tutor?
2) Should/Must learn TauGe? ( previous I learn guitar by myself so i dont bother much about that ;P)
3) What actually different in Grade?

Thanks.
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post Jan 16 2011, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 16 2011, 09:20 AM)
1)no if you are playing casually or playing for fun. Normally one learn keyboard to play chords and synchronize themselves in a band or vocal/choir team. unless they are playing keyboard like piano, instead of chords they play songs.
2)Not necessary if you are playing for fun. I knew alot of keyboardist played by ears thus its not necessary although I will recommend you to grasp an understanding about it. also, if you planned to play keyboard like piano, you will find notes(tauge) reading to be useful.
3)the higher a grade is, the harder one can pass that grade. people go to exam to examine themselves and see which levels they are.

conclusion, if you want to play songs, its better for you to look for a teacher and learn the notes. If you just want to play chords and assist a band/vocals/choir.... you can learn yourself from various source such as youtube/music books etc. oO there are also teachers that specialize in keyboard only.
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Hmm what is mean by Playing Keyboard like Piano, Instead of chords they play songs?
I thought both Keyboard and Piano can play Songs?
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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jan 16 2011, 09:29 AM)
those who discouraged u from electronic keyboard are not doing it becoz of the sound, they are saying it becoz of the control and expression that are lacking in most keyboards

1) up to yourself, u can learn karate from books and youtube, but would u?

2) up to yourself again, u can learn to act in a shakespeare play without learning how to read, but would you?

3) its like belt in karate, u start off with white, then yellow, then all the way to black. a black belt can generally kill a white belt with KI alone. in piano u go from grade 1 to grade 8...
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thx smile.gif
In this case I think i shall learn tauge if I really into it.
So for Grade it is just to test ourself which levels we are at?


QUOTE(leo_gaga @ Jan 16 2011, 04:19 PM)
For me, I learnt organ.

If you have tutor, probably will let you know how to follow beats, set rhythm, and pedal control. biggrin.gif
and remember, learn theory. biggrin.gif so that you wont suffer urself on reading note when play the songs.
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Yeah.. now i can see the functions of tutor =x

Btw, do you guys know is there any Musical School in Setapak?
and How much should I spend for the Keyboard?
Because my budget is only about RM350+/-

Thanks guys.

This post has been edited by Christopher7: Jan 16 2011, 05:05 PM
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post Jan 16 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jan 16 2011, 07:12 PM)
ermmmm.... i am afraid u need to spend much more than RM 350 for a keyboard. its is way way way too low of a budget
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In this case i gonna give up on my MBP cry.gif
How much do you think will be needed?

http://pianoforall.com/

Is this useful?
If i've to raise my budget for Keyboard i might as well need to pull out the fees for attending class sad.gif

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post Jan 16 2011, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jan 16 2011, 09:21 PM)
pianoforall, duno about it, cant comment. what kinda music do you wana play?
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hmm.. I plan to play some Pop songs and Songs like Spanish Romance.
Normally how much should I spend for the Keyboard?
Cheap and good1 tongue.gif
Roughly RM700
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post Jan 16 2011, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 16 2011, 10:56 PM)
my 2 cents.
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Now only I understand the main function of Keyboard blink.gif
What do you think about the Schools there?
Normally they learn at Musical School can get certificate?
In this case i think i could only afford max of RM800 keyboard
But I wonder why some sellers are selling those keyboard ranging from RM300 - RMxxxx
What is the main different between those?
What keyboard do you think that is recommended for a beginner to start off?

Lastly, Is it advisable to get second hand keyboard?

Sorry for so many questions tongue.gif
and Thanks for your reply smile.gif
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post Jan 16 2011, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Karenalvin @ Jan 16 2011, 11:15 PM)
cheaper keyboard do not have touch response, meaning that u cannot control the volume.

as to why sellers sell those is so as to cater to the demand. there are some who just wana hit some notes and will be happy, there are others who seek to put more emotion in their playing. different target audience different budget.

how serious are u in learning? if u are dead serious and even going for classes then there is really no point to get a toy instrument. it will only be a waste of your school fees if you dun have a proper instrument to play on.

secondhands are fine.

before anything else i guess u better spend some time to discover for yourself what you want in your music education and the amount effort you like to put it becoz a good keyboard is not cheap.....
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I see. I would put as much effort as possible if i am into it.
I think so far I could only raise a maximum budget of RM1.3k sad.gif
If still it wasn't enough I think the alternative would be getting a second hand unit wink.gif


Added on January 16, 2011, 11:35 pm
QUOTE(liez @ Jan 17 2011, 12:27 AM)
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Okay~ thanks bro =)
I think I will check out yamaha soon!

btw, I downloaded some guide from Pianoforall.com
Donno if its useful or not.

Do you mind take a glance at it?


Added on January 16, 2011, 11:42 pmDGX505 this Keyboard looks great.
When buying keyboard, must i get 88 keys? ( long term )

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post Jan 16 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 17 2011, 12:51 AM)
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well...looks not bad at all.. you can try it...My first glance (at the books name sweat.gif ) is taht they gave you introduction to many types of genre a keyboardist should have. well... if RM120+ is not too expensive for you, maybe you can try them.

if you want to play sentimental songs, 88 keys is a must as it opened more options for you to swing/flash your improvisation.

DGX505 sounds not bad....


it says it was designed for piano levels. and it can change the sensitivity from light to heavy....its not too abd for a keyboard but Amazon is selling for about US$540 equivalent of our RM1620+  but overall i will say its not bad, quite good in fact. I opined based on how I look at the video demonstration, so it will be good if you can test out the keyboard yourself.  smile.gif
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i actually spent about few hours "downloaded" it sweat.gif
Yeah... I think i might be getting it if i could get more $$ during CNY
or i will need to find a secondhand unit doh.gif

thx!!


Added on January 16, 2011, 11:57 pmThe " performance assist " =.="

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post Jan 17 2011, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(liez @ Jan 17 2011, 01:05 AM)
well, good luck and hope you get a really good keyboard and have fun playing the keyboard, coz it really does thumbup.gif
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Thankss!! I hope to get one soon!
Having final exams but Keyboard distracted me~~
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post Jan 17 2011, 02:19 AM

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I believe you might be able to get some ideas by Googling
"Electronic keyboard humming sound"
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post Jan 17 2011, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE

just helping you, I saw someone selling on the forum...maybe you can try to inquire/nego with him.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1693522&hl=piano


I wonder how much is the current market price blink.gif
I think i will check out Yamaha tomorrow.

thx bro wink.gif
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post Feb 19 2011, 03:01 AM

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I originally budget was 300 for keyboard,
But as more opinion i got from the people
I realize that if really serious into it,
should get a better1.

I finally bought a Digital Piano costs RM3600 at 10% discount.


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post Feb 20 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(liez @ Feb 19 2011, 09:13 AM)
oh my God.... rclxub.gif from RM300 to 700 to 1100 to 1800 and now 3600. Respect!  notworthy.gif
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lol.. I sacrificed my macbook pro cry.gif

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