QUOTE(torino @ Apr 19 2012, 11:16 AM)
ya..i did checked it twice...its enabled and auto...but still the monitor reads the frequency as 3.50Ghz..its just happen after i make a OC test on it... 
CPU-Z?Sandy Bridge Overclocking V1, 2500K/2600K/2700K | LGA1155 P67.Z68.Z77
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Apr 19 2012, 11:35 AM
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May 6 2012, 02:08 PM
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Core temp is not the same as CPU temp.
Asus like other brands of mobos usually will report CPU temp. Core temp is more important here. |
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May 6 2012, 07:17 PM
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Sounds abnormal. By rights the BIOS wont down multi to 49x automatically for you if failed OC. Try updating BIOS, uninstall MSI OC Utility or put the CPU on other mobo and see how.
It's an ES maybe a rejected chip & capped at 49x LOL. I also saw someone selling 2600 but unlockable like 2600K. |
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May 7 2012, 07:42 AM
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QUOTE(lengchai86 @ May 7 2012, 02:26 AM) update : didn't try using fatal1ty board as oredy success boot to windows with higher multi (52) Good to hear that you have found the culprit. I wouldnt change anything that i dont know.enable Cstate setting> no limit what is the max safe Vcore. just wanna try how high this 2700K ES chip can go with safe voltage. end up with setup in WC casing very lazy to change the waterblock at first but when i saw the temp i was like pretty low (40'C) compare to previous air cool (61'C) Safe vcore? I think i'm the wrong person to answer this question lol. Dont go over 1.55v. Let it stay below 1.5v if possible. Stop stressing it at 1.52v on air cooling/ regular wc & try to keep temps below 80C to prevent degradation. |
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May 26 2012, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 26 2012, 01:10 PM) Just a quick Intel noob question since I just couldn't find anything related to what I want to know. non-K like 2400 has limited unlocked multi, with unlocked mem OCCan a locked SB use faster memory divider? For example i5-2400, can it be run at faster memory speed, or is the memory divider also locked? I know running faster memory speed barely does anything to improve performance, just asking though. ![]() http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...00-2300_11.html |
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May 27 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(zeipher @ May 27 2012, 09:21 AM) Hi Sifus, The vdrop (vcore increased while on load) is indeed caused by LLC.Am facing a weird scenario here. OC-ed my proc to 4.0GHz with vcore of 1.150V. While running prime95 for awhile, everything looks good and temp max at 60c. But after that, I saw a big increase of temp until 85c and vcore at 1.360V. Kinda worried on the sudden increase of vcore and temp. Is this cause by the CPU LLC? I have the CPU LLC on level 2. Or any other possible cause? Below is my specs: i5 2500K @ 4.0GHz at 1.150V Asrock z77 Extreme4 Seasonic S12MII 620W 2x4GB Corsair Vengeance 1333 RAM Higher LLC level is degradation level Lower is safer & suitable for 24/7 operation I'm not sure how ASRock LLC works but you use the LLC level 1 and vcore 1.36v then start start lowering the vcore notch by notch until a stable vcore is determined. Stress test like prime95 does generate a lot of heat so a good cooler is recommended to prevent overheat issue. This post has been edited by owikh84: May 27 2012, 10:42 AM |
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May 27 2012, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(zeipher @ May 27 2012, 12:02 PM) From what I read, Asrock's LLC works the opposite way from the other mobo makers where level 5 nets you the least voltage compensation and level 1 the most. So, you're suggesting to lower down the LLC (Asrock's case, up the level)? Oh, forgot to mention that my temp and voltage only shoots up after the 7th hour of priming. That's why I feel it's a bit weird since for the 1st 7 hours, there is no voltage increase. LLC level which will give you lower vcore (vdroop) at load.As for my cooler, I have 212 Evo with push pull fans. By rights as early as 20s you should see the core temp shoot up to its max (in your case 80c). Be sure to use the latest prime95 + win7 SP1 and monitor the CPU usage thru task manager, should be full 100% load on all cores. And next time pls post screenshot of the test to give some hints and info of your claim so that we could discuss further. Good luck |
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Jun 10 2012, 01:41 PM
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Jun 24 2012, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 08:33 PM) I'm very very new to water cooling. I don't OC in the past, and since I recently got hook up to WC I tell myself why not try how far I can go. Purpose : Other than benchmarking / showing off, I do 3D rendering a lot (Interior Designer here) Ok, cut the crap short. My water cooling setup is as below RASA 750 RX240X KIT | EX240 RADIATOR SCYTHE GENTLE TYPHOON x 4 | XSPC TUBING ENZOTECH COMPRESSION FITTINGS | RAYSTORM CPU & GPU WATERBLOCK Loop design : In my room I have air-con set to 21c - 24c Result, which I think it's the max I can go. 1.46v @ 4.8ghz (passed 1 hour Prime95 small FFT. Will do a 24 hour test after getting advice here. Photos : Okay, so here's the problem. 1.) I think I either got a bad chip or something is wrong with my loop. My CPU idle @ around 37-40 (PLEASE CONSIDER MY AMBIENT TEMP) When it's full load on 4.8ghz @ 1.46v it goes up to 70c - 80c Can anyone of you help me identify the problem? Or that's the max I can go with the radiator I'm having now. (I'm still new so I tell myself to upgrade slowly in the future) Another question is, why do core #0 get so much lower temp than the other 3, around 10c lower if you notice in the picture provided. I will appreciate your input here! Full specs on my sig! Pls resit the CPU wb & check whether your loop is fully out of bubbles alright as per PM conversation it is known that you initialized the realtemp late so the load temps look quite normal. nothing wrong with the core0 vs others as I believe all of us getting the same reading. Reducing CPU PLL to 1.5-1.75v would decrease the temp abit get another set of fans for push pull setup. add some rads or upgrade to triple/quad rad. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 24 2012, 10:38 PM |
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Jun 24 2012, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 10:42 PM) Hmm, so regarding the idle temp it's pretty normal for my WC setup? don't know how's the airflow of your casing but i believe you should get as low as 30-35C under that ambient temp.Only fan? I have both typhoon pushing air out. Using 1,48 to achieve 4.8 consider a bad chip or not? Sigh, I've seen people getting to 4.8 with much lower voltage in OCN. that's an average chip i got like 9 out of 10 of CPU like this my golden 2600K chip could do 5.0 @ 1.42v on load. you're actually running at degradation zone better find a suitable clock stable as low as 1.4v & load temp less than 80C to prevent degradation. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 24 2012, 10:57 PM |
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Jun 25 2012, 06:57 AM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 24 2012, 11:10 PM) I'm actually pretty new to this OCing and WCing thing. The golden 2600K was sold to a forumer long2 time ago.I think you can see my loop design from the picture above, airflow I think should be ok-good. Since cable are well managed by Cyntrix, exhaust fan at the back of casing (stock from CM Storm Trooper) Both rad using push style. I'm thinking of upgrading to 360 or 480 as you suggested, but did some google and 480 require modding of the case and I don't think I'm capable of doing it. Took a peek from the top and I see there's a little bit space left to put fan for push-pull. Anyway your 2600k still available? wc is seriously poisonous you will not stop upgrading. just don't expect too much on a kit that's worth below RM1k. Get a quad rad & mount it at the rear of casing. |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 08:29 AM) Haiya Daily usage you wont hit 78C actually this core temp only apply to stress test like LinX and Prime. I would stay with 1.4v on load just because SB will degrade very fast. Anyway, I lowered my core speed to 4.7ghz with 1.43v getting temp MAX 78 after 40min of prime small fft. Should I stick to this or lower more for 24/7 usage? It's still an improvement over the high voltage and >80 temp previously @ 4.8 |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 09:40 AM) <1.4 Can only hit 4.6ghz agreed on the luck part you must be the luckiest guy to get the golden chip from retail in which i am not that's why i am willing to fork out RM2.3k to buy the golden 2600K from a UK guy. Kinda disappointing as this is my first WC rig and didn't even hit good result. Probably a bad chip I guess, the chip is very power hungry. Anything below 1.3 won't even load pass bios. And dont be so upset about the performance of your wc as it is still better and look sexier than the air cooler. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 25 2012, 09:53 AM |
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Jun 25 2012, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 09:51 AM) Now trying 1.37 @ 4.6ghz, temp stays around 65. If everything is stable might as well just stick with it and wish for better luck of winning the lottery of golden chips in the future. The relationship between vcore vs speed is more like exponential rather than a linear proportion. Same like other platforms & DRAM clock vs vdimm.It's pretty crazy this chip need additional of 0.6v to move 100mhz more. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jun 25 2012, 09:59 AM |
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Jun 25 2012, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(Qavs @ Jun 25 2012, 10:14 AM) Yeah, I guess that's the case. Everbody including me is still learning Anyway, does a SB degrade over high voltage or high temp? Or both? and how much improvement will I see if I upgrade my pump to MCP-355 from rx240kit stock pump? Looking forward to learn a lot from you man, initially just wanted to get a rig from Cyntrix, let him OC for me to the max and learn how to maintain the WC system just for the sake of look. After getting the rig not more than 1 day already gatal to play around with OCing and benchmarking. Well I guess I'm more to a 'learn how to fish' than a 'give me a bucket of fish' Degradation happen when high vcore applied and sky high temp, especially when stressed. MCP355 is a stronger pump having higher head pressure so expect it to move more coolant at faster way and improve your overall loop performance. |
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Jul 9 2012, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(zain_azmira94 @ Jul 9 2012, 08:48 PM) Then you should let us know what's your PC specs.ohh there are some OC guides in the post #1 so you should go through it. This post has been edited by owikh84: Jul 9 2012, 10:38 PM |
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Jul 10 2012, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Jul 10 2012, 11:46 AM) im using almost the same spec as him, but my PSU is gigabyte powerock 500w, now im using 4.0ghz, but my vcore still set it as auto. Good for you. Apparently vcore is really depends on the chip. Every CPU has different VID, hence different vcore. It's up to user to try and error the vcore until you found the lowest one stable for that particular clock. I have seen a good chip could do 4.5 with just 1.2v on load. Set it manually instead of auto as you might find a lower vcore than auto set. Thus can shave off some heat. |
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QUOTE(hackcremo @ Aug 7 2012, 06:17 AM) Guys...i need help here...my 2700k need high vcore in order to make it stable when prime...i bought 2700k because thought it are the binned 2600k which can overclock pretty well.. Looks like you got a dud chip. Increase vcore to 1.4v if cooling still allowed. currently i had run 12hour prime @4.5ghz/1.34vcore in BIOS.. when i try to oc 4.6ghz/1.36vcore it BSOD... can any sifu guide me to overclock this chip.. Test then slowly down to 1.39v, 1.38v, 1.37v etc... The 2700K is not really a better binned silicon of 2600K. It is clocked 100MHz faster than the 2600K but might be worse in terms of OCbility and loves voltage. |
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