I like having open options like tuna and eggs instead of whey or blends when I need protein. Powders same time everyday makes my day kinda grey.

yup...canned tuna in water instead of mayo.
brand ayam...
in office, it's a fast way.pop open and start stuffing
look for the less sodium 1...should have...

in fact, i noticed now got canned tuna in mineral water...
i normally get the less fat less sodium 1...

i juz wondering will protein make my belly bigger.... hehe

i admit i do not train very hard but probably better than those gradma

Normally i will went to gym 3 to 4 time per week

and

i do get sore after work out.

fat cannot transform into fat, it must be your carb intake la bro
sore after workout? normal

Protein is still calories, calories CAN convert into fat. Muscle cannot be converted into fat, you mixed it up there.

thx for the fix

hit plateau?

try tabata / interval

bigger = heavy weight
fat loss = more reps

correct ka?

Perhaps you can try L-Carnitine to cut off those fats first?

yes i just love the canned tuna in mineral water. those in water only r too salty for my taste = alot more sodium

If you are taking Ultimate Musclejuice 2544, confirm you will get fat because it contains sugar alot.. the new musclejuice 2600 are 71% sugar less.

Who the fk mentioned Musclejuice? Musclejuice is a weight gainer anyway. Your answers from the other threads shows you're a moron who probably doesn't even train or doesn't knows squat.

apparently my fat only at my belly, its really make me frustrated cuz
when i tend to do a lot of cardio and diet i could not loss fat from belly



fyi, prevously im 80kg currently is 65kg and 174cm




This post has been edited by clazzikul: Jan 22 2011, 11:21 AM

Conventional nutrition is wrong. Protein and fat cannot be be converted into body fat. Excessive insulin spike converts sugar into body fat.
No doubt protein and fat are still calories but inside our body they work differently. But in mathematics you are correct. In reality you are wrong.
Excessive intake of protein and fat will be excreted out. Those who are on keto diet can never get fat no matter how much they eat. Putting them back on the same amount of calories with increase in carbs and reduction in protein and fat, they will start to gain back their body fat.

thanks for the explanation.. i thought i interpreted wrongly after watching gary taubes's lecture, now this really had clear my doubts.

Good luck trying to lose belly/abdominal fat through cardio and diet... coz it ain't gonna work.

Out of curiosity what would we have to do then ? Especially for skinny fats like me ? I'm thin all over at 68kg but have frustrating belly and love handles

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This post has been edited by izdyharz: Feb 5 2011, 03:34 AM

Yeah, care to share what is the proper way to lose abdominal fat then?

Relax yo, I cuti a few days.

Metabolic Resistance Training / circuit training. Skinny fat needs to build strength, build muscles and add some resisted conditioning. If not, belly fat is not easy to get rid.

It's somewhere in the first post.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1170813

Cardio... unless you're running fast, sprinting and running hills (all of which builds some strength)... will not help skinny fat guys get rid of that belly.

The easiest to start: http://hunderpushups.com
Do loads of it, and you'll be happy with the results.

hey mate, i think you meant http://www.hundredpushups.com ... lol