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post Jan 4 2011, 07:11 PM

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The way I see it, ade people akan gunakan peluang ni utk kenakan gomen.

No offense pada yang mengutuk, THIS IS A CHOICE. Nak derma, go ahead. Tanak, diam. Jangan la pulak nak tuding2 jari kat gomen ape kebende. The best part, ade plak aku terbaca post yang cakap cuti peristiwa yang Najib bagi aritu cover utk New Year? WTF?

Korang ni hipokrit syal. Aku jujur la cakap. Malaysians skang ni ramai yang dah opportunist. Baik Melayu, Cina & India. Kalau ade profit/benefit kat diri sendri baru OK, kalo tak wat derk je.

Aku nampak usaha ni sebagai nak memajukan industri bolasepak negara. Amek contoh liga-liga Eropah sudah. Dorang dapat banyak giler benefits ngan main utk certain teams. Kenapa kita tak boleh buat bende yang sama?

Pastu nak crite pasal duit tax? Brape yang korang contribute setahun? Itu pun dah bising nak mampus. Kalau duduk kat UK or negara2 yang kuat tax lagi la dah memekak kot. That's why orang2 kat sana banyak benefit, dorang kene tax tinggi. Kita kat Malaysia, tax tak berapa nak tinggi tapi bising mintak 1st class punya benefits lah. Tapi mentality sumenye 3rd class.

Itu baru cite pasal tax. Yang dok alim giler tadi, ZAKAT PENDAPATAN yang 2.5% tu ade bayar ke? Kalo takde, diam. Takyah nak pura-pura alim. Takat bayar zakat fitrah tiap kali Ramadhan/Syawal takyah nak bising cam alim sangat.

Simple as, nak derma, dermalah. Tanak derma, diam.

Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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post Jan 4 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 07:11 PM)
Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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Sometimes, cenel yang bukan kita anggap terbaik tu sebenarnye medan yang paling sesuai untuk kita buat sesuatu.. aku boleh je sebarkan bende ni kat kat dalam kepompong kubu kuat peminat bola mesia sahaja.... tapi aku rase kat sini lagi value added... awareness akan lebih bertambah...

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post Jan 4 2011, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(joe405 @ Jan 4 2011, 05:08 PM)
bersedekah la pada mereka yg lebih memerlukan..
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post Jan 4 2011, 07:28 PM

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post Jan 4 2011, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 07:11 PM)
The way I see it, ade people akan gunakan peluang ni utk kenakan gomen.

No offense pada yang mengutuk, THIS IS A CHOICE. Nak derma, go ahead. Tanak, diam. Jangan la pulak nak tuding2 jari kat gomen ape kebende. The best part, ade plak aku terbaca post yang cakap cuti peristiwa yang Najib bagi aritu cover utk New Year? WTF?

Korang ni hipokrit syal. Aku jujur la cakap. Malaysians skang ni ramai yang dah opportunist. Baik Melayu, Cina & India. Kalau ade profit/benefit kat diri sendri baru OK, kalo tak wat derk je.

Aku nampak usaha ni sebagai nak memajukan industri bolasepak negara. Amek contoh liga-liga Eropah sudah. Dorang dapat banyak giler benefits ngan main utk certain teams. Kenapa kita tak boleh buat bende yang sama?

Pastu nak crite pasal duit tax? Brape yang korang contribute setahun? Itu pun dah bising nak mampus. Kalau duduk kat UK or negara2 yang kuat tax lagi la dah memekak kot. That's why orang2 kat sana banyak benefit, dorang kene tax tinggi. Kita kat Malaysia, tax tak berapa nak tinggi tapi bising mintak 1st class punya benefits lah. Tapi mentality sumenye 3rd class.

Itu baru cite pasal tax. Yang dok alim giler tadi, ZAKAT PENDAPATAN yang 2.5% tu ade bayar ke? Kalo takde, diam. Takyah nak pura-pura alim. Takat bayar zakat fitrah tiap kali Ramadhan/Syawal takyah nak bising cam alim sangat.

Simple as, nak derma, dermalah. Tanak derma, diam.

Kepada TS, maybe LYN ni bukan cenel yang terbaik utk salurkan bende ni. Tengok je la issue2 kat RWI ngan Kopitiam. No offense, tp forums ni selalu nye cam tempat orang utk b****ing/whining about their dissatisfactions. Sama cam blog, tweeter and FB. Nice effort in bringing up this.
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post Jan 4 2011, 08:12 PM

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IMHO, derma is not the right word for that tabung.. its a reward, or maybe present.. (ganjaran = reward =/=derma). no?

if that is the case, then its not the same case with poor give money to rich, etc, etc... its like we give present to someone we like/love, on a special occasion, and that person might be richer than us, maybe friend, parent, our boss..

but i opt not to do it (yet).. me also not really rich yet..heheh

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post Jan 4 2011, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 06:03 PM)
majority of them RM5000 per month while we just get RM1500-RM3000
it sound weird when the poor give money to the rich
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u need to know, dorang punya 5K permonth doesnt last for long (maybe just 1 injury, then Walllllaaa, byebye)while we, us..sampai retire lah, 55..do the count,
bagi or not, up to u..if you truly would like to appreciate what they did, then you will donate without hesitation. kan senang.

lagipun kat depan dah tulis
Orang ramai boleh menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
bukannya Orang ramai MESTI menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
it souund weird when orang tidak paksa derma pun kena cakap macam dorng memaksa poor give money to rich icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jan 4 2011, 08:57 PM

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Don't ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

Kalau boleh beli jersi Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, MU ori mahal2 siap terbang ke Old Trafford lg nk tengok perlawanan live. Awat x boleh nk derma RM10 kt pemain Malaysia? Kalau xnk derma sudah jangan nak fitnah pihak lain. Siap masuk politik2 lagi, tah pape. X leh bezakan satu isu lain dgn yang lain.
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post Jan 4 2011, 09:04 PM

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dont blame gov please. kita bukan negara maju. this is the beginning for a bright future..who knows.
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post Jan 4 2011, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(choy89 @ Jan 4 2011, 08:34 PM)
u need to know, dorang punya 5K permonth doesnt last for long (maybe just 1 injury, then Walllllaaa, byebye)while we, us..sampai retire lah, 55..do the count,
bagi or not, up to u..if you truly would like to appreciate what they did, then you will donate without hesitation. kan senang.

lagipun kat depan dah tulis
Orang ramai boleh menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
bukannya Orang ramai MESTI menyumbang melalui akaun CIMB SAM
it souund weird when orang tidak paksa derma pun kena cakap macam dorng memaksa poor give money to rich icon_rolleyes.gif
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really, i dont know that, i tot they will get RM5000 until they turn 55 yo drool.gif


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post Jan 4 2011, 09:30 PM

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Pasal benda nie pun nak gaduh..

Rilek ar kawan.

Nak bagi. Bagi. Tak nak bagi. Tak payah.

Aku fikir lar.. Kalau orang Indonesia selamba je bagi sumbangan.
Tengok bola kat stadium pun sanggup bergolok-gadai.
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post Jan 4 2011, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
aku off topic kejap. takde kene mengena dgn forumers kat sini.

masa final aff suzuki cup hari tu, ade jugak yg komplen pasal harga tiket naik dari rm 15 ---> rm 30. dorang kata sepatutnya harga tiket rm 10 supaya semua rakyat malaysia boleh tengok (ayat bajet marhaen konon). tiket manure lwn Malaysia beratus hengget takde pulak nak komplen
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i can accept if they rise because a logic reason, but if the ticket RM10 some student from IPTA can come and make it fullhouse

last time FAM rise the final match ticket because want to make it look elite
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post Jan 4 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:39 PM)
i can accept if they rise because a logic reason, but if the ticket RM10 some student from IPTA can come and make it fullhouse

last time FAM rise the final match ticket because want to make it look elite
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Student IPTA skang kaya raya je. Lelagi dari UiTM. Don't bluff lah. Been there, done that.

Kalau dapat duit loan/scholar boleh beli bende mahal2, tiket rm30 xleh? Skang ni it's more to choices. Which one yang that person nampak value for money. That said, kekadang dorang ni beli hape2 ntah or masuk skim MLM. So, alasan tu memang xlogik, at least bagi aku. Itu blom lagi nak amek kira of those yang gi social parties ke ape.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 09:44 PM)
Student IPTA skang kaya raya je. Lelagi dari UiTM. Don't bluff lah. Been there, done that.

Kalau dapat duit loan/scholar boleh beli bende mahal2, tiket rm30 xleh? Skang ni it's more to choices. Which one yang that person nampak value for money. That said, kekadang dorang ni beli hape2 ntah or masuk skim MLM. So, alasan tu memang xlogik, at least bagi aku. Itu blom lagi nak amek kira of those yang gi social parties ke ape.
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i speak with my own expereince (study in UPM 2002-2005), got RM3500 per semester, pay fee RM1200 the balance RM2300 divide four month RM575/month, with RM575 per month live in KL cry.gif
not all people afford it even it just RM30

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post Jan 4 2011, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jan 4 2011, 09:54 PM)
i speak with my own expereince (study in UPM 2002-2005), got RM3500 per semester, pay fee RM1200 the balance RM2300 divide four month RM575/month, with RM575 per month live in KL cry.gif
not all people afford it even it just RM30
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bro, fees aku dulu RM2000++ per semester. loan lebih kurang sama cam ko gak. KL gak. but still manage to save here and there. cam aku cakap, how you live your life. it depends on choices. kalo nak idup lavishly cam those yang berduit, memang susah lah.


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post Jan 4 2011, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 4 2011, 10:02 PM)
bro, fees aku dulu RM2000++ per semester. loan lebih kurang sama cam ko gak. KL gak. but still manage to save here and there. cam aku cakap, how you live your life. it depends on choices. kalo nak idup lavishly cam those yang berduit, memang susah lah.
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yeah, that why i didnt idup lavishly cam those yang berduit
luckily now i can go watch state team every time they play at home rclxm9.gif
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post Jan 4 2011, 10:12 PM

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Dia tulis Sportswriter kan?
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QUOTE(AKace @ Jan 4 2011, 09:19 PM)
aku off topic kejap. takde kene mengena dgn forumers kat sini.

masa final aff suzuki cup hari tu, ade jugak yg komplen pasal harga tiket naik dari rm 15 ---> rm 30. dorang kata sepatutnya harga tiket rm 10 supaya semua rakyat malaysia boleh tengok (ayat bajet marhaen konon). tiket manure lwn Malaysia beratus hengget takde pulak nak komplen
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ke ko yg complain... laugh.gif
jgn hangat2 taik ayam dah ler..masa menang disanjung
dan2 ler avatar,signature suma tukar
jgn "terlalu butthurt sangat" apa yg aku komen
as i know,aku sebagai anak jati malaysia,aku berhak nak bgtau pendapat/pandangan aku
aku pun xde pun kata aku tentang sngt2 benda ni,terpulang la nak bg

Tak semestinya duduk diam x sokong,tak semestinya yg bising,melalak tu sokong 100%


peace bro icon_rolleyes.gif ..we are malaysian

Off Topic : To assendro10,i salute u,even ur thread get negative comment (proof on ur pool now,i can say more than 70% tottally not agree with this,but u stay cool thumbup.gif )


End Of The Story :
Aku dgn bangganya mengumumkan,aku takkan derma duit aku walau sesen pun thumbup.gif
Hak aku,duit aku,suka hati aku thumbup.gif

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post Jan 4 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Nuclear_Crap @ Jan 4 2011, 10:18 PM)
ke ko yg complain... laugh.gif
jgn hangat2 taik ayam dah ler..masa menang disanjung
dan2 ler avatar,signature suma tukar
jgn "terlalu butthurt sangat" apa yg aku komen
as i know,aku sebagai anak jati malaysia,aku berhak nak bgtau pendapat/pandangan aku
aku pun xde pun kata aku tentang sngt2 benda ni,terpulang la nak bg

Tak semestinya duduk diam x sokong,tak semestinya yg bising,melalak tu sokong 100%
peace bro icon_rolleyes.gif ..we are malaysian

Off Topic : To assendro10,i salute u,even ur thread get negative comment (proof on ur pool now,i can say 70% tottally not agree with this,but u stay cool thumbup.gif )
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lu tuduh gua gloryhunter? aku ts malaysian football thread

kalau tak nak bagi, ko patut diam awal2 lagi. jgn pulak mulut macam p4ntat ayam. ape2 pun, malaysia negara demokrasi. ko nak bagi, bagi je la. tak nak bagi, polis tak tangkap pun

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post Jan 4 2011, 10:24 PM

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aku ingat lagi ada kelab2 di liga bawahan Inggeris yang buat tabung untuk selamatkan kelab mereka daripada bankrap. Aku x ingat nama kelab tu. Tapi penyokong2 setia diorang sanggup hulurkan duit poket sendiri.

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