this has been explained may time before in previous page. You can browse back.

they win it for US. Not the FA. Its the Malaysia batch that they kissed so passionately. the dont love the FA thaatt much. beleive me.

THIS IS NOT A CHARITY. Its a show of gratitute and appreciation. What better way to actually show it? changing your profile pic in FB?

Those profile and tag, emblem mean nothing if we didn't actually do something for our local/national football scene.

yea maybe but you must not forget that they are doing it for themselves as well. imho, the proper way to show gratitude is actually turning up to watch the league games and national games. dont just show up during semis or finals or important matches

as a tax payer ... i believe i already did my part in helping them ... serzly ...

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jan 5 2011, 11:30 PM

dont think of yourself as a taxpayer for once. instead try being a human being. they gave you something and its nice of you to just give something back. its not like when your child (if you have 1) passes his/her examinations and you dont give them anything to celebrate that achievement cause you have already payed for tax and that translate to you giving them an education.

rm5 also not that much what, but if everyone gives rm5 it will pill up as well. lets all change and instead of thinking what others can do for us, why not if all of us think what we can do for others. then there wont be anyone who is sidelined and the world would be a much better place

This post has been edited by modben: Jan 5 2011, 11:39 PM

And we should not celebrate and feel gratitude for their achievement just because they also doing it for themselves?

Turning up for league games and national games is a good spirit... but thats for other occasion.. we are celebrating the momentous inaugural malaysian south east asia champions here.... out of population of 593 million people covering 5,000,000 km2, these are the best 22 people at football in this region.. its an achievement thats worth a reward on its own...

just consider it a RM 10 you would pay for normal league match tickets, without the hasssle of tol, parking and gasoline cost...


FAM is an Non-Govermental-Organization. Your tax money is not the bulk of their budget.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 6 2011, 12:06 AM

honestly speaking, i was rarely rewarded for scoring good grades simply because im doing it for my own sake =P

if we want to donate, we should donate to something that will help MY football as a whole because it will be more beneficial in the long run.

also it is not a matter of RM5 or not. i frequently donate to charities and beggars if i ever come across any.

yeah. i dont get it also.

To celebrates this occasion, they rather donate RM 199 to Nike in exchange of a shirt made of recycled bottles instead of raising RM 10 to the players who actually won it..

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Added on January 6, 2011, 12:03 amShowing private initiatives likes this also beneficial in the long run as the financial and moral support transpires by it will give encouragement fot current and future players that their effort is appreciated...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 6 2011, 12:03 AM

i didnt say that we should not be thankful. i was merely reminding you that it is of their own personal gain to perform well as well. it is not like they are doing a MotherTeresa kind of thing =P

urm ... more jerseys sold = more $ for FAM ... if FAM no $ ... you think they can develop as a player w/o those facilities or trainings? i dont see anything wrong with it at all.

Problem is people willing to spend their $$$ when it come about foreign league (EPL. La Liga, Serie A, J-League etc.), but when it is about Malaysia football suddenly it become controversial.

The Aku Janji should be a part of the 'personal gain'. IMO, all the poeple of malaysia who shouted at the GBK's final whistle owe it to them...


I dont say buying jersey is wrong. Its comparison between the jersey price and the amount you should contribute that is wrong.. RM 199 = Nike Jersey..OK!!! .. RM 10 = reward player...NOOOO!!..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 6 2011, 12:14 AM

herhh, ok maybe not the best of examples but you get my drift, i hope. and its really cool if you do your part for charity, totally respect that.
but what better way to show how much we appreciate what they did on the field then to reward them? in the long run more players will work harder to get into the team which results in an influx of many talented players for our coaches to pick from. and from that even if safee doesnt perform, others might take his place.

i dont think FAM benefits much from the sales of jerseys. more jerseys sold = more $ for nike, not FAM as far as i can tell. its suppose to be a form of sponsorship, gains from sales of jerseys goes to nike. FAM only receive what is agreed between both parties. i might be wrong here, but i doubt it

showing gratitude is alright, no question about that. my point is, this tabung thing should not even exist in the 1st place. the govt/FA should have something in place already just like the RM1million per gold medal (which i think is an overkill lol) . it shouldnt be up to us citizens to create all these tabungs.

also, can anybody confirm that all they got was the prize money? im kinda skeptical that the govt didnt even give 1 cent

This post has been edited by jiidaineko: Jan 6 2011, 12:32 AM

IMO, one of the triggering points of local football revolution is the start of 'not depending everything on the administrator/organizer/goverment and them blame them ' mentality..

TSAM's KAFA started the ball rolling with his aggresive re-branding and pro-active marketing strategy... the red warrior's fan then follows through with fan initiated organized supporting culture... some young boys are tired with waiting until the team qualified to the second round of the world cup to support the team, so they formed 'Ultras Malaya' to give visible and audible support to the national team for every match inconsiderate to the result on the pitch... win, lose, or draw, the players knew that they can count on the Ultra's support...

this Aku Janji fund is Sportwriter's public initiative to show public support to the team. i thinks it is very beautiful as support from the public will be more meaningful to the players then support from the goverment...

we should not only support this fund to support the players... we should also support this fund to encourage more private initative to come out and be pro-active in supporting our local team.. this wait and see then point the fingers to the governemnt attitude must end now..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 6 2011, 01:06 AM

quite tall that North Korean captain. a long ball into their box might not be a good idea.

I agree with your points except the bold one. This is not the public role. This role belongs to the G and FAM.
It's like when you score straight As in STPM, you expect your parent to reward you. This is perfectly normal. But surely you don't expect the whole neighborhood to reward you as well, do you?

This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Jan 6 2011, 09:45 AM

to the contrary, the public are the actual customer and paymaster of the football industry... not the government... government and FAM's money should be used to develope and organize instead...

who should reward the victors mainly depend on who the victory represents.... have you heard the old days when one of of the kampung boys get admitted to the University in the city, the whole kampung will gotong-royong to hold a 'kenduri kesyukuran'.. they even collect money for his transportation and start-up..to them, the boy represent the whole kampung and its future... thats the goodwill and sacrificing spirit thats getting eroded from today's society...

for me... the 'Malaysia' in Malaysian national team does not represent "Malaysia- the government'. It represent 'Malaysia- the people'...they actually representing you... not some other people's child in your neighborhood.....they are your prodigol son doing their best to pass the exam to get your approval..... dont you think they deserve a break?



This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 6 2011, 01:57 PM

then malaysian should 'donate' to those that won the gold medal in the recent asia game ...

has you donated? Care to explain why you object so much?

Paymaster in terms of commercial, yes. Deserve a break? Yes. But not like this kind of donation! This is not the right way. Donate money just because they won something? This is not the culture I want to see.

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Added on January 6, 2011, 2:20 pmExactly.

This post has been edited by O-haiyo: Jan 6 2011, 02:20 PM