haha, a bit late but i like this.

I think legally there is no doubt it is "office". The SPA said so, the architect cert stated so.

But reality is often differs from the legality.

Not talking about the investment point of view. Congrats to the buyers, you have made money la. No doubt.



What is interesting here, going forwards, what will this SS or other SOXO going to be?

1. A lot of agents are marketing it as resi, how does market respond to it? Do they want it as resi or office?

2. How will the developer / JMB / MC manage it, i.e. do they allow ppl to stay overnight, everyday?

3. Most importantly, how will local authority respond to this? One unit in an entire tower used as resi, i dun think it will create trouble. What if 50% or more of the office units are used as resi, any action will be taken?

3.1 If action were to be taken, how does it affect SS? And the future soxo to be vped?

3.2 If no action were to be taken, hor sei liao, all investors will buy soxo AND if no actions to be taken, why have different guideline imposed on the resi and office development?

I only have questions, indeed keen to know the answer in future.

They say 2 wrongs dont make a right, betul ke?

Also, manyak are shop apartment (not shop office).

Aiya, soli..... ada too much meh?

Saw this from kichi miao's summary.

Kai wan siao, if building bylaws or local authority cannot stop an office being used as resi (or cannot take action), who has the authority?

Eh, lou fu doesnt take action doeant mean they dun have the power. Kenot suka suka wan.

Boss, dun be liddat la.

Haha... i like ur che and che
dinner time ......enjoy ! Have a nice weekend.

Any other threads discussing abt SOXO in general ? Dun want to be seen as "attacking" ss.

hi, Leng lui, you have a nice picture (correct to address u liddat arr?)

Other than DMC, owners may want to take a look at the House Rule. A copy of the HR may or may not be attached in the DMC itself. But, either case, a new set of the HR should be available now.

House Rules says anything? Indeed challenging for the developer to draft the House Rules.

eh, meant and intended to be opis but promoted, build and furnish it to be like resi.
Now, silent on the usage? Not challenging meh? PIC face questions from the buyers leh. What if as owners demand for as answers? You are not in the shoes to explain to buyers leh. No fun, really.

ooops, better siam ss.

This post has been edited by SAHM: Apr 27 2015, 06:27 PM

good and thanks for the clarification.

Oh, there are posts here claiming that they were told otherwise? Or may be in some cases, they knew that it is opis from day one and now intend to use it otherwise? However, they are genuine buyers who bought with the intention to rent / use it as opis, i know.

Boss, high chance it will happen. Good for the office also la. Can co-exist wan. No problem. Ya yum cha lim kopi.

You may not be wrong. But the article is misleading...

Hi, Roy,

I am not harping on SS but the discussion happen to be here.

Service apartment- Sevice apartment is a different issue altogether. Service apartment is property built on commercial land ,approved for residential use by the local authority, MBPJ, for example. Housing Ministry include this under HDA to protect home buyer's interest in 2007, as this is for "housing accommodation".

Office - when a project is approved as " office" by local authority, MBPJ, DBKL, for that matters, is not for residential use. There are different sets of requirements under the building by laws, or guidelines.

SOHO - Is another official hybrid, approved for commercial cum residential use. But, there are not many so called "SOHO" are officially approved as " SOHO" , especially those built some 10 years ago. As there is an element of residential in "SOHO", Housing Ministry has also include it in HDA.

There are also developer who intend to sell hotel rooms and managed to get APDL, but, again, whether it is legal? there are loopholes and local authority can only use the existing law to take action, or, create new one, if necessary , or only if they care to take action. We all know the sale of hotel rooms has been withdrawn. No guarantee that we won't have other similar case. Different issues, again.

I think we must know the difference between the role played and authority vested in Housing Ministry and local authority separately. I am not surprised Housing Ministry approved APDL for, hotel room, for example, but that doesn't mean that MPBJ / DBKL cannot take action, if they want to.

But then again, in reality, we are used to a situation where, " Didn't mention means can lor." Or "No action taken means can lor.". It doesn't matters really, we have lots of things happening without actions taken. It is up to the investor.

Just my 2 cents, for discussion sake.

Boss,
Happy Chinese New Year and wish you and your family many joyful years, blessed with good health.

I tot I am the one that yet to sleep... So late liao... Good night!

Hi, Kochin

GXFC

Ya... Hotel room to individualsssssss.....

Hotel rooms - I heard about other development in KL too. Technically, as long as can get strata titles, APDL issued, why cannot? but hor, what is the difference between hotel room and studio units? When hotel room are owned by 1000 individualssss, for own-stay, do we still call it hotel? What action can authority takes? There might be some existing relevant laws. But, one famous Subang case ( with APDL, selling as resi units), seems was taken to court on other ground. Otherwise, authority can only take action after CCC. Too late. But then again, only if they take action la.

SS, as long as investors are making informed decision. No problem la. I am sure there are also investors are buying with full knowledge that it is for office use.

This post has been edited by SAHM: Feb 19 2016, 11:47 AM