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post Nov 24 2012, 08:57 PM

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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Sierra Glow (M) Sdn. Bhd. would like express our gratitude for all customers support.Almost all of our business comes from people like you telling your friends.

We want to say "thank you" for believing in us and our Sierra Glow.
To make our services more convenient we wanted to announce that starting on December 2nd, we will be open on Sunday! Our new schedule means you or your friends can choose any day to make a booking for our Sierra Glow application. We ask you to spread the word...Thanks! You can contact me at 016 217 0312 / 016 345 2913. Thank again,. Choong
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post Mar 1 2013, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Termibait @ Nov 14 2012, 11:30 PM)
I use clay bar and ipo(pure alcohol) to get rid of water mark. It works but very time consuming. U nid to wash car, clay bar, wipe clean and then wipe with alchohol...easily 3hours.

I wash frequently and yet water mark still unavoidable. I do found out that after clay bar treatment, paint surface is more sticky and tend to get dirty faster
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Hi Termibait, Wowwww! Sorry to learn that after you have clay bar your car and become sticky and get dirty faster. Glad if you can contact me to arrange a date so that I can rectify the problem for you. Be glad if you can let me know more detail when you are using the clay bar.
1. IPA need to be diluted to a ratio of 1:1 with water, it cannot be use concentrated.
2. What normally use when using a clay bar? Water or shampoo?
3. How much pressure do you use when claying?
4. What sort of dirt are you referring to, that your car get dirty faster?
5. Did the car surface condition smoother after clay bar?
Thank you. Hope to hear from you.
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post Mar 3 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Termibait @ Mar 3 2013, 02:48 PM)
Mr choong, thank you for your concern on this.

To answer your question.
1. I was not told that ipa has to be diluted with water when I got it from you.
2. You did not say use shampoo to clay bar too.(when you demonstrate, u say just wet the surface.
3. It's very light pressure unless water mark/stain is too visible.
4. Dust accumulated on paint surface.
5. It's smooth as I have been washing car almost 1-2 times a week.

I appreciate if could have a look at the car somewhere this week. Pm me your available date and time. I will make a trip to your shop.

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Hi Termibait,
1.The IPA from me has been diluted.
2. I may not inform you to use shampoo but during the demo session the surface condition is different. Depend on the surface and what solution to apply. But nevertheless they will be instruction on the packaging how to use the clay bar when you purchase it.
3. No pressure is require when using a clay bar. Unless you may have a problem situation, then a different way need to be use. I may have not advice you various problem from A to Z in detail. I only advise on normal problem. Otherwise I need to organise a 3 days workshop for all this. But I always info owner's to contact me if they encounter any situation which unable to solve.
4. Sierra Glow is not for keeping dust away. But help washing easy. Sierra Glow coating is to protect our paint from oxidation. In simple, after wash your car will remain shine and not change colour. We warranty 5 years the coating will remain on the surface from oxidation. However, direct or indirect damage and stains will not be warranty.

You may bring in your car on 4th, 7th or 8th Mar. Please contact me @ 016 2170312 / 016 3452913.

Thank you. Cheers..

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post Mar 3 2013, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(stepling88 @ Mar 3 2013, 01:23 PM)
I m not satisfied with SG, doing on sep last year, now the colour look dull, totally not shine at all, and some more got a lot of water mark!! Really waste of money, Should be easy to maintain with just rinsing with water, rite? That what i heard and see a lot of comment form here, and went to do it, now turn out i still have to do clay bar, now even i use clay bar, the water mark just hard to get off!!  cry.gif
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Hi stepling88,
The condition sound to be very serious. I will be happy if you will to arrange an appointment to bring in your car and I will rectify the matter for you. Appreciate if you can upload photos of your car at different angle. We have exhaust fume, industrial pollution, acidic rain, road tar and your daily driving condition. All this will contribute dirt to stick on to the surface. Those days nobody hear of clay bar. No car wash center or detailing shop ever advise their customer to use. Otherwise they will not have business if they let you know. Every household has a screwdriver, right? Every car owner's must have a clay bar to clean their car. Or else we need to send our car to car wash detailing shop. We educate our customer to use clay bar so that it will be economical for owner's to DIY them self rather to send car wash center to do the job. Water marks or stain does not develop overnight. We have to prevent rather than to cure when happens. Water marks develop on the car surface is due to crystallisation of pollution dirt which accumulated over a period, 3 days, 1 week, 10 days, 2 weeks and so on.

Please contact me at 016 2170312 or 016 3452913 to bring in your car. I be most sincere to rectify the matter for you. Thank you for your support.
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post Mar 3 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Feb 28 2013, 05:07 PM)
has the rain spot issue been solved? Is it a common problem among the SG users to have watermark? Cause my friend use PPH solution and dont have this issue
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Hi hellfire8888, Sorry I think you may have phrase the sentence in correct. 1. Any type of coating will still have stain or water marks crystallise on the surface if owner's do not take precautionary measure to maintain their car. The theory is, if your car surface is clean. The chances of contamination of pollution and dirt will be minimise. 2. If you observe older cars front windshield, why the wiper wipe area has no water marks and the area which the wiper unable to wipe has many water marks visible.

Today I even witness a 6 months Mazda CX 5 that came for Sierra Glow coating, eventually have water marks on the surface too.. Hope our fans will understand more of the function of Glass coating. The main purpose is to protect our original paint from oxidation. Therefore after wash will maintain the shine.

Cheers...
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post Mar 6 2013, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 3 2013, 10:34 PM)
I thought the point if applying an expensive coating means maintenance is splash with water instead of even more work than normal non coated paint
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Hi rcracer, Many have misunderstand about Paint Protection Coating. Any in the market many detailing shop mislead car owner's about this. There are many type of this products in the market, mainly there are polymer based. Sierra Glow Glassglow coating is the latest technology from Japan which is inorganic Silica Glass (non solvent) material. This will protect your car paint and a more lasting shine. Of course any damage whether direct or indirect or stains will not be cover. Owner's will still need the responsibility to self maintain their car to utmost clean condition.

Before such coating in the market, why do we send our cars for waxing and polishing? We do not just polish our car for lust. Because the car surface is losing the gloss or change of color. Why is this happening? Oxidation... Each time we wax and polish our car, how long the shine will last? 3 to 4 months? We will repeat the same with waxing and polishing. Each time how much it will cost? One year if we repeat about 3 times, how much it will sum up? Do we notice the swirl marks on the car surface after waxing and polishing? This is cause by abrasive ness of the compound and polishing machine use that cuts into the paint surface and will cause our paint to become thinner... Do we still prefer waxing and polishing?

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post Mar 6 2013, 08:26 PM

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[quote=Neo_Y,Mar 3 2013, 11:08 PM]
Isn't the Mazda CX-5 come with Tribos? I'm interested to know more about the combination of Tribos and Sierra Glow.
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No comment to what the CX 5 have done before. But my owner which he has done Sierra Glow coating for his wife Honda Insight about a year ago have notice the big different between our shine and his CX 5. It will be no major problem for us to work on any cars that have other coating before and still bind on well.

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post Mar 7 2013, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 6 2013, 11:38 PM)
But if I need to care for the coating the same as normal no coating, then might as well just care for the original paint.

My idea is if I coat something I expect it to be tougher and less maintenance than no coating. If it doesn't decrease my work then it serves no purpose.

Eg Teflon pans, without coating food sticks and burns and hard to remove, once coated easier to clean and also tough to scratch.
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Yes, I agreed. I had a Teflon pan that lasted for two years until now. I normally eat out or take away 3 meals 7 days a week. My mum bought a Teflon pan but 3 months later she put it in the disposer bin. She use to cook daily and the last time she was frying Cod fish and the fish stick on to it. This happen when she was preparing CNY reunion dinner and imagine dishing out the fish in pieces. she was so piss off. She has to buy special plastic stirrer and have to avoid using Scotch brite to scrub otherwise will cause scratches to it. My mother is a very fussy type, she keep cleaning the pan and yet it feel oily. I wonder how often you use your Teflon pan and how do you clean it. It seems my mother not so educated and know how to use such hi tech pan. Somehow the pan surface did not few smooth like 1st time she start using. Maybe the residue could have blended together with the food cook and extra Vitamin T in our stomach.
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post Mar 7 2013, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(kokanchai @ Mar 7 2013, 02:34 PM)
Hi guys.

I am  serrial glow users

So far my car about 3 month.still nice and shine

I am using their car shampoo to DIY my self.

Cheer.
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Hi kokanchai, Thank you for your feedback. How is The surface condition, is it stail smooth? Any problem please feel free to contact me.Cheers.
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post Mar 7 2013, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Mar 7 2013, 04:26 PM)
Interesting.
So the Sierra Glow can be apply on a surface that is protected with other coating as well, say the Tribos?
I will soon become a Mazda owner, and the car come with Tribos paint protection coating. Seriously, I find it not shining enough and I'm prohibited to wax or polish it. If SG can overcome it, I will pay you a visit real soon.
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Yes, boleh. If you login my Facebook under Kf Choong Sierra Glow will have photos of some Mazda car did recently. Cheers.

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post Mar 8 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 8 2013, 07:34 AM)
if sierra glow is also like your mom teflon pan, can we put it into the bin also?
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Oh of course, but that was a Teflon coated pan. But you was stress on how good your Teflon pan. You never at one time how long your Teflon pan lasted. Sometimes human will tell one side of their story and hide the truth the other. Consumer now are very intelligent, let the product speak for itself. That why I have few ex Teflon pan user but switch to Sierra Glow. Not only him but his family members wife, son and daughter also came for Sierra Glow. Pointless to practice Red Ocean strategy.

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post Mar 8 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 8 2013, 01:41 PM)
bro, answer the qeustion if i coat with sierra glow do i have to care for it as much as normal paint or not??

yes or no?
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Depend on your definition of normal care? But I can assure you will need not to wax and polish your car which eventually the original paint will get thinner. We have the latest technology from Japan and much superior lasting shine. Just need to normal wash and shampoo to keep the surface clean. Of on you do need to clay bar the surface. We advise our customer to clay bar their car. Unlike other will not be generous to advise because they will loss business if customer don't need their service to maintain their car.

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post Mar 8 2013, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 8 2013, 03:26 PM)
Erm... I think Mr.Choong (@sierraglow)qualifies as 'uncle' rather than 'bro'. Unless you're already 50 that is. He's a nice friendly 'uncle'. And also a tree hugger haha
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Thank you azfamy for your nice compliment.
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post Mar 8 2013, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(azfamy @ Mar 8 2013, 09:17 PM)
Can i get discount to coat my other car?  brows.gif
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Yes, will give you a good deal.. But as you know our price is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is top of the range. Please do let me know. Thank you. thumbup.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Mar 9 2013, 08:11 AM)
so might as well just care for the car with cheaper wax since a coating is also not as hard if not given the same attention

the cost of coatings just don't justify its use if it doesn't reduce regular maintenance to a bare minimum and still retain shine.

if I do the same for a non coated car then the paint will last as long as a coated one so what the coating does but add weight
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since both are sacrificial and both require same care then what does the coating provide then? Easy washing wax also does that.

plus today's modern paints are also much hard wearing already I dare even say exceeding these coatings which are maybe 20 year old tech?

Is there solid research into the sacrificial rate of cheap wax versus coatings? I say there are none

How can anyone prove that the coating is still there now that they have to care for it as much and that the coating didn't already wear off completely and the are actually caring for the original paint still assuming it's the coating?

The price if the coating is close to a full outer respray of the car. If I wanted to sell I'll just respray it and it'll look a billion times better than any old coating if any remains. Isn't it easier to just let the paint weather normally and full respray since both cost the same. At least I can really not care rather than pay and still do the donkey work
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1. Why do we wax and polish our car?
2. How long can the shine last after each waxing and polishing?
3. How much will cost each time waxing and polishing ?
4. Do we notice the swirl marks and hologram marks on the surface after waxing and polishing ?
5. Will our original paint become thinner to frequent waxing and polishing ?
6. Is our original paint better than new coat of paint?
7. Will the paint remove all rubber gasket lighting before repainting?
8. How long can the gloss effect of the new paint last ?
9. Question No 1 to 5 process will repeat again.
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post Mar 10 2013, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(blu3 @ Mar 10 2013, 01:24 AM)
I'm interested with coating as well, can protect car under extreme weather of malaysia

Just one question, what the solution of swirl mark after coating ?
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Yes, no a issue with our Malaysia weather. Swirl marks can be minimise by removing hard dirt like sand or soil off the surface prior to began shampoo. We have to take precautionary method to avoid causing swirl marks on the surface. Please do contact me for further info. Thank you.

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post Mar 11 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(asylum14 @ Mar 11 2013, 01:17 AM)
Hi, I've applied SG for about a month (still a satisfied customer). I got a question on claying the car and seek your kind input.

I bought meg clay bar and will be claying my car soon. Apart from water to lubricate the clay and surface, what other recommended lubrication can I use?
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Hi asylum, You may use mild shampoo or if not mistaken meg would have a product for it too.but ensure shampoo is rinse well before being folding.

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post Mar 13 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 12 2013, 05:12 PM)
i've considered applying my car with sierraglow but it seems like it is tedious as well. i have to pay a big sum of money and still have to take proper maintenance of the coating.

also, lets say things are not as good. maybe we accidently scratches the bumper or kena kiss behind. if i go for touchup, i believe the paint will somehow distorted due to the fact that the peeled off paint are much much more thinner than other intact paint with sierraglow.
what about stone chips that hit your front bonnet every now and then?

while i can remove wax easily, i believe its not so with sg and its very expensive stuff to remove lol.

not to mention the price has just rose up 25% from RM600 (last year) to RM750 (this year). this makes the value drop further, we still have to care about the maintenance, and it may be tedious somehow later.

worthy? think again
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Hi imperialrealcs, Our price is base on the age and car model size. Our price in the market is the cheapest for Silica Glass coating which is much superior that any other. Our technology is at least 5 years advance than any other Silica Glass coating in the market and more over Glass coating is the top of the range for Paint Protection Sealant. Q

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post Mar 14 2013, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 14 2013, 01:29 AM)
ya and that still didnt answer my other concern regarding the maintenance etc. i was considering at rm600 until i asked and i got rm750 then i ditch the idea completely off due to the trouble that i would actually have after applying.
the price value drop
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Like ini have mentioned earlier, from 1st Elantra was done coating when it was launch the price is not RM600. You can do research at Elantra club and confirm the rate. It is fair for you to self determine the price or you may be one of competitions that would like to kick up a story in the forum. Thank you.
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post Mar 14 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Mar 14 2013, 01:29 AM)
ya and that still didnt answer my other concern regarding the maintenance etc. i was considering at rm600 until i asked and i got rm750 then i ditch the idea completely off due to the trouble that i would actually have after applying.
the price value drop
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There will be no major concern in maintaining. Normal washing to keep your car clean. We educate our customer to use clay bar to maintain their car, unlike does other car wash or detailing shop ever advise customer to use clay bar? Because if you a problem you will return and will charge you for the service.

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