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Termibait
post Nov 14 2012, 11:30 PM

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I use clay bar and ipo(pure alcohol) to get rid of water mark. It works but very time consuming. U nid to wash car, clay bar, wipe clean and then wipe with alchohol...easily 3hours.

I wash frequently and yet water mark still unavoidable. I do found out that after clay bar treatment, paint surface is more sticky and tend to get dirty faster
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post Nov 15 2012, 10:01 AM

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After applied SG, we r advice not to polish or wax our car. This will remove SG coat. The only way to maintain the car is to use clay bar. But u don have to do it every time after car wash. Maybe once a month depending on your available free time. As for using of alchohol, it is recommended to do it as often as possible. So, its up to individual to decide the frequency of claybar washing and alchohol usage. For me, I noticed that after clay bar, car paint is more shining and looks like showroom condition. Downside is, it attracts dirts very fast.....
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post Feb 28 2013, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ Feb 28 2013, 06:47 PM)
all of my friends that went for the SG coating were told to wash with water and to use a claybar if there are bonded contaminants on the surface. I wonder how you were not aware of this info?
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I did Sg in early August. Yes, I was told to do clay bar and ipa to wipe off water mark and bonded contaminants...but it increases more scratches and it is not easy to wash anymore. Over time, the coating is disappearing....

The more u wash, the fast the coating disappear and more scratches. Mind you, I use double bucket system. Still can c scratches here and there. Damn frustrated and feel wasting money on SG.


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post Mar 1 2013, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 1 2013, 08:36 AM)
The problem with most ppl is that they dont realise a few things about maintaining a car that has a coating:

1) You should not wash the car on your own unless you have the correct cloths. You cant use normal soft cloths as even this will scratch. The right cloth to use for the body is actually a type of skin cloth. This cloth isnt cheap and costs about RM80 per piece. Most of the professional car washes have this. Thats why its always advised that you should send your car to those car washes instead of the roadside ones or doing it yorself. You can get yorself/yor friends enrolled on 1 of those membership programs and you'll enjoy cheaper washes for a few years. In Feb 2012, I recommended a friend to do his polishing/coating at Pit Stop TTDI and since then i get my K5 washed and vacummed for only RM8 (normal price RM20). This offer is valid until Feb 2015 which i think is a good deal. Look for such deals and ull might just find one.

2) Cars with coatings should always be wiped dry after a rain. The water must never be left on the surface overnight or else you will get watermarks. But if you use that normal cloth, then ure gonna scratch the surface. So might be worth investing in the correct cloth which any professional car care centre can order for you. You cant get this type of cloth at the hardware shop so dont bother trying. All those cloths supposedly suitable for cars are in fact not suitable. If your car gets wet after a rain and you have no means to actually wipe down the car, at least hose off the car so that the acidic rain water is not left on the car surface as this eats into the paint and causes the water marks.

So before you blame the coating, first ask yourself if you have maintained the coating in the correct way. Thats why you should always think twice before spending money on doing a coating. If you feel you cannot spend the money and effort to maintain the coating then you might as well not do the coating and just do the periodic polish and wax instead.
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How on earth did u know I didn't invest in the right cloth? And how many car wash centre in Malaysia is using the correct cloth? I have seen many using worn cloth,single bucket system and one cloth for many cars.....that is why I don't trust those cash wash centre.

And how many would exactly wash car after rain Irvine malaysia's weather. U know I know. That is mr choong recommended once a week intervals. Speaking of that, I find that some ppl just love to shoot at people and giving unrealistic advice...

I still see water beading. Just that it is not as good as before and disappointed because it is just few months. Also, water mark is difficult to remove even with frequent wash and clay. When u don't clay, water mark and foreign contaminant is not easily removed with just normal wash.

This post has been edited by Termibait: Mar 1 2013, 08:49 AM
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post Mar 1 2013, 03:59 PM

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Wiping off after rain is even worse as dirts are already on the paint surface. U will create more scratches....
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post Mar 3 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(sierraglow @ Mar 1 2013, 09:11 PM)
Hi Termibait, Wowwww! Sorry to learn that after you have clay bar your car and become sticky and get dirty faster. Glad if you can contact me to arrange a date so that I can rectify the problem for you. Be glad if you can let me know more detail when you are using the clay bar.
1. IPA need to be diluted to a ratio of 1:1 with water, it cannot be use concentrated.
2. What normally use when using a clay bar? Water or shampoo?
3. How much pressure do you use when claying?
4. What sort of dirt are you referring to, that your car get dirty faster?
5. Did the car surface condition smoother after clay bar?
Thank you. Hope to hear from you.
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Mr choong, thank you for your concern on this.

To answer your question.
1. I was not told that ipa has to be diluted with water when I got it from you.
2. You did not say use shampoo to clay bar too.(when you demonstrate, u say just wet the surface.
3. It's very light pressure unless water mark/stain is too visible.
4. Dust accumulated on paint surface.
5. It's smooth as I have been washing car almost 1-2 times a week.

I appreciate if could have a look at the car somewhere this week. Pm me your available date and time. I will make a trip to your shop.

Regards
Termibait
post Jun 17 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 16 2016, 05:19 AM)
Got 5 years warranty, just call them make appointment they should do it back for you..
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Its 5 years warranty but the effect last only about 1 year. I sent my car in for 2 times. Gave up after that..
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post Jun 17 2016, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 17 2016, 06:46 PM)
May I know why u give up?
After 1 yr, ur car still shining?
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8 months after 1st coat. I went back for warranty claim. Whoke car was recoated. 2nd coat last about 1 year also. I was really taking care of the car. Wash weekly as recommended. Use alchohol to wipe as recommended too. Parked under roof too. Bought shampoo for them too. But it did not lasts long. Tired of care taking the coat after that. Car looks old due to cant polish. In the end, cant withstand the ugly old look, decided to send car for polish. The paint immediately turned whitish again and never look back after that. Just wax the car whenever i am free is good enough. Car paint still white and shining.


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post Jun 18 2016, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Jun 17 2016, 11:08 PM)
Use alcohol to wipe??! That's really my first time hearing this. Is that the instruction provided by the car detailing shop?
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Yes. Its recommended by the shop.

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post Jun 20 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(subaru555 @ Jun 20 2016, 11:46 AM)
that's the thing I don't get it with all these so called coatings etc!!!!

After you coat, they advise you to wash your car after rain, wash your car if got bird droppings, this and that wash wash.. If like that, why on earth I need to do coating????? I rather have it normal wax and wash the car as per advised!!!!! doh.gif
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Which is why after 2 years of suffering, i decided to forget about the water beading effect. it is just too troublesome which i have to give up eventually. now i can say i feel more relax even i dont wash my car for 2 weeks.

QUOTE(windskill @ Jun 20 2016, 01:00 PM)
That's weird. Supposedly one shouldn't need to take care the coating with IPA. It just doesn't make sense for the detailing shop to ask you to do that.  sad.gif
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Tell me about it. dry.gif
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post Jun 20 2016, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Jun 20 2016, 03:03 PM)
The primary use of IPA is to remove the oil/residue left from compound/polish product. During paint corrections stage, IPA helps to reveal the remaining paint defects which might be masked by the polish residue. Another use of IPA is to provide a fresh, cleaner surface for coating to bond with prior to coating application.

Unless the coating might suffer premature deterioration due to oil after bonded with the paint, which I have never heard of,  consumer shouldn't need to take extra steps to wipe the coating with IPA.
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Thank you for the detailed explanation. Now i know the reason.

 

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