50mm f/1.8 can be walkaround lens, altough can be quite tight since the on APS-C size sensor, the range need to X 1.5 or 1.6.

But but 50mm f/1.8 is cheap, can consider it because when you go in low light condition, your kit lens maximum aperture at 18mm is 3.5, you'll suffer in low light, worst when you zoom cause the aperture will stop down. When you want to take portrait with nice bokeh, you'll struggle with your kit lens and you can't get a good result like those primes.

Anyway, it's just additional option for you since it's just top up a little more; You should ask the shop let you try it then you will see the BIG difference and know what I mean. Haven't try you wouldn't know. Once tried, then you will know whether you want it or not. Most of the time, people will be amazed with prime lens.


True, but the 50mm f/1.8 is cheap, can consider get one should be no problem. There will be time when he go into low light place, or events, dinner, birthday party, open house, etc. All these, the kit lens he will struggle, even worst if he zoom in which increase the aperture. Imagine the maximum aperture is f4 or f5 when zoom longer, and since zoom the shutter need to compensate for it, only option is to increase the ISO which will sacrifice the quality/details of the picture already.
When using prime lens, can shoot at f2 ~ f2.8, ISO can be keep low while getting correct/good exposure.

Yup, need faster card, the 16GB Sandisk Extreme III SDHC is good enough (especially if record movie), less than RM180 I think.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Dec 10 2010, 11:06 PM

Yup, 50mm very tight become for APS-C size sensor, it become medium telephoto, which is good for portrait shots. The 24mm or 35mm lens is better for ASC-C size sensor but the price

Still for the price, the 50mm f/1.8 is a very good choice for those tight on budget, and very useful in low light situations like birthday party, open house, events, dinner, wedding dinner, etc. My friend shoot in wedding dinner using ONLY the 50mm f/1.8, enough already, no need use flash at all, can get good exposure and nice shots, another friend of his using kit lens, struggling there and ask why he cannot get the result like his. Only thing is, with prime lens, he need to move a lot.

Even for KLIMS, I see many pros using prime lens only, like 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.4. Some using those fixed aperture zoom lens, which is far far better than kit lens, but price also beautiful.

Suppose to go tomorrow, but my friend still unsure

Yup, 1.4 really nice. Did you watch DigitalRev latest comparison for f/1.8 and f/1.4 and f/1.2? Nice bokeh~

The aperture really lots of difference loh. If take at f4 compare to take at f2... at same shutter speed, to get good exposure, the ISO need to increase a lot, really sacrifice the detail and quality of the picture. Imagine ISO 800 VS ISO 2000++
Using 18-55mm kit lens, at 18mm the maximum aperture is f3.5; If zoom into 35mm, the maximum aperture is f4? at 55mm the max aperture is f5.6, gone case in low light.

Wah, so nice.... someone borrow you the lens; So nice your friend

Get Raynox close up filter

Heng,

You can try watch this for roughly the starter kit you can get; a zoom + prime lens is a good combination to have especially since the 50mm f/1.8 is cheap, for low/tight budget, it's a good choice.

This is the skill of GRANDMASTER
Doesn't matter what camera

Attend SIFU aspire photography course; Not sure still on or not. I remember last time Crsy_Crys wanna attend.

LoL, not ask you to see the price; Ask you to see what to get for starter kit.

Depend on your budget and choose your equipment. If you have 3K budget, you can consider the 50mm f/1.8; Not necessarily you buy, but you can try it out at the shop, take some picture at aperture f1.8, f2, etc. See the difference with your kit lens, you will notice straight away, the quality, the sharpness, the speed, etc. It's priceless compared to the kit lens. The kit lens only 2 thing good, which is wide range and zoom or versatility.

Yup, that's why you're GRANDMASTER SIFU. I got a lot to learn from you, I just newbie in photography; only read a lot on it only, so consider is technical knowledge, not practical knowledge.

Attend aspire photography course loh. Forget d?

16GB SDHC Sandisk Extreme III enough, should be less than RM180. You're not going to keep the photo inside the card until it full right? Transfer it to your PC or other storage loh, save the money on the card. 32GB SDHC Extreme III almost double the price, not worth.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1402252

Sandisk Class 6 SDHC card EXTREME III 30MB/S
4GB - RM72
8GB - RM116
16GB - RM173

Wah, GRANDMASTER SIFU unleash!

SIFU, you must open a photograhy class for N8 members liao

Class 10 seems same speed @ 30MB/s. Not sure what's the difference (maybe the constant speed or both read and write?). But the price not much difference also with Class 6 for 16GB.

Class 4 speed is different, only 15MB/s

Yup, for the fireworks, if not wrong, it's playing with shutter speed, the shutter speed will be open for long, like 1 second or more I think, depending the effect of firework you want to capture; The problem is the timing and estimating where the fireworks will pop, etc.

Depend on situation. If you need fast shutter speed and the aperture is at maximum or desired aperture, you can't get correct exposure, then you need to resort to ISO; Usually ISO should be the last option.

For the fireworks, it's not really about ISO, it's actually underexpose if I'm not wrong, because you want to capture only the fireworks. Higher exposure, the firework will be too bright. Need SIFU aspire to confirm this.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Dec 11 2010, 12:22 AM

Cannot use auto-focus, use manual focus and set the focus to infinity.

Actually the main reason I think is the equipment/lens. If you switch brand, all your lens also need to sell

For GUI/interface, controls, etc actually for SAME brand, also got difference. Especially different range model. When go pro range, usually it will not have those basic function and it's more about controls. Plus, sometimes, they switch the buttons here and there from different range.

Yea, some people play multiple brand


Get the black one with RED ring, macam Canon "L" lens

This one @ Aeon Jusco Bukit Tinggi Klang? So empty one, nobody? And this decoration not yet complete time?