If u disagree then whats ur basis?

IMHO, its not that hard to get into. the criteria is not whether if u have phd or masters, but its more on their own staff turnover. lol.

just make sure ur english is acceptable, and your off!

not really. IMHO, no amount of health supplement can ever replace the goodness of sleep itself. Its all about the endurance.

Its my first year, and I've made it through a hellish 1 month where every single night me n my team mates go back at 3-4am average.

Not to mention, every single weekend we were working our asses off. There was even that single night where we put up until 10am THE NEXT MORNING.

Why? all to satisfy our partners demands. Always make last minute requests and contradict themselves when they always emphasize on avoiding late working hours, inefficiency etc.

The word DIE here, to me isn't really because you go on for hours and hours without sleep, and finally ur body collapses.

But its more when u drive on the road. with that lack of sleep.

Well, IX is generally a category where if ur an IX, then u get to try different companies under different types of industries(first 3 months do FS, then do EUMI)

In my case, I am labelled IX, but I'm effectively a EUMI person. When I opt for Oil & Gas, i did O&G all my life and didnt get to try anything else. Thats because my team mates emphasize on the term 'core' team member. So, it doesn't really fulfill the definition of Industry EXPLORER. Not that I mind tho. Coz Oil n gas is what i want to do. and yes, all my assignments had been with one and one client only. And by choice also, I opted to not be a part of IX from the beginning(altho being labelled as one only for record purposes)

hmm.. yeah we do have all those lunch and dinner breaks. However, when it comes to dinner, i always pack since lunch, and do not follow my team mates out, because they take hours for dinner. Dinner break is flexible really. nothing to say how long u can take. in fact, its outside working hours anyway. It all comes down to how much work left do u need to do. In my case, I always want to finish work quickly so i have quite a fast dinner.

yeah, im not joking about accidents. my colleague sudah kena. my senior kena until terbalik kereta. even myself, even x penah kena, i find myself swaying my car left and right on the highway. its a dangerous job.

ya la.. its like, work is already done. but some people just feel its wrong to not do work until the very signing date. so they tend to create much more problems, and do additional work here n there, sum more partners also tell to do this do that. one can never say they could ever finish touching the audit file until the very signing date. which is ridiculous but is happening.

the freshies, pretty much like when i was one, knew the fact of how horrid it is, but one can never truly know until they FEEL it themselves.

NONETHELESS, WE TRY TO SURVIVE THE 3 YEARS REQUIREMENT. Hoping that in the end, it does bear that fruit.

This post has been edited by noonies_naruto: Jul 31 2013, 09:09 AM

nope. not at all.

its a big distinction between having a CA title, against 3 yrs exp in Big 4.

employers go crazy about it.

eh, Big 4 sure looking for people like u la. turnover is so damn high and it significantly applies to those whos stayed 3(for CA title) or 4 years( to clear their bond with big 4)

seems u do have that enthusiasm to work in audit line despite its many horrors.

I'm pretty sure u'd get the job with ease. U definitely gonna get Executive Senior level or higher

P/S: please.. please please don't settle for junior position.

I don't think so. If u specialize in a certain industry, say banking/insurance, won't it still be able to provide value to your future employer?

makes u a lot more marketable anyways. for example, if you've done audit in a specialized industry and had been familiar with most of the common internal controls surrounding that particular industry, won't that make ur chances a lot better?

Because auditors are always pressured by how messy accounts are, they are trained to offer best practice solutions. maybe not in the operation side of things, but definitely from the finance side of things.

STAFF TURNOVER is the biggest problem audit firms are facing, i think

where do u see urself in 5 years time?

never felt so free in my entire life (coz freedom snatched for the past 6 months )

urghhh..

after such a long break since puasa month..

tomorrow is finally work again...

hell no..

havent felt monday blues for such a long time

juz go for EY,

they care about their employees rather than their budget, if my fren is correct

id say working in ANY audit firm is stress.

but at least EY is more fair in rewarding you with compensation time leave.

plus, i think EY's method of appraising their employees are less strict than PwC.

I also heard that KPMG, their clients once described them like this,

"if u just want an audit to get done, then choose KPMG"

In terms of us peons, that would sound better, meaning u dont do too much extra redundant work like other firms are doing

in order to deliver that invisible term, value.

im already a year in big4 since 2 days ago... phewwww...

another 2 to go? at this point, im already thinking a lot if i want to keep on with this...

but most of the time, i just ignore that conflict, and just pretend like il be here for the rest of my life.. lol

both. work always keeps me until late, my boss is a dicckk and... i dont think that 3 years thing is really that fantastic..


just get the efficient one. besides, who cares about all this friendliness etc when the job keeps being delayed becoz of inefficiency

ermm.. i dont think according to the question, there was even a choice for both

if both should be the answer, might as well not even ask coz everybody would've wanted both attributes.

A question for uncles,

I'm in my second year right now and planning to leave right at the end of it.

Will have to pass the 3rd year due to 'inconveniences' that I could foresee in the future, being a senior (if ever get promoted) in a team where the partner is pretty difficult to manage must suck so badly. On top of that, none of my other seniors will be there either, leaving me alone.

But I'd still like to put my resume as 3 yrs big 4 working exp, what say if i switched to Advisory for my 3rd year, can I still put my work exp as 3 yrs in Big4? can I even get the ACCA membership title with a 3rd year in advisory?

I've seen some people, leaving assurance at the last of their 2nd year and going into advisory. That kinda interests me~

and then finish advisory one year, I chow la.

This post has been edited by noonies_naruto: Oct 12 2013, 11:07 PM

they pick according to turnover la..

the bigger turnover, the lower the standards and the criteria that has to be fulfilled. lolololol

FUUHHH 1k allowance mang!!!!

i thought they'd just pay u peanuts for intern??

they might but that certainly wont straight away spell rejection.

The first and foremost thing they look at is ur control in ENGLISH.

objective is to employ staff who can communicate with their client.

(im from uitm shah alam )

This post has been edited by noonies_naruto: Oct 14 2013, 05:03 PM

what would be the procedures if i am 2 yr audit in big 4, then 3rd year wanna go into advisory? wud it be advisable to jump ship to different big 4 or stay same big 4?

Yeah, i dun care about the downgrade.. not like i plan to stay any longer than 3 years anyways

wah 3.6 not bad hoh.

Hows the working times? crazy like audit also? or not bad?