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pyroboy1911
post Dec 3 2010, 02:07 AM

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What's the problem this idiot had with Qatar anyway? rolleyes.gif

Sure, the heat is crazy in summer, u can barely breathe properly. But infrastructure wise, they are more than ready. Some sporting events they held including annual Tennis competition with the likes of Federer and Nadal playing, 2006 Asian games, and the soon to be 2011 Asian Cup (which I have the chance to watch soon hehe). Plus, MU's decision to choose Doha as one of their training location last year shows what they have. If South Africa can virtually change a nowhere into a soccer city, why not Qatar do similar with what they already have?

I personally prefer Australia coz my long term plan is to finish study and work in Australia (personally easier for me to attend WC), bur Qatar isn't that bad themselves. Having visited Qatar every year since my family is there due to dad's working commitment, I don't see why this Carloz dude are being such an ass about Qatar. Dun like the country coz of personal problem, fine but go on and insult the flag etc is pure stupidity that rednecks display.

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post Dec 3 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(rEDs @ Dec 3 2010, 02:14 AM)
baru balik dari souque waqif.tak habis2 main hon kereta dgn vuvuzela geng2 ni....doha agak sesak mlm ni
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bro, still gonna work there onot after 12 years? tongue.gif
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post Dec 3 2010, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 3 2010, 07:25 AM)
Luv to see some cretins here eg pyroboy acting all righteous & Shyte like a Qatar fanboy who doesn't even understand what a banter is.

Guess wat? At least I'm talking bout Qatar but here u r insulting other forummers. Grow up homer & stop being a pompous ass urself
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Lol now butthurt from my comment laugh.gif

This guys reli emotionally unstable rolleyes.gif dei, stop being such an emotional wreck and chin up when something doesn't go your way, instead of lying on the floor and throwing tantrums like a 4 year old girl doh.gif

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post Dec 3 2010, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 3 2010, 08:35 AM)
The one butthurted is you, fanboy. Stop jacking off on Peter Chao's gf and learn to reciprocate properly to a banter next time.

Just because you went sanddunning in Mesaieed and had a little stroll on curvy Corniche on a Sat afternoon, doesnt mean you know the country very well. You should go and ask ur pops how's life in Doha before making yourself look like a fool with your comments. Comprende?
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whatever you say pal rolleyes.gif

the fact is everyone here know's who's the real person who butthurt so needless to say more rolleyes.gif

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post Dec 3 2010, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(arvil22 @ Dec 3 2010, 08:47 AM)
what wrong with the venue , a true quality team must face the challenge anywhere anytime ,if a team only able to win in home or own continental is that a true champion ?
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what's wrong with the venue is the flag looks like a zipperhead. Said by someone who knows Qatar well, so it must be true laugh.gif

To be honest i'm sad that Australia didn't win it sad.gif What more, it seems like Aussie only got 1 vote in the first round, behind Korea and Japan who had 3! Australia were second favourites behind Qatar, no idea why the exco doesnt buy into Australia's campaign.

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post Dec 3 2010, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 3 2010, 11:47 AM)
The difference with Qatar if you forget the demographic and climate factors I mentioned is culture. You can't spend money to ensure they have a more liberal view on women by then. You can't spend to ensure they don't descriminate against Jews. Will any amount of money guarantee that booze will be permitted in the streets? Culture and religion in that region has done it's best to withstand the change that time brings. I am not confident that hosting the World Cup will suddenly mean this process will be sped up. The atmosphere at the World Cup contributes a great deal to the whole tournament. What kind of tournament would it be if everyone were wrapped up, not permitted in public viewing places without family, not permitted to hug the opposite sex when celebrating a goal and not allowed to drink when rejoicing?
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i think u're confused between Qatar and Saudi Arabia, u dont have to be wrapped up in Qatar, nor are u forbidden to hug in public (PDA is another different issue). Unlike Saudi, non-local women can even wear tight fitting shirts and jeans around, though not encouraged but certainly not punishable. Plus going out with family is not frowned upon as well. Besides, FIFA's policy is to bring football to different cultures around the world, not finding cultures that suit the typical western football. Drinking is another issue i guess, but like i said, we are bringing football to different parts of the world to different cultures, not changing cultures of different people to suit "stereotypical" english version of football. And i'm pretty sure drinkings will be allowed to some extend, maybe there's a "alcohol" and "non-alcohol" section? And about the Jew thing, that's a political problem. the issue with Israel is the same even if the WC is held in Malaysia. I think many here fear the Arabic culture, but my point is, it's the main purpose of FIFA innit, to expose the world to different cultures and religions. If every venue is required to do what the typical English do for football, might as well hold it in England every single time.

The main and biggest problem i can think of is the heat, even at night the temperature can reach 30 degrees, and the humidity is intense, making it difficult to breath, and the air does feel heavy. i can see a lot of players struggling to catch their breathe. At least they've got 12 years to figure out what to do with this.

Personally i don't fancy Qatar as well, as i would have preferred Australia. But what's done is done, i think instead of highlighting the disadvantages now, it's better to discuss on what can be done on it. Every of the contenders have their shortcomings, for example the thing with USA, people will complain they still call it "soccer". Korea and Japan, complain about how recent they've just held one. Australia people will complain about timing and all. The best thing to do now is to witness and discuss how Qatar can improve whatever disadvantages they may have. It's not like they are gonna hold it next year, 12 years is a long time!

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post Dec 3 2010, 12:41 PM

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well you can either take a description from someone who is obviously hating Qatar, or from my view on my numerous visits in the past 4 years as a VISITOR. Of course some of them are not so positive, for example it is true the high class Qataris doesnt really mingle with the others, but that's stereotypical; my dad has a local Qatari colleague who is super friendly, according to him.

and in terms of Middle East cities opening to foreigners, i think Dubai ranks no1, and Doha is easily 2nd or 3rd in that list. Look at Qatar as a little more conservative version of Dubai. the freedom is roughly the same, but minus the bad influence such as prostitution and drugs that is quite prominent in Dubai. I would hate to visit if the strictness is anywhere near Saudi Arabia.

PS: Qatar Internet blocks porn site, if that is considered as an disadvantage as well laugh.gif

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post Dec 4 2010, 08:06 PM

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NO WAY will a World Cup be held in january. What, all major league paused for World Cup? or resume, and let 10 of their 1st team players go for World Cup? 1 for African Nations Cup, and a few for this coming Asian Cup already leave premier league managers fuming, a january World Cup will cause a World War 3!

Like i said the main problem is heat, but doesnt mean its a joke. Dont tell me just because its not ideal, World Cup would never ever be played in Arab soil? For all you know they might build a giant glass dome within the 30km stadium radius, which is fully airconed laugh.gif anything can happen in the next 12 years, so we just wait patiently. Cant use the scenario now to predict 12 years from now.
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post Dec 5 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 5 2010, 02:01 PM)
The heat and humidity will definitely be an issue for players and fans but if you think about it, African and South American players have to play in temperature 10-15 degrees below what they are accustomed to. Same goes for Scandanavian countries when they play is South America or Asia. At one point Rio was the hottest city on earth at 40 degrees celcius. The climate has always been a factor.

Another challenge has popped into mind. Out of Qatar's population, only some 200,000 are Qatari. Most are foreign workers and I'm guessing it's because Qataris are of "high society" and don't perform manual work. With the huge influx of fans, where are all the bus or cab drivers, construction workers, cleaners etc going to come from? More foreign imports? It will be like being in a can of sardines there.
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dont worry, apart from the city central, the whole lot of the country is land, land and more land laugh.gif Though it will need strategic and careful planning to avoid congestion.
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post Dec 5 2010, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(katnl @ Dec 5 2010, 06:14 PM)
man, pyro and volrath. you both should stop following each other around just to back each other up in arguments. how gay is that? this isn't highschool man, grow up. you and your mob mentality. if you're gonna join the discussion, bring in some valid points yeah? first the Chelski thread and then here. you both are really wannabe mods, man. is it so important to you? and pyro, just cos' you go around acting polite when you're really not, doesn't mean everyone is the same as you. shall I quote you in here, brat?

be a man, say it like you mean it. don't be a wimp, just to score some bonus points with the mods or whatever. even a red scum has the guts. and you both, a devil and chelski. heh, new generation of "fans" indeed.

so carry on the banter. Qatar? who cares? FIFA is inept as it is.
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i really have no freaking idea what drugs u're on mate.

EDIT: Oh now i get it, the butthurt Everton fan laugh.gif carry on, quote here. I have no worries, coz i dont think what i said is wrong. go on, quote. let everyone see what you said, and why Chelsea fans are angered, and why i dont think going around trolling, especially in their own thread, is appropriate. go on, i dare you.

Wanna comeback against what i said, do in Chelsea thread la. why do it here? reli laugh.gif

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post Dec 5 2010, 06:42 PM

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oh wow, my secret revealed! Volrath is my brother in arms, and i really really REALLY wanna be a mod!

oh well, i guess its not important now, people just think i am annoying brat anyway. OOOHhhh~~ *pee in pants*

OK la, not butthurt la. When someone warn you not to use the term "chelski" in Chelsea thread and u retaliate by calling them lot "rudeness sheathed in fake courtesy" and a "bunch of elitist", that's not butthurt. That's just being a man. i get it now rolleyes.gif

bye bye!
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post Dec 5 2010, 07:00 PM

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i have no idea IcyDarling. u can check back the previous page where my secrets are revealed by him, u know being gay with volrath and wanna be mod and all. tetiba kena sucker punch, aiseh...very manly of him wub.gif

I could tell the story in Chelsea thread i guess, but....nah. it'll just be irritating to sensible people like u i guess.
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post Dec 5 2010, 07:14 PM

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cant take the heat, then dont pour oil onto a spark, brada. But i agree, i'll stop here, as long as its not brought up again smile.gif as my nick suggests, i love playing with fire wink.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 5 2010, 07:15 PM)
The allegations that FIFA committee took bribes from Qatar has started to surface...True or not , we dunno yet but i wouldnt be surprised if it happens..

On a side note, i can see Homer just couldnt stop trolling at every thread he stepped in...Give it up kid. Oh wait papa must be working hard in overseas to leave his baby boy running rampant in this forum...
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QUOTE(katnl @ Dec 5 2010, 07:18 PM)
serious note though, I actually like his avatar. it's quite a nice representation of the Mancs, with their "CHAMPEEONS, YOONITED" endless rant. meh.
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its funny how these peoples are the ones that have problems with me huh? regulars in this Qatar thread will know what carloz had posted earlier, and some Chelsea folks will remember the ruckus katnl caused when he entered Chelsea thread and purposely used "chelski" there, much to their bemusement.

And now you just have to start again with the United jibe eh? wrong move mate, my mobs will come and sappork me rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 5 2010, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 5 2010, 07:15 PM)
Give it up kid. Oh wait papa must be working hard in overseas to leave his baby boy running rampant in this forum...
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 5 2010, 07:24 PM)
but no potrait can hide the fact that a troll is a troll.
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In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion


When a troll calls someone else troll, it makes that troll a hypocritical troll biggrin.gif

haha thank god my exam finish, got time to sit in front of com and be a keyboard warrior for a while.
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post Dec 9 2010, 05:54 PM

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Haha funny article biggrin.gif

BTW, does anyone remember the reaction when South Africa was named WC10 host? i mean, after the voting what is the public reaction like? issues such as poor country, money could be better spend than "build stadium", high crime rates etc, were they mentioned?

I cant recall reading any of those articles back then, heck i dont even remember when are they voted. so need someone to enlighten me tongue.gif Coz wanna compare the reaction then, and the reaction to Qatar now. is it as controversial? and the extend of South Africa's committee to turn those criticism into a succesful WC, and compare it to maybe how Qatar can surprise as well hmm.gif
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post Jan 9 2011, 12:31 AM

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i heard that Qatar's team is taking the same initiative as our malaysian team, ie. playing a bunch of young players together so they can bond and gel to play better. whether or not that will be succesful, we gotta wait and see.

 

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