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Maxieos
post Jun 3 2011, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 3 2011, 10:10 PM)
720p on 22" (1080p) still stretch but at least it's better than 480p, using a good codec + good rendering software and player will make watching 720p on full HD monitor better than those don't.
I myself using CCCP (google it) and Zoom Player (now they offer free version on 8 RC2), configure to use EVR rendering on Zoom Player will smoothen the graphics when you stretch your movie to full screen on Windows 7, and not pixelate.
If you're very choosy when watching movie on full HD monitor then you should find only 1080p movie to enjoy, that for sure will not disappoint you.
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Using K-lite code pack fully on window 7 which configuration is the best ? Even on .avi file ?
As for smplayer backend mplayer , using libavcodec , not much option for h264 .
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post Jun 4 2011, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 4 2011, 07:40 AM)
I don't trust K-lite codec as they have problem which many people complains, so I personally avoid it. If you want to, try different player instead, Zoom Player? or MPC.
Always use the native resolution, as the pixel dots is smaller than your 19" so expect smaller details as well, some people even refer this as sharper? doh.gif
Anyway just adjust yourself to it and you'll feel better eventually, you'll need to lean back though when you game or watch movie in full screen to enjoy them.
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Using MPC with K-lite codepack (FFdshow)

QUOTE(Damonzero @ Jun 4 2011, 09:33 AM)
Yes, avoid K-Lite codecs if possibles, the extensions in system32 folders will easily deleted by ccleaner and some av software.

Use MPC.
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? any reason unsure.gif ? I think I miss out those code pack discussion .


Added on June 4, 2011, 9:50 pmK-lite is quite update "Updated: 30 Mar 2011" while CCCP is at last year "Updated: 10 Oct 2010"
Does old code pack player better on higher code pack ?

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post Jun 7 2011, 12:12 AM

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How well is the viewing angle on u2311h compare with 2209wa and also LG 23inch TN panel monitor ?
Heard that dell u2311h got a lot of dead pixel reported.
What's the warranty policy for dead pixel ?
worry about this too
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post Jun 7 2011, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Jun 7 2011, 12:34 PM)
Viewing angle wise 2209WA > U2311H > (Any TN panel)
U2311H dead pixels warranty is 6+1 according to one of the forumer here, means a total of 6 dead + 1 stuck pixel able to claim 1-on-1 exchange warranty, but with even 1 stuck pixel you able to claim warranty of which is the premium panel warranty quality.
From my experience of following the threads till now only 3+ people complains, and uncountable of people already owning this monitor (U2311H) so I think its defective rates are still considered as good.
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Sorry to ask again unsure.gif , I am quite concern on viewing angle .I never seen before a IPS panel and all the while using TN panel .
Comparing both 2209WA > U2311H the baby face, is it same as this website claim ? http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=...52&p2=8953&ph=1

and vs TN panel , is it really as good as it be ? on the baby face ? http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=...52&p2=8953&ph=8

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post Jun 7 2011, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jun 7 2011, 11:20 PM)
This is an example of an IPS panel's ( U2311H ) viewing angle versus a TN panel's ( BX2231 ) viewing angle ( my test ) :

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Oh , so the front with window XP taskbar is your TN samsung BX2231 and the back is Dell U2311H ?
Thank you for the picture notworthy.gif

And other question , at some website forum , they mention that
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U2311H has a 6-bit+AFRC panel.
The 2209WA has a 8bit one.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1584593

What does that mean ? , it's a 6bit IPS panel ? unsure.gif
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post Jun 11 2011, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Jun 8 2011, 07:30 AM)
In other word U2311H is inferior to 2209WA in specs? I think somebody have compared 3 Dell monitors side by side before this, I can't remember which pages. The color of 2209WA is much better than U2311H.
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Can you recall which website or lowyat member compare 3 dell monitor ?
Is it this one ? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry42235538
QUOTE(Ulysses @ Jun 8 2011, 08:06 AM)
6bit version of IPS & 8bit version of IPS...8bit panel is true IPS panel while the 6bit panel IPS is watered-down version of true 8bit
...like TDUenthusiast said
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So e-IPS also watered-down from H-IPS U2140 ?
QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Jun 8 2011, 09:43 AM)
hmm.gif. It looks it could be true that the Dell U2311H  be a 6 bit panel with A-FRC. However, such information doesn't seem to be confirmed.
Well, if that's the true, then yes, the U2311H is not as good as the 2209WA since the 2209WA has an 8 bit panel while the U2311H has a 6 bit panel. An 8 bit panel can display more colors than a 6 bit panel.
That wasn't what I said. The 2209WA is apparently also using an e-IPS panel, but an 8 bit panel. Oh, and please do not simply relate any statements to me without any proof.  sweat.gif
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I am not sure , hardware sg forum also did mention on recent found http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?t=3240060
http://hardforum.com/archive/index.php/t-1518544.html

This forum user also confirm it's 6 bit http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry42235538
QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 8 2011, 12:47 PM)
very simple. u know old windoze can put 16color, 256 color, high color(16bit), true color(32bit)
RGB (red green blue) is main channel for computer monitor. 3 color X 8bit per channel =24bit.
since computer do calculation faster on even number (2,4,6,8,10), so unker bill decided to add a null channel become 4 X8bit =32bit rclxms.gif
reference
2311 is confirmed using 6bit per channel with new frame rate control technology to overcome the weakness of its type
its true that 8bit can display more color (color bit??) & natural gradient
2209 is first eips from dell, still pretty good for ultrasharp family

hahaha kena quoted brows.gif
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I am getting more confuse , compare with those panel , why dell advertise it as ips ? since ips is a 8 bit panel ?
So you mean Dell falsely advertise or trick customer that it's having 8 bit panel ?
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Besides , wanted to ask , what the height can be adjust for those dell ultra sharp monitor ? 23 inch ?
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post Jun 12 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 11 2011, 03:07 AM)
@maxi
1. youtube got alot. go youtube see
2. not water down, it is new generation thing
3. simple, can u differentiate 262k & 16M hanphone screen?
4. just a general name, no need to be specific all the time
5. height adjust & usb hub are essential for office use. ibm, dell & hp business class lcd have them since long time ago. approximately under eye level to above eye level

@racerx
did u test da rainbow pic in web browser (which have software dithering)??
6bit screen with frc should flick or else give line line line when u use proper picture viewer
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Thanks a lot for the answer nod.gif
QUOTE(Racerx @ Jun 11 2011, 03:07 AM)
IPS isn't about the panel being an 8bit panel or a 10bit panel or a 6bit panel,instead it's called that way because the crystal molecules inside the panel move parallel to the panel plane instead of perpendicular to it thus the name [In Plane Switching]

It's true that the U2311H/IPS236V/ML239H's panel is a 6bit +AFRC panel so theoretically it isn't as good as an 8bit eIPS panel like the one in the 2209WA ,but you can see there's tonnes of reviews on the net about the U2311H and the 2209WA.
I had the same reservation as you're having right now for the last 2 weeks but in the end i decided to get another U2311H instead of the 2209WA because well,overall the U2311H is better.Higher resolution,smaller footprint,Dell warranty,slightly better contrast ratio .Yeah it's 6bit+AFRC and yeah the viewing angles are smaller,but in the end  there's little to no colour banding at all and the viewing angles are still good even if it's not downright outstanding.


Added on June 11, 2011, 3:13 am

I used Picasa,Paint,Windows Photo Viewer.All gives no flickering.With the "Standard" preset the colour transitions are smooth,other presets and you can see the colour 'bleed' into one another.
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I went to wiki for LED and IPS panel reading but it's too technical for me to understand rclxub.gif .Need someone to summarize.I though U2311h will have some color banding since it's 6bit + AFRC which is not 8bit ? .
Btw , saw someone post the latest dell U2312HM , which is a W-LED with NTSC > 80% .What does that mean ? Colour same as our NTSC CRT tv format ?
I can't find much google search on W-LED e-IPS 6bit+ AFRC vs CCFL E-IPS 8bit

Found some database for those panel but still rclxub.gif
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/2...m#colour_depths

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