Hi, i currently suffer from moon face problem and according to my doctor, i got few keloid scars on my face. And i knew most of you will said that there is already a lot of this kind of thread been posted before. I did read through them...

However, those were old thread and some of the doctor was from good to bad... something like that. That's why i wanna get the latest 2010 of good skin specialist for laser treatment on my problem.

I heard
Dr.Christina in USJ

Dr Rajit in SS15

Dr Edwin Chang in Sunway

Dr Ko in Klang

From the above list, i heard them from the previous thread that they are good dermatologist or skin specialist , however , i heard most of them were money minded and give customer bad services ...

So may i know which dermatologist or skin specialist around KL or Subang/Sunway/USJ area that are not really money minded and provide excellent service and ofcourse effective treatment for the acne scars. Not money minded mean their service charge was reasonable and not over price. I also like to listen to your recommendation on other areas and also out from the list where i state. Thank you.

I would recommend Dr. Ko from Klang. Used to be their patients there and they are quite nice and friendly to the customers. When I was a student, Dr. Ko personally reduced the medical fee for me. No doubt some of their products can be slightly expensive but they are worth it.

Reduce by how much?

A few hundred. I would say cheaper by RM100 - RM200. Dr. Ko personally told the nurse to reduce the price for me but did not state the figure. The nurse will then reduce about RM100 - RM200. That was years ago.

SO in the end how much was the bill for you?

why the doctor didn't give me offer since i am a student?
r u any datuk's son?

i just went for dr.ko 4 days ago(tues)...

i was consulted by a beautician (grace teh) at 1st...
then i was bring to dr.ko for awhile...he just explain few things to me abt the medicine and sign to approve the medicine gave by beautician...
then i was brin to laser treatment by a guy (4get to ask his name but i guess he is not a doctor)

total bill is Rm520
RM240 for a month medicine(isotretinon and antibacterial)
RM80 for acne lotion...
RM200 for laser treatment (RM10 per shot)

this is what i have been through...

comment:
my skin condition is not that bad...just oily skin and some acne scar left over...
they give me isotretinon to control the oil...i think this is a must for every patient because this 'drugs' can cure most of the skin problem...
for antibacterial medicine,i dun think its neccessary for me because i seldom have acne now...even i have i also can use the acne lotion from them...
about the laser treatment,it is RM10 per shot...due to not much cash i holding,i tell them to set the treatment at Rm200...

the result will be given after 1 month....
i din see any obvious results now except skin start drying...

This post has been edited by winter-X: Nov 20 2010, 01:49 PM

I'm not a datuk son and etc. Just humbly tell them that I'm still a student and can you reduce the price for me. Remember to only tell this to Dr. Ko since he has the authority to reduce prices. If you did not open your mouth, they will charge you accordingly.

I've been to their laser treatment once. No immediate result. The result can only be seen after several weeks. I would say about 2-3 weeks. Since you have oily skin, did Dr. Ko prescribe any pinkish medicine to be eaten? Use to control your oily skin.

From what i heard, Dr Ko's staff very money minded and look down on other people. Instead of Dr Ko or other doctor , the nurse will do the treatment for you. And i also heard their staff attitude was very bad... and often also over expensive than other clinic.

I'm not too sure whether they are money minded or not. But what I'm pretty sure of is that their medicine and service will cost you alot. I don't mind paying as they produce result. And when your case is not serious, the nurses will be the one doing the treatment. And it is very diffcult to get discount from them.

I know there's another skin specialist near the Klang river. Above the 7-11 store next to Lian Hup. Their price offered are resonable but never like their product. Never produced result and the doctor kept on trying other medicine on me and risking my skin. It became worse after seeing him. After that, went to Dr. Ko and I start seeing result.

My family (immediate & extended) has been a strong supporter of Dr. Ranjit for many years and he managed to cure their acne problem.

Unfortunately for me his medicines don't seem to work on my acne whether antibiotics or cream.

Do give Dr. Ranjit a try if the others don't work. But his treatment is usually quite expensive (be prepared around RM150 - RM400). And you need to make appointment to see him as his clinic is crowded and full all week.

Even if i make an appointment, i still need to wait for few hours right?

No, with appointment you don't have to wait..

I see. That's different from the LEE specialist that i use to see him in Penang haha.
May i have the contact number of Ranjit clinic ?

Thank you very much.

oh,haha...coz i heard they treat datuk/datin/artist differently...
haih,4get to do that...maybe i will try to do that in nxt my nxt visit...

btw,what laser treatment u do?RM10 per shot?
is the result obvious after several weeks?
because there is one week from the day i do laser...so far not much effect and some of the scar are bleeding and darken...i am worried the laser make my scar worst...
does it really nid so long to see the result?

yeap, that pinkish medicine is RM180 per month...i think it is isotretinon/accutane or so call vitamin A...
but my skin still oily and lips not that dry even i already take the medicine for 1 week...maybe nid longer time to see the effect...

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Added on November 23, 2010, 6:08 pmerm, i heard that too before i went to see them...but i still decide to give him a try...
what ppl said might not same as what u experience...

i think every1 if money minded now...i dont think there is any ppl got money dowan earn even he is doctor/lawyer/engineer...i cant make much comment on this...

yes,the 1 who give me consultation is a beautician...the 1 who do laser for me is a technician i think...
dr.ko only see me for 5 min...

the technician did ask me again whether i got bring enough money anot when i make payment...
i dunno what is that mean for u...some might feel that he is just asking...some may tot he is looking down at u...

everyone have different experience...

i hope u can try oth dermatologist than dr ko because i wan know the different...haha...

This post has been edited by winter-X: Nov 23 2010, 06:08 PM

The result will be obvious after several weeks. The scar won't go away immediately. It'll slowly fade away. Bleeding and darken is a serious issue. I have never experience such thing before. Perhaps you should seek some advice from them. If I'm not mistaken, doctor consultation is FOC. Once went inside to ask some advice, and once done, just walk out.

The pink pill will make your face and lips dry. 1 week should be sufficient to see the result as your face will slowly get dry. May I ask, how often do you take this pill? When I first took mine, it was about 1 in every 2-3days. My skin became really dry and I have to apply moisturizer on my face to keep them wet.

This post has been edited by night: Nov 23 2010, 10:38 PM

I went for Ranjit in SS15 for the past 1 year... the pink pills given is Isotretinoin also known as Roaccutane... it cost me RM200 per box from Ranjit... including his self made anti bacteria cream... for my case he ask me to take one pill everyday for the 1st box... 2nd box alternate days then 3rd twice a week.. then 4th once a week and so on for 6 boxes... and he said the cream has to be applied for your entire lifetime... hence u'll become a loyal customer...

recommended to a friend as well... his condition got better... so was mine... but after i stopped the pills and just applying the cream only, the acne starting to come back... when on the pill max 1 pimple per week only... now everyday 1... guess everyone case is different...

btw he doesnt treat ur scar until u acne problem goes off... so dont expect instant makeover or something...

Same here. I once totally stopped taking those pills and my acne come in one shot. I spoke to the nurse and she told me that there's a method to stop taking those pills and your acne will not come back. First of all, reduce your body dependency on pills to control your acne output. Start by taking twice a week for about a month or so. After that, only take once a week for the next coming month. Once you don't see any acne popping out, reduce your intake to about once in every two week and so forth. The trick here is to tell your body to reduce its dependency on these pills and you should be doing fine after that. These pills don't come cheap. I think it cost about RM5 for one pill.

ya i tried that... i took it once a week for bout 20 weeks... but when the pills is finish, the effect is temporary as well... bout 2-3 weeks was fine then now its bad... but then i didnt apply the cream anymore... cause it causes my skin to become red... it cost bout RM6.67/pill...

now already 1 week but i still cant see the effect...feel like money wasted...
i think i will go visit dr.ko again these few days to get consultant frm dr.ko directly....hope that they wont bring me to beauty consultant again...

they ask me to eat 1 pill every morning after breakfast...if lips too dry can skip for few days...
wah,maybe ur skin not that oily as mine?
untill now i still can feel my face got abit oily,dunno izzit normal...

the medicine at least show some result...but the laser....haih...

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Added on November 25, 2010, 12:12 pmthe cream is a moisturiser?or acne cream?

u eat the pill for how long already?why the acne will come back once u stop?how
if before eating the pill i have less acne,will i getting more acne if i stop eat?(actually doctor give me the pill just to reduce my oil)...

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Added on November 25, 2010, 12:20 pmshould i start doing that?i mean start reducing my dependency on pill?
i think most of u all take pills to prevent acne...but dr.ko give me just to reduce oil...and they ask me to eat everyday?

wah,u get Rm5 for 1 pill ah?i get RM6 for 1 leh...
nxt bottle wan get discount from them dy la...

This post has been edited by winter-X: Nov 25 2010, 12:22 PM

After one week still no result, just wait for a few more week. 1 week is too short. And that's exactly what they have informed me when I first consulted them for my acne problem. Eat everyday and stop eating when lips too dry. And as usual, 1 week is too short. After few more weeks and you'll realize that your skin will not be that oily anymore. But always remember that when your face is less oily, your skin tend to be dry. Use a moisturizer if possible. I remembered Dr. Ko never prescribe me using a moisturizer until I complaint about my dryness.

You only reduce your pill intake once your acne has been controlled. Dr.Ko will never tell you to reduce the pill intake because I'm pretty sure they want you to continue purchasing from them. They only start telling me to reduce the intake after I compaint about the expensive price I'm paying for these pills then only they told me to reduce it. Remember, only reduce the intake SLOWLY and one step at a time. From everyday intake, reduce to probably once in every two days and so forth.

And this pills is used to reduce your face oil. Once you managed to control your face oil, eventually you'll be able to control your acne. Acne is produced when there's an accumulated oil at your skin pores. Therefore, reduce your face oil will help control your acne output as well.

i thought laser can clear my acne scar in short duration since it is costly...then i no choice have to wait loh...
ya,i already got use moisturizer before eating the pill...the beautician also never ask me to buy...

my acne already controlled before i eat pill wor...just my skin is too oily thats why the doctor ask me to eat that pill to reduce oil...i dunno whether should i reduce now or what...maybe another 1 week or 1 month...

You have already controlled your acne? Well, on the safe side, just continue eating as prescribe by the doctor for the next 1 month or so till you can feel that there's less oil coming out from your face. Once you've controlled your face oil, then only slowly reduce the intake.

ya,less acne before i eat pill...
but still got some on right side of my face...everytime also that area...so i scare it will spread over all my face...thats y i went dr.ko...i think it is some kind of internal bacterial...leaving me alot of scar on right side of my face only...
izzit possible to eat until face no oil?or is it better for our skin to produce some oil?

There's few possible reasons to why acne only popped up at your right face. First of all, did you sleep while laying your right side of your face on the pillow? If it is, this could be the cause as our pillow is filled with lots of germs and bacterias that can stimulate acne growth. Adjust your sleeping posture and the best would be your eyes facing the ceiling. Secondly, regularly change your pillow and bed sheet to ensure them clean at all times. I don't think it is internal. If it's internal, it will popped up at every part of your face.

It is not possible for you to eat until your face had no oil. Only eat the pills everyday untill your face oil have reach an acceptable level. Different individual had different level of tolerance. Once you're satisfied, slowly reduce the intake to one pill in every two days.

both side also have wor...i think not cause of pillow because i always keep it clean...

it is something like 1 of the acne are infected by bacteria...and i usually dont squeez it our because it will leave scar...so i just put some acne cream on it and let it cure...but sometimes it become very red bump and at last burst itself and become acne scar...then it will grow on 1 cm below it...and same things happen...
so i wonder izzit the bacteria are still inside my skin because i din squeeze it out so it will keep on infect my skin...
i 4get to inquire doctor about this...but luckily now din happen anymore...

hm,now my face not that oily as before...quite smooth and moist...maybe because i moisture my skin well...
now just the acne scar...do u did oth laser before?like co2 fractional?

btw,did u know any cream can cure scar?i did ask the beautician but she say din have such things...i 4get to ask the doctor...but i did heard got stuff like merderma,bio oil that are available in pharmacy can cure scar...but not so effective...how come dermatologist din have this kind of things?
actually i finding a silicon gel called dermatix...it has good review on the net...but u only can get that frm dermatologist...
quite expensive also...around RM120...recommended by a dermatologist on net...

By the way, any of you has tried the laser treatment of the 3 clinic that i listed? Or other clinic? I want to know whether their laser treatment is good or not and how efficient to cure my scars.

actually mostly acne is an internal problem. somewhere your digestive system no good then your body building up toxin levels too high to handle. they need to come out from your body anyway but your liver cant handle that big amount of workload so it comes out from your skin as acne where the pus formed and nasty stuff.

having a good diet can help in the long run. avoid fast foods, junk food and many unnatural foods(with added chemicals and preservatives). and also eat more vegetables and fruits!

This post has been edited by Kit II: Nov 26 2010, 02:27 PM

The cream is acne cream.. i took the pills for 2 years d i think... couldnt really remember... but i finish the whole course...
i dun think you stop time will suddenly get acne since u have no acne problem before eating... my acne came back i think mostly is because im working night shift now... liver not so productive since i do not sleep at night...

but i suggest u not to take the pill so often as it is proven by articles and my experience that Roaccutane can cause skin to be thinner... read wikipedia and other articles linked to it... my experience is when i went for paint ball... when i got hit, my skin got penetrated easily and leave a permanent scar on my hand... even the owner of the paint ball place said he never see such injuries before since paint ball wouldnt penetrate so much... so its down to my skin... i used to be an active kids who fell alot and stuff when i was young.. i can say that time my skin is not thin.. hehe...

Taking thisl pills will cause your skin to be thinner. Doctor did warned me before that. When you first take these pills, the skin on your face will become dry. Once they get dry, those skin will slowly fall off. The reason behind this was to shed old and damage skin to allow new skin to grow. Somehow, taking these pills too frequent will cause too much skin to fall off.

ya.. my doctor didnt warn me... i learned it the hard way... anything to make skin thicker??! but not thick face??! haha..

The best way that I know so far would be reducing your intake of those pills. Depending on these pills too much can bring more harm than good.

This post has been edited by night: Nov 28 2010, 02:50 PM

i was just following the whole course... finished d... but just that skin permanently thinner cant do anything about it ?? im a guy... must have thick skin... think skin for girls maybe look fairer la...

i went to Dr.Ting in Jln Imbi for skin consultation (skincare products+pills).. i wasnt that consistent on my treatment .. so not much comment..

but i'm interested on laser treatment.. how long will it take to see difference? n how bout the cost?

You should be able to see the effect after 2-3 week but different individual will yield different results. As for the cost of treatment, depend very much on your face as well. If you face had more acne scar, that will cost you more as compare to those who had relatively little acne scar.

but roughly how much eh? maybe mild acne scars.. i think there r many types of laser treatment available.. so what kind of laser available in Dr.Ko?

I do wish to know again on what kind of laser able to treat keloid scars? And how much

i heard that dr ko have the most type of laser in MY from oth forumer...
whether its true or not u guys have to find out urself...
just to let u guys know that i did laser which is RM10 per shot...
i dun satisfy with the result i have now...i totally lost confident on laser treatment...

after i did research on net,i found out that laser not really suitable for asean skin...maybe u guys should look more on microdermabrasion/microneedling/chemical peel which is much more cheaper...

Dr. Chin Shih Choon in Shah Alam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwE2sHM5m_M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7BeLw8vJDI&feature=related

This post has been edited by janica: Dec 4 2010, 03:33 AM

I heard that SkinClub at Menara Hap Seng is good. Check it out!!!

Hi, you can try SkinClub at Menara Hap Seng, Jln P. Ramlee. They're good. Had my treatment there.

hye now KO SKIN SPECIALIST is doing a roadshow at AEON (JUSCO) BKT TINGGI, KLANG for free skin analysis...

i did mine, its FREE of CHARGED..the doc is DR.YIP (MALE) ..he will tells u everything bout your skin conditions...

TOMORROW last day ... 29/01/2011

if ur scars are new, u could try finding aloe vera plant...
apply it on ur face b4 u go to sleep..
it really helps

anyone knows wat is the best among this products???
stieva a , retin a , differin and isotretinon...regardless gel or cream based.

I've recently went to one of dr ko's branches. This is only my personal opinion.
The regular doctor isn't very professional. She's more like doing sales rather than explaining about the acne problems I have.
Her explanations are pretty empty as in I didn't get any input. The only reason I proceed buying their medications is because my friend recommended me that place. Only later I realised there were two different doctors.
All she told me about the isotretinoin pills was: you'll have dry lips and you can't get pregnant. There are no other side effects.
I took in 100% of what she said until I started to do some research on the pills I am taking. The effects are more than what she told me.

My acne isn't very severe and that was my first time taking medication to treat acne. I had lots of doubts but her explanations just weren't informative enought to clear my doubts.

But the pills are pretty effective.

Just a personal experience and opinion.

face scar and acre scar can be remove?
well i have acre scare

@meistsh_musical Depends how bad the scarring is, but it can definitely be helped by over the counter cream or home remedies.