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TSkardock
post Jun 7 2005, 05:46 PM, updated 19y ago

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thread for bassist to share tips and tricks, thoughts and ideas.
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post Jun 7 2005, 05:51 PM

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why not you start off by sharing your tips, tricks, thoughts and ideas ?
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post Jun 7 2005, 07:57 PM

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w00t, low-enders thread in LYN! thumbup.gif

Alrite, since it's empty here...let discuss stuff.

What kind of tone you like? How do u set it?

For me, i'm more into modern tone...i set my bass to full bass and treble but i cut my mid (with the mid boost switch on). At amps, depend on what amp i use, i usually dial it to flat (all EQ at 0). Mid-swepping tone is quite popular among bassist anyway so my tone not really unique hehehe~

My friend shared this tip which shape my setting above. He said that u carry your tone on your bass so you shouldn't depend on the EQ at amps since for most of us, we don't carry our own amps to gigs/shows. So, we should shape out tone mainly from the bass itself.
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post Jun 8 2005, 12:52 AM

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yea...
bassist tthread
hahaha

unlike chapree, i'm into the vintage tone...
getting some dimarzio model j soon... vintage tone...
actually i also prefere my EQ to be flat... really gets the true sound of ur bass out... i've seen some max bass and all... boost all bass,mids,treb... kills everything... doesn't have that original tone to it...
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post Jun 8 2005, 01:26 AM

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just want to ask ... compare bass to rhythm and lead guitar, bass is easier ?

and if want to learn bass from zero, where should we start 1st ? do the bassist need to know those chords like power, full chords for the rhythm ?

thanks all !
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post Jun 8 2005, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(techmax @ Jun 8 2005, 01:26 AM)
just want to ask ... compare bass to rhythm and lead guitar, bass is easier ?

and if want to learn bass from zero, where should we start 1st ? do the bassist need to know those chords like power, full chords for the rhythm ?

thanks all !
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oh boy, this is kinda hard to answer.....you can't say that bass is easier than rhythm and lead guitar or the other way around. It is subjective. It depends on you.

Well, as a bassist......bassist don't play power or full chords like guitarist do but you can play the root note of a chord/scale instead.




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post Jun 8 2005, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(pokute @ Jun 8 2005, 03:53 AM)
oh boy, this is kinda hard to answer.....you can't say that bass is easier than rhythm and lead guitar or the other way around. It is subjective. It depends on you.

Well, as a bassist......bassist don't play power or full chords like guitarist do but you can play the root note of a chord/scale instead.
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oic.. so basically, for a beginner bassist, he needs to learn the scaling right ?
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post Jun 8 2005, 09:29 AM

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for a TOTAL beginner, knowing the root notes is enough i think. no scaling needed. of course, that's for a total newbie lah.
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QUOTE(chapree @ Jun 7 2005, 07:57 PM)
For me, i'm more into modern tone...i set my bass to full bass and treble but i cut my mid (with the mid boost switch on). At amps, depend on what amp i use, i usually dial it to flat (all EQ at 0). Mid-swepping tone is quite popular among bassist anyway so my tone not really unique hehehe~
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you roll off the mid on your bass, AND activate the mid-boost ? Can you explain what is the mid boost actually ?

And big thanks for bassists who roll of their mids, so the guitarist has clear frequencies to play on wink.gif
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QUOTE(techmax @ Jun 8 2005, 01:26 AM)
just want to ask ... compare bass to rhythm and lead guitar, bass is easier ?
and if want to learn bass from zero, where should we start 1st ? do the bassist need to know those chords like power, full chords for the rhythm ?
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QUOTE(modD @ Jun 8 2005, 09:29 AM)
for a TOTAL beginner, knowing the root notes is enough i think. no scaling needed. of course, that's for a total newbie lah.
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As starters, bass is easier than guitar since bass u usually play note by note compared to guitar. But as musicians, u need to know scaling and chords knowledge since it's the basic. I suggest u learn scaling and chords but dun emphasis on it. Main job of bassist is to lay down the groove and keep it going while locking with the drummer, which keeping the tempo. Then comes all those fancy2 thing like slap & pop, tapping, harmonics yada yada

But really, i dun know scaling,modes,whatsoever (my music theory sux d00d, can't remember shiznik!) at all too...i just play root notes all the time hahaha. Knowing your fretboard is the best way thumbup.gif

Just my two cents...from 2 years of bass-ing it out laugh.gif

QUOTE(Pix @ Jun 8 2005, 09:42 AM)
you roll off the mid on your bass, AND activate the mid-boost ? Can you explain what is the mid boost actually ?

And big thanks for bassists who roll of their mids, so the guitarist has clear frequencies to play on wink.gif
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I guess it's easier to explain with this picture

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This is Bartolini MK2 EQ...(1)bass (2)mid (3)treble (4)volume (5)slapswitch
The slapswitch actually will boost the mid...coz slap tone usually have a high amount of mid and then if i turn it off, the mid sounded too weak. So i would actually dial the mid at 0 (can go lower to cut it) and let the slapwitch on.

Hahaha...i'll not letting guitarist go easy...give 'em a low B rattle nyaahahah laugh.gif
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ok... but i guess the mid boost affects also your sound when you're not slapping. Unless you switch it on only when you play slap ?
I'd like to try !
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post Jun 8 2005, 12:55 PM

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complicating la
hahaha
my SX simple..
volume, volume, tone...
i'll deal with these later when i have a bass like this
hahaha
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QUOTE(Pix @ Jun 8 2005, 12:34 PM)
ok... but i guess the mid boost affects also your sound when you're not slapping. Unless you switch it on only when you play slap ?
I'd like to try !
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yah, i use it all the time. Coz if not, the mid will be too weak or muddy for me.
Want to try? No problem...where is your whereabouts?

monny : if this complicated, then check Fender Stu Hamm Signature bass --> http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0191500886 ...with the J/P/J pickup config, a variety of tone waiting for ya! and that's more complicated than my single humbucker config hehehe~

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chapree, i'd like to organize a jam session actually !
in 2 months I'm leaving malaysia, i'd like to do something before that..
i'm in KL/PJ.

so let's say you just add the mids using your mid-knob... + mid boost off... what's the difference with mid-knob rolled off + mid boost on ?
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post Jun 8 2005, 03:49 PM

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Finally got a BASS thread here ..... love to slap and pop
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post Jun 8 2005, 05:37 PM

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ugh...
complicated...
i'll learn that on my next bass
targetting a yamaha RBX774 maybe....
but its gonna a long wait... change my SX pickups first

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QUOTE(Pix @ Jun 8 2005, 03:46 PM)
chapree, i'd like to organize a jam session actually !
in 2 months I'm leaving malaysia, i'd like to do something before that..
i'm in KL/PJ.

so let's say you just add the mids using your mid-knob... + mid boost off... what's the difference with mid-knob rolled off + mid boost on ?
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I'm in Shah Alam/Putrajaya...no far then smile.gif
I'm bad at impromptu jam since my incompetency of music knowledge but i would love to come to watch ur jam man thumbup.gif

Hmm...how to answer this...the tone is a bit different. Checkout the mp3 i posted.
Constant setting are bass and treble which both are dialled to full
midfullboost0 = Full mid, mid boost off
mid0boost1= Flat mid, midboost on

Midfullboost0 tone is more treblish...something like an active P-Bass with tone dialled up to full. Mid0boost1 tone have muddy mid, when u play some muted notes it sound kinda nice hehehe...

If i put mid full and boost on, can get Sting Ray tone wink.gif

By the way, both clip are recorded direct to mic port with Sound Recorder. Built-in laptop sound card anyway...so plz bear with the quality tongue.gif

Guess where the bass riff come from wink.gif

QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jun 8 2005, 03:49 PM)
Finally got a BASS thread here ..... love to slap and pop
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Wazzzup slapper...can u share some tips on slap and pop techniques? thumbup.gif

QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2005, 05:37 PM)
ugh...
complicated...
i'll learn that on my next bass
targetting a yamaha RBX774 maybe....
but its gonna a long wait... change my SX pickups first
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RBX774...i like the design thumbup.gif


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Attached File  mid0boost1.mp3 ( 96.66k ) Number of downloads: 121
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nice samples dude...

im a guitarist...but im rather attracted towards bass sounds that sound...rather stringy..as in played with a pick. my bassist too. we like mark hoppus's sound...mike dirnt's...that trebly springy sound...along with a deep grumbling low end. not so nasal i suppose....
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foooyoh
chapree keng wor....
self lick or existing from song wan ?
hehe
but yea.. see the diff now
but i prefere the tone on the midfullboost0
sounds less muffed
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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Jun 8 2005, 07:44 PM)
nice samples dude...

im a guitarist...but im rather attracted towards bass sounds that sound...rather stringy..as in played with a pick. my bassist too. we like mark hoppus's sound...mike dirnt's...that trebly springy sound...along with a deep grumbling low end. not so nasal i suppose....
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Thanks smile.gif
Woah, so u like pick attack & P-Bass sound...i guess u are punk fan?

QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2005, 08:24 PM)
foooyoh
chapree keng wor....
self lick or existing from song wan ?
hehe
but yea.. see the diff now
but i prefere the tone on the midfullboost0
sounds less muffed
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Haih...where got keng...that riff were from Limp Bizkit - Rearranged laugh.gif


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