just wanna know something

-its was in workin condition
hav u known bout the tweeter being blown n such prior to tis trade?

-wat does ur 3 days personal warranty covers?

Hilmi,please be cool.
But this is how Dt89 felt about you.
I really dont know why and what about this argument for.

Hilmi brother,can i know you gave 3days personal warranty,which i mean warranty on anythin happen's like internal cuircuit stated or rather.
On my every deal,i will see 1st on that item.
Let say electronic or electrical item,only 2-3 days max i will give.
But i just will tell them that personal warranty not covered if the person who handle's the item damage it with or without knowing how to..

But since DT89 already test the item at your place,and it works fine due to heavy techno bass that didnt allow DT89 to review back again on Mid and Tweeter output.

Bringing it to law enforcement not a good idea.
If possible,settle it here.This is LYN dispute thread.
So you guys can defend your self also here.

But Helmi brother,3days personal warranty seems so promising.
But why you dont want to cover it for him(DT89).

My 2 cents:

1) It is not humiliating you Hilmi because you WERE drunk. Its proper facts, evidenced by your friend's reply that you were drunk. Hence it is not humiliating because it is part of TS's side of the story.
2) a personal warranty should not be treated as if it were nothing. a warranty is a warranty.
3) I do agree with you on the refund part, as when a seller lets a buyer test something, and the buyer takes it home, it is reasonable for the seller to be skeptical if there is any problem complained by the buyer after taking it home - thats why theres a warranty, a guarantee.
4) Probably a full refund is not needed but a 50% refund should suffice OR let the buyer provide a receipt of the repairs and you pay half, he pay half.

Cool
Brother Helmi,
If could,please try to settle it here.
After see this thread,he even also defend him self here.
So revealing his information also kinda ummpp..not a good idea,unless Helmi con you with amount of cash and ran away.

So all of us would like to wish DT89 could quote some of his words here on what he think.
As i see,most of forumer who wish to contribute in you guys disputed thread suggestting a 50-50 share on the repair.
But since Helmi also claim that DT89 blew those tweeter and midbass cuircuit . Shall it cover in personal warranty ?
Correct me if im wrong

my pioneer set still hasnt been blasted yet from mid to full volume
i dun wanna waste a few k just to blast it full n mayb left wit some broken items
bt tat is just me

bt seems
u didnt quite answer my 2nd question
wat did ur personal warranty entitled the buyer to
he nvr stated wat is his 3 days personal warranty entitles the buyer to
mayb its just to warranty for non workin or watsnot

ok
i just read ur previous reply

as tis is really goin nowhere
he can say u sold him a faulty item
u can claim he blasted the speaker n blown out the tweeter
its goin around in circles

why dun u both try to come to a conclusion to solve tis matter
u can text him n see how he reply

n next time in deals
pls state wat personal warranty entitles it to
since u claim both of u hav no mutual understanding on the warranty
it does make it an issue

why not take the speakers together with the ts to a technician and get a price quote to fix it, as far as i know speakers do not blow over 2 days, there must be something wrong somewhere, and personal warranty should not be limited to whims that you "believe" the ts broke the speakers, do the right thing, or your just another crook out to make some easy money.

Sounds like this is another case where seller will not hold his words for 'personal' warranty, and a hidden agenda?

You do not have any proof that the speaker is alright before you passed it to buyer. He did mentioned that the cosmetic look of the speaker has been in terrible condition too.

ok
allow me to clarify

for the warranty part
let me quote u
- 3 days personal warranty doesn't mean one-to-one change or full refund. We did not have any mutual understanding on this.
i was askin wat the 3 days personal warranty entitles the buyer to
r we sure here tat the tweeter was blown by the buyer or not
we  r not u neither r we the buyer
we r the ones here tat try to see light at the end of the tunnel
n hopefully came to a conclusion for both affected parties
or somethin like tat

further quotes
- You test run the item at my place. It was in a working condition. You agree on buying the product. Thats it.
from tis i can say.u make it seem like the problem is ok.u brought it.any problems dun come find me since u test run it n u say its ok.then 3 days personal warranty is out

- 3 days personal warranty is not a niche statement. (I don't mean to twist the words here but since you choose to do it this way, I have my own agenda as well)
wat do u wan to twist

- 3 days personal warranty doesn't mean one-to-one change or full refund. We did not have any mutual understanding on this.
tis is the part which i based my questions on.wat does the warranty entitles the buyer to.i was askin a harmless question bt u seem to think im attackin u.i just wanna clarify wat u meant when u said 3 days personal warranty

i was just tryin to get a clearer picture of wat happened.we r not there so we know nuts wat happened.when we get the clear picture wit all the small details.wont it look btr n stop the same questions being asked again n again.if u do still think im attackin u again just to stand on the buyer side.i was nvr on anyone's side except my own views in every dispute thread.hence i was lookin for small details here n there.then i got nothin to say

really feel bad for ts to get conned by such a lying crook.

As a sound engineer, we do not blast any other speakers or hi fi sets. This is not even a hi fi set, you really don't know what your talking about dont you? I listen and monitor mix at average listening pressure levels  which is 40 db - 55db, and its all done indoor where there is no need for blasting. This speakers is stated to be able to produce sound pressure levels up to 90db and above. So if i we're to blow the tweeters on the night i tested it by putting on sounds that are that loud (90db - Stage monitor speaker level), the cops would have probably come after me for disturbance of peace in the neighbourhood, and FYI there's old folks who are bed ridden in this house i live in and i do have a sense of respect for others.

Any sound engineer would be able to tell you that. This speakers i work with and use are not merely for leisure music listening. I have work in several studios with many different set ups and as i see it, its quite impossible for me to blow a tweeter and fried its power amp chip just like that. This is definitely due to long term uncareful usage of speakers. By judging at the cosmetic conditions of this speaker, it looks like it's not just used indoors. There's heavy scratches and tears all over it. Speakers are almost punctured after taking a close look at it.

Your place is all dark and its not even a proper set up to test a speakers full functionality, you as a seller should atleast take responsibility to be able to provide proper testing before selling it. And best part it you dont even take your words seriously. Your 3 DAYS WARRANTY is clearly a lie, you are NOT PREPARED of the "what if"s that could happen after that. Therefore you shudn't even state that there is a warranty AT ALL. In this case, there clearly isn't any. If i were to buy this from behringer, thier ONE YEAR LONG WARRANTY covers these kinda issues without even denying with any excuses.

I saved up for months working saving here and there just to get my self something better to improve on my work, i've even sold off things to finance for this upgrade. But now it just seems like my work is stalled, plenty of time and money wasted for the empty trips u made me do and paying a tech to check on the problem. I've had enough with you and what ever u want to say. I don't expect to get any refund because i know it wont happen, i'll just work harder doing whatever i can to pay for the repair when i can afford it.

My point of this thread is clearly simple, I just want people who deal with YOU (Hilmi Al Guffran) to know who and what kind of person are they facing. Your words can NEVER BE TRUSTED. You twisted your words, and lied with empty promises.  I've seen many con cases out there, wether your a scam, thats not up to me to decide on other people's behalf. I know for a fact, people like you will just pay for all your actions with what ever fate has to give you. Clearly there's no point in arguing with you calling you bugging you or begging you to do something about it after you've wasted my day. I'd rather just move on and I pray for you and hoping that your next victim wudn't fall in the same trap.

Ask your own conscience , did you even bothered about asking what is the repair cost?.......NO , not a WORD AT ALL. You pushed it all to me to settle it by my self, asking me to refer to an already expired warranty card by behringer, and also if there is any warranty from the brand it self, it also requires a PURCHASE RECEIPT which you clearly did not give me during COD.
PS: ChocolateChipCookies A.k.a Hilmi Al Guffran was previously a DJ and was using this together with his DJ set.

in malaysia there's sharia law against Muslims drinking, so do you respect that?