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post Nov 13 2010, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(OrdinaryGuy1 @ Nov 13 2010, 04:33 PM)
hai all,if my question been asked b4,pls point me the direction and sorry for tat coz i din't search it correctly...

I wan to know what is diferent between Plasma,LCD & LED....thx for ur reply...
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Different people have different opinion and I am just starting to check them out myself.

Generally speaking, if we are talking about larger screen like 42 or 50" and of similar price, these are my finding:

1. For picture quality, go for Plasma. I know people said LED is now getting just as good but for much higher price. LCD is totally out of contest.

2. To reduce power consumption by half, go for LED.


For me, if I want to reduce power consumption, I go to bed and sleep. If I wanted to watch movies, PQ is important so I will go for Plasma.


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post Nov 13 2010, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(drynut @ Nov 13 2010, 05:55 PM)
lol.....don't buy any tv then you will save even more. Plasma has good PQ because you are watching yourself in the mirror which comes with freebies like buzzer, heat generator and screen burner, definitely other tv cannot compete with
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Are you saying the LCD has better PQ than Plasma for large screen?



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post Nov 14 2010, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 13 2010, 11:32 PM)
Better PQ definitely LED TV, Plasmas are on their way to extinction, selling cheap in Harvey Norman now. Nobody knows which of those plasma can give permanent burn-in/ghost effect if you paused your screen (movie/game) and go pangsai for 1/2 hour and continue talking with your just-shock-to-know-pregnant-girlfren on the phone for another 2 hours.

Even the harvey norman and the astro guys dont recommend plasma for astro byond.

Since LED TVs are still expensive and all of them are fake* LED (LED backlighting only with over-enthusiatic color, very vivid contrast and brightness)

One can never go wrong buying LCD HDTV now.
*example of true LED Screen is AMOLED or super Amoled)
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Like I said, I am only talking about PQ and those of similar price (not about ghosting, not about power consumption, not about specs etc) . LED is out of the question because it cost too much, what's the point of comparing a RM3000 Plasma vs a RM6000 LED?

Even if we were to discuss Plasma vs LED, most reviews seems to say LED picture quality is now approaching Plasma or as good as Plasma. Which to me, by reading between the line and putting my thinking cap on, is another way of saying Plasma is superior to LCD when PQ is concerned (which some people here disagrees). I stop considering LED simply because it is not worth the high price and with such fast advance in technology, within 2 years, it's obsolete already. Plus, they put strain on my eye with their intense light.

Now if you compare PQ of Plasma and LCD, I personally find Plasma beats LCD anytime, especially when there are movies with dark scene. For still picture like demo apples & oranges etc, LCD are very very attention grabbing. But hopeless in dark movies.

The story of LCD outselling Plasma (as far as PQ is concern) reminded me of history being full of examples of superior technology losing out to inferior technology when it comes to sale figure. Betamax vs VHS. Apple OS vs Miscrosoft Window. Proton outselling Toyota in Malaysia. Because I am a believer of history, I don't follow the crowd, I follow my eyes.

Oh BTW, I don't care what other people say, I only care of what my eyes say. Least of which what salesman said, I think everybody already know that. Here's a good write up on pros and cons of Plasma vs LCD. If you take time to read carefully, Plasma overall have better PQ than LCD but in Malaysia, many people said the opposite.
http://reviews.cnet.com/lcd-tvs-plasma-tvs/



Added on November 14, 2010, 5:50 am
QUOTE(chokia @ Nov 13 2010, 11:32 PM)
One can never go wrong buying LCD HDTV now.
*example of true LED Screen is AMOLED or super Amoled)
Comparing only LED vs LCD, yes, I would totally agree with you. LCD has rubbish picture quality compared to LED. That's why I find it strange so many people think LCD picture better than Plasma.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Nov 14 2010, 07:11 AM
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post Nov 15 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(avantasia @ Nov 15 2010, 07:58 AM)
Finally after a long tought of thinking and comparing between LED Sony KDL52-EX700 and Samsung LED UA55C6900, Panasonic Plasma 50V and Plasma samsung PS50C6500...Finally i bought Samsung Plasma because of the PQ, more cheaper than the rest and my eyes keep on saying that the Samsung Plasma is the right choice !

Keep on Searching on the net [Plasma Vs LED].....AS far as i'm concern only Edge LED with LCD screen in the market now.
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I am certain you really used your own eyes doing the judging and not listening to what salesman said (Plasma is old technology & going extinct etc). I too did not know the difference until I decided to go do side-by-side comparison and spending about an hour to come to that same conclusion, i.e, as far as PQ is concern, Plasma beat LCD anytime for watching moves especially those with night scene. No contest whatsoever. LCD is so much inferior.

While LED is much better than LCD, they are too harsh for the eyes and not comfortable for long hours watching. Beside, they cost way too much.



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post Nov 15 2010, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(4g15p @ Nov 15 2010, 11:38 AM)
Philips 40pfl5605s/98 is direct LED backlighting LCD not EdgeLED
LED backlighthing, Philips 40pfl5605s/98 is selling at RM3199 @ Best Denki, still can kowtim the price with salesman

fyi
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I will only consider 50" and above. Panasonic 50X is RM3K so how much is the Philip's 50" LED?

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post Nov 15 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(avantasia @ Nov 15 2010, 12:36 PM)
It tooks almost 2 - 3 months to decide what should i go for!
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Well, I hasn't bought mine yet and like I said, I didn't know the difference between Plasma/LCD/LED. So what I did was, I pulled a chair and sat there watching. Initially the LCD attracts me with those stationary image of apples etc but when it comes to watching movies, something was not quite right and I actually prefer my old CRT instead! Then I turned to Plasma and did not take my eyes off it for solid 15 minutes and when I immediately turn back to LCD/LED, it actually hurts my eyes with their intense glare and that was when I know LCD/LED is definitely not for me. Who cares about old technology or extinct technology etc or whatever the salesman said because at the end of the day, it's whatever makes me enjoy watching more. Isn't that the whole point of watching movies?

Another thing I felt was, I sometime felt the sharper LED image have more digital artifact or have a less "organic" look to them. It's similar to listening to digital CD music vs analog LP with the former being more 'digital' or artificial.

So I know for sure, when I buy a flat panel TV for watching movies, it's Plasma for certain. Others can buy whatever they want for whatever reasons. Non of my business.


Added on November 15, 2010, 1:24 pm
QUOTE(avantasia @ Nov 15 2010, 07:58 AM)
Finally after a long tought of thinking and comparing between LED Sony KDL52-EX700 and Samsung LED UA55C6900, Panasonic Plasma 50V and Plasma samsung PS50C6500...Finally i bought Samsung Plasma because of the PQ, more cheaper than the rest and my eyes keep on saying that the Samsung Plasma is the right choice !

Keep on Searching on the net [Plasma Vs LED].....AS far as i'm concern only Edge LED with LCD screen in the market now.
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Please tell me the difference between the V and Samsung PS50C6500.

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Nov 15 2010, 01:24 PM
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post Nov 15 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(avantasia @ Nov 15 2010, 01:38 PM)
From my eyes The big diffrence between V and C6500 is their design which is series 6 is much more slimmer & stylish design..The most significant is RM1k higher than samsung.

i dunno wat to call this difference but the is the white colour of V series is slightly whiter than samsung.....

When test using blue ray disc, not much difference!! but i love Plasma samsung colour separation very much when compare to LED series 6 or 7
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May I ask what's the price of the V50 and the C6500?


Added on November 15, 2010, 3:55 pm
QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Nov 15 2010, 02:10 PM)
My Opinion on LCD / LED / Plasma (base on my eye):


[/list]LCD[list]Pros
[*]Sharpen in details.
[*]Power Saving
[*]Brighter.
LOL. One man's meat is another man's poison. Brightness is one thing I can not stand because it is harsh to my eyes.


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QUOTE(4g15p @ Nov 15 2010, 06:44 PM)
50', 60', 100', i dun really care, none of my business, it's your problem,

my response is to ur previous statement as an info to be sharing with others who scouting for cheap and affordable LED atm.
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Don't know the price just say don't know lah. If it's my problem, why bother replying? Isn't that an oxymoron statement?


Added on November 15, 2010, 7:21 pm
QUOTE(BeastX @ Nov 15 2010, 06:51 PM)
I could not stand the old plasma.... with around 60-65Hz refresh rate.... My brain/eyes will not sense the throbbing refresh rate if it was 75Hz and above. Newer ones with above 100Hz -700Hz are great.
Ha. Lucky I didn't get that problem simply because back then, I wasn't interested in buying panel TV so never really study what's available etc.


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post Nov 15 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(4g15p @ Nov 15 2010, 11:38 AM)
Philips 40pfl5605s/98 is direct LED backlighting LCD not EdgeLED
LED backlighthing, Philips 40pfl5605s/98 is selling at RM3199 @ Best Denki, still can kowtim the price with salesman

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You are comparing apples and oranges. There is a big difference in size between 40" and 50"

A 50" Plasma can be as low as RM3000. How much is a 50" LED? Surely more expensive, no?


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post Nov 16 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(low98944 @ Nov 16 2010, 11:59 AM)
One recent post in www.blu-ray.com is similar to this post:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/plasma-tvs/157380...lasma-best.html
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Interesting observation. Foreigner seems to go for picture quality regardless of what sort of technology, old or new. On the other hand, Malaysian goes for whichever is considered newer technology, does not matter whether picture quality is better or worst.


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post Nov 16 2010, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(darenlks @ Nov 16 2010, 12:56 PM)
Relax lah bro, if you like plasma, go ahead with it and enjoy your tv, no need to bother about others who prefer LCD or LED. If you judge the PQ by your own naked eyes, that's where others also doing the same thing and different ppl perceive it differently because of their own preferences, take a break  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have not bought the plasma because of the reflection issue, not the PQ issue. But I notice some are significantly less reflection than others but at higher price. So may as well wait and see what's on offer around Christmas time.



 

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