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 Nexus One Official Thread v3, The legacy continues

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post Nov 15 2010, 06:25 PM

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Of course I can simply run Darktremor's script for a2ext on CM6, but that's not really the point. If you look at the predecessors of CM6 (namely, the awesome 5.08), the a2ext implemented in those versions is not just some script you execute post-ROM installation. The a2ext feature is built into the ROM framework. That is just something that sets apart Cyanogen's work from all the other custom ROMs. And when that feature is absent in the 6.x, it was just a huge downer. To make matters worst, CM6 doesnt play well with the native Froyo A2SD. That's my main gripe with CM6, if you have just a handful of apps and your internal mem is adequate to house them, then CM6 is an awesome ROM. I have like 300+ apps at a time and I certainly need the a2ext+. So if I need to hack DarkTremor's script into a ROM, then why dont I just use some other ROM with the script already pre-installed by default? That why I stuck with LeoFroyo until MIUI came out. MIUI just blew my mind away. A working FM radio (without any of that SenseUI crap), Darktremor's A2SD, that supercool notification bar and of course those cryptic untranslated or mistranslated random strings. Like shahz, I run ADW and do away with that iPhone-ish looks. sweat.gif
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post Nov 15 2010, 06:30 PM

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Exactly what I'm tryin to say..I just see that CM is getting bulky with stuff that you don't really want to use sometimes..I know, the Android development team keep forking out new stuff like flash lights and what not, but I just want a clean ROM that has nothing rubbish and sits in perfectly on my phone, unleashing the real beast under its hood..

To me, MIUI delivers exactly that..Besides, I never really hated iPhone for its interface anyway..I always agreed that iPhone had a better eye-candy..Now, I have both in my phone..Power + looks.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(shahz @ Nov 15 2010, 06:30 PM)
Exactly what I'm tryin to say..I just see that CM is getting bulky with stuff that you don't really want to use sometimes..I know, the Android development team keep forking out new stuff like flash lights and what not, but I just want a clean ROM that has nothing rubbish and sits in perfectly on my phone, unleashing the real beast under its hood..

To me, MIUI delivers exactly that..Besides, I never really hated iPhone for its interface anyway..I always agreed that iPhone had a better eye-candy..Now, I have both in my phone..Power + looks.. smile.gif
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MIUI is the best and most stable Android rom I have tested so far on my htc HD2. NOrmally I do not recommend any specific Android roms for the htc HD2 but I broke my rule, and I highly recommended this MIUI. The MIUI rom is 99.9999 % perfect, it never crashes, never freeze - works perfectly without any issues.
Alas I have sold off my Nexus for the half baked Galaxy S (which I also sold off after less than a month). Till now I would say the Nexus is the BEST android phone I have used to date . Those using it please KEEP it especially with Gingerbread on the way.

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Benny..Why did you sell it off?? @_@
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im thinking to get nexus.. but desire hd coming out..should i wait or just get the nexus?
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QUOTE(cleave @ Nov 15 2010, 06:25 PM)
Of course I can simply run Darktremor's script for a2ext on CM6, but that's not really the point. If you look at the predecessors of CM6 (namely, the awesome 5.08), the a2ext implemented in those versions is not just some script you execute post-ROM installation. The a2ext feature is built into the ROM framework. That is just something that sets apart Cyanogen's work from all the other custom ROMs. And when that feature is absent in the 6.x, it was just a huge downer. To make matters worst, CM6 doesnt play well with the native Froyo A2SD. That's my main gripe with CM6, if you have just a handful of apps and your internal mem is adequate to house them, then CM6 is an awesome ROM. I have like 300+ apps at a time and I certainly need the a2ext+. So if I need to hack DarkTremor's script into a ROM, then why dont I just use some other ROM with the script already pre-installed by default? That why I stuck with LeoFroyo until MIUI came out. MIUI just blew my mind away. A working FM radio (without any of that SenseUI crap), Darktremor's A2SD, that supercool notification bar and of course those cryptic untranslated or mistranslated random strings. Like shahz, I run ADW and do away with that iPhone-ish looks.  sweat.gif
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i need help....

i got more than 300 apps in my phone also...still in 5.0.8 with app2ext.
planning to flash CM6.1...

froyo got a2sd, it should have no limit on memory...should be more than enough memory rite?? y still need a2ext??


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QUOTE(shahz @ Nov 15 2010, 08:20 PM)
Benny..Why did you sell it off?? @_@
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Cos I want a bigger screen ; so used to the 4.3 of HD2 thought the 4" Galaxy S will be better. Now I am using 5" Dell Streak and I love it though it is not so responsive as the Nexus but is miles ahead better than the Galaxy S.

The only great thing I find about the Galaxy S is the beautiful S Amoled display. Other than that the rest is mediocre - slow launch of programs, miserable file access taking up to 3 to 5 secs, hopeless and unreliable GPS . Have tried to convince myself to keep it updating with lag fix solutions, even Froyo roms etc but still disappointing; any gains were marginal. My unit came with the 3 buttons disabled ( meaning unable to go direct to download mode ) a great inconvenience when comes to flashing roms. Even my HD2 on Android performs better than it

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QUOTE(davidwyl @ Nov 15 2010, 08:51 PM)
i need help....

i got more than 300 apps in my phone also...still in 5.0.8 with app2ext.
planning to flash CM6.1...

froyo got a2sd, it should have no limit on memory...should be more than enough memory rite?? y still need a2ext??
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Go ahead and read this : http://www.shahz.net/android/the-differenc...-a2sd-plus.html

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dudes...wats d best and easiest method to root d nexus?
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@cleave & shahz touche, I must agree with your points. Now I feel so belittled by your knowledge of the Nexus One world blush.gif

QUOTE(pUpUnOOb @ Nov 16 2010, 12:24 AM)
dudes...wats d best and easiest method to root d nexus?
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first post dude... Shahz did a "step by step" guide


Added on November 16, 2010, 12:43 amvery imformative link shahz, but how does one go around putting dalvik-cache into SD via RoD's miui rom? is it the

XTRA STEP FOR FULL WORKING Apps2ext+ in SDK or Terminal Emulator

- adb root (needed in some cases)
- adb shell ("su" in Terminal Emulator)
- a2sd check
- a2sd reinstall
- a2sd zipalign
- a2sd cachesd ?

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post Nov 16 2010, 12:58 AM

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@benny888, how come you're not tempted with Desire HD? Is it because of you have Android on your HD2? tongue.gif

@davidwyl
That was my exact thought when I first flashed to CM6. I thought I could live with Froyo A2SD. 150+ apps later, I discovered how wrong I was. It was all fine when the app count was like 100+ or so. When it hit 150, things started to go awry. I had missing app icons in the drawer everytime I mount the phone as a USB storage, although TiB reported that the app is installed. And sometimes when I rebooted the phone, the only apps that loaded properly was the ones on the internal memory. It was kinda annoying as the only way to fix it was through uninstall/re-install procedure. FAT32 is not exactly the best filesystem out there for a 'read' operation, especially when the space it had to 'seek' is large, it'll just failed miserably. Even Microsoft themselves abandoned FAT32 as an OS filesystem when they launched WinXP back in 2000. Add that unreliability to the way Froyo A2SD stores apps. It doesnt just move the apps to the SD. No, no Froyo A2SD encrypts the apps too. So, that decryption process whenever you access an app on Froyo A2SD plus the FAT32 incompetence when seeking through a whole load of apps equates to disaster that bound to happen. If you want CM6.x and you have lots of apps, consider manually installing Darktremor's A2SD or use a bundled CM6 distribution like Kang-O-Rama or RoDrIgUeZsTyLe LimeMod, the ones that come with app2ext. Steer clear of Froyo A2SD. It is just not made to handle massive amount of apps. It'll just crumble under the weight.

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QUOTE(Cryptic @ Nov 16 2010, 12:36 AM)
@cleave & shahz touche, I must agree with your points. Now I feel so belittled by your knowledge of the Nexus One world  blush.gif
first post dude... Shahz did a "step by step" guide


Added on November 16, 2010, 12:43 amvery imformative link shahz, but how does one go around putting dalvik-cache into SD via RoD's miui rom? is it the

XTRA STEP FOR FULL WORKING Apps2ext+ in SDK or Terminal Emulator

- adb root (needed in some cases)
- adb shell ("su" in Terminal Emulator)
- a2sd check
- a2sd reinstall
- a2sd zipalign
- a2sd cachesd ?
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Yep..You can do that right from the ADB console smile.gif
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Finally, Google's CEO Eric Schmidt show off the Nexus S at the Web 2.0 Summit. So all the rumours of a 2nd Gen Nexus is indeed correct. Anyway it does not look like the Samsung Galaxy model. Salivate it at the site below:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/15/eric-sc...web-2-0-summit/
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QUOTE(cleave @ Nov 16 2010, 12:58 AM)
@benny888, how come you're not tempted with Desire HD? Is it because of you have Android on your HD2? tongue.gif

@davidwyl
That was my exact thought when I first flashed to CM6. I thought I could live with Froyo A2SD. 150+ apps later, I discovered how wrong I was. It was all fine when the app count was like 100+ or so. When it hit 150, things started to go awry. I had missing app icons in the drawer everytime I mount the phone as a USB storage, although TiB reported that the app is installed. And sometimes when I rebooted the phone, the only apps that loaded properly was the ones on the internal memory. It was kinda annoying as the only way to fix it was through uninstall/re-install procedure. FAT32 is not exactly the best filesystem out there for a 'read' operation, especially when the space it had to 'seek' is large, it'll just failed miserably. Even Microsoft themselves abandoned FAT32 as an OS filesystem when they launched WinXP back in 2000. Add that unreliability to the way Froyo A2SD stores apps. It doesnt just move the apps to the SD. No, no Froyo A2SD encrypts the apps too. So, that decryption process whenever you access an app on Froyo A2SD plus the FAT32 incompetence when seeking through a whole load of apps equates to disaster that bound to happen. If you want CM6.x and you have lots of apps, consider manually installing Darktremor's A2SD or use a bundled CM6 distribution like Kang-O-Rama or RoDrIgUeZsTyLe LimeMod, the ones that come with app2ext. Steer clear of Froyo A2SD. It is just not made to handle massive amount of apps. It'll just crumble under the weight.
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so u recommend to go straight to RoDrIgUeZsTyLe Miui rom??

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Guys, may I know what does different build number represents? For example my build is FRG83
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QUOTE(davidwyl @ Nov 16 2010, 11:24 AM)
so u recommend to go straight to RoDrIgUeZsTyLe Miui rom??
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MIUI is good on Nexus one. U should port to it.
I was a CM fan until last weekend...flashed to MIUI, love in since...smile.gif
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Nov 17 2010, 08:12 PM)
MIUI is good on Nexus one. U should port to it.
I was a CM fan until last weekend...flashed to MIUI, love in since...smile.gif
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since everyone said that...i will try it after getting my new sd card.
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QUOTE(Benjamin @ Nov 17 2010, 07:09 PM)
Guys, may I know what does different build number represents? For example my build is FRG83
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It represents the OS you are using and the version of it..Something like "service packs"
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Nexus one club, awesome! It's not sold here so I thought no one uses it... Anyone knows where I can get a case? Mine is broken sad.gif

Easiest way to root? If you're using stock rom, I rooted mine by downloading Universal Androot - apparently can even 'unroot'. Just download from the market, open and hit the root button.
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QUOTE(shahz @ Nov 17 2010, 09:52 PM)
It represents the OS you are using and the version of it..Something like "service packs"
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Thanks Shahz.. Getting to know Android bit by bit since I just got it... blush.gif

Guys, eViL's NXSense v1.26 or RoDrIgUeZsTyLe Miui ? blush.gif

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