I'm looking for induction hob for my kitchen. But friends telling me that induction hob emits electro magnetic waves which is harmful to health. It is very efficient compare to gas or ceramic hob. But I am also worry a huge increase in my electricity bill later. Please share your view/comment here. Thanks.

This post has been edited by jj5: Nov 3 2010, 01:41 PM

if u did google a bit, u will noe that there is no research to proof that induction hobs are actually bad for health. The magnetic waves die off around a few cm so it wont b harmful to us when we are cooking. Many ceramic sellers will put a test pen and show that the light lid and it is harmful. That is the magnetic waves, when u turn it off, the wave will b gone nth harmful.

The best is still gas, google more n u will noe why.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jan 18 2011, 04:36 PM

Induction Hob require cookware with bottom which can couple the magnetic field. This itself is a magnetic shield
as most of the magnetic filed generated by induction hob will be constrained into the magnetic material of
the cookware. Magnetic field strength is even worse in servers room with large currents ...

Induction hob will use less electricity compared to ceramic hob as it is much more efficient ...
The most economical is still gas ...

This post has been edited by hebronep: Nov 3 2010, 04:31 PM

I will only consider the induction as a secondary/backup option in case 'gas habis!'

I do think induction is suitable for people who don't cook a lot or cook extremly simple things like maggi mee. It's easier to clean induction hob and occupy less space as it does not need gas.
However it still can't beat gas in term of price.

Nothing is perfect.

If u wan den u can consider to get a hybrid hob like Fotile HL7B, 1 gas burner and one induction zone. Simple things like maggi mee u use induction, no gas also can use induction. Asian cooking, stir fry or u wanna use a wok den can use the gas burner.



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 10 2010, 08:26 PM

Is it true that ceramic hob uses radiation??? In this case what radiation is that? Coz I'm currently looking for a new hob (either ceramic or induction). Hope someone professional can give us more advice or evidence regarding these 2 type of hob.

For more info regarding induction hobs, u can have a read here.

http://theinductionsite.com/radiation.shtml

http://theinductionsite.com/how-induction-works.shtml

Thanks everyone for sharing with me. Please click below link for pros & cons of induction hob.

http://theinductionsite.com/proandcon.shtml

I am just wondering whether the electro magnetic waves emits from the induction will affect food during cooking process. Zheilwane also mentioned in earlier post "Many ceramic sellers will put a test pen and show that the light lid and it is harmful". Just imagine if I drink water which is boiled using induction, will it affect my health?

Below shows the difference of induction cooker & ceramic hob.
Radiation Survey Meter:






This post has been edited by jj5: Nov 4 2010, 01:58 PM


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i bliv u got those pic from vess delicooker website, i heard customers saying their hob is with anti radiation thing. If u ask vees, they will say their hobs are good and induction is bad. If u ask induction salesman they will say their hobs are good and ceramic is bad. SO the best thing is to google and read up yourself. Though i specialize in gas hobs, i google to get info on electric hobs and conclude tat induction is better as it is safer and save electricity bill. Did u notice that most restaurants will use induction instead of ceramic like those steamboat restaurants? If u ask me, ofcoz gas is better as eletrical stuff tend to spoil faster

I have been using induction cooker for over 3yrs. So far so good. If you are heavy cooker, gas is still cheaper.

But if talk about efficiency, induction is better. The usage cost is almost same. Provided the electricity cost won't go up.

Induction cook faster compare gas. And it save electricity too. Once you take out cookware, the power is off.

Those radiate heat cooker or ceramic or hot plate is electric sucker.

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Added on November 4, 2010, 8:45 pmActualy the radiation mean it use heating element to transfer the heat. Not nuclear lah.

But it not efficeincy and power sucker compare induction. I will go for induction anytime.

This post has been edited by ozak: Nov 4 2010, 08:45 PM

I copy the pictures from Forum Lowyat, topic created by vees delicooker's salesman.

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Added on November 4, 2010, 10:37 pmI cook during weekend. Ozak, may I know what brand you use & the power consumption (eg. 2600 watt for 2 burner)? Do you find electricity bill increase a lot if heavy cooking? People says taste of the food is different with induction, no "for hau". Is that true?

This post has been edited by jj5: Nov 4 2010, 10:37 PM

I m using eurouno, 1600w. Almost using everyday with average 1hr cooking. Even boil water using it. Cause it fast. The bill maybe about RM10+ increase. Not so sure. If base on the 1.6kw and usage of 1hr/day = 48kw/mth. That would cost about RM10.50/mth.

If your cookware base is too big, the heat transfer would be not even. Cause the hotspot is around 10cm diameter. If you know how to use it, not a problem. If it can heat up fast, how can it no "for hau". The heating level adjust is not same as gas cooker. Gas cooker is more easy to control. You got to train yourself.

I like the flat surface which is easy to clean after cooking. Besides, the cooking zone is not hot at all, don't have to worry my son will burn his little hand. At my existing house, I've to install a "gate" to stop him entering kitchen. That's why I consider induction now.

Do you buy pot which is almost same size with hotspot/cooking zone? I'm not aware if cookware base is too big, heat can't transfer evenly. Thanks for highlighting this. If use induction hob, I've to spend few hundred just to buy stainless steel pot. Those La Gourmet pot in Jusco also cost few hundred each

Think you have a "cool kitchen" environment as induction generate less heat compare to gas.

It's hard to do stir fry with an induction cooker isn't it? cos you need a wok. And you need special pans. And you can't be cooking like four dishes at once like you can with gas. And Rm10.50 a month can pay my credit card subs

nowadays young house owners prefer electric hobs as their are more trendy and easier to clean. They dont really cook much. For me, gas is always my first choice but if u wan me to choose electric hobs, i will go for Induction.

Yes.It is easy to clean and more tidy.

The cooking zone is hot. But cool much faster than gas type. You can wipe it instantly after cook while hot with wet cloth.

You can buy bigger pot. But smaller base toward down. Or maybe you can find the induction cooker where hotspot is bigger. If can, pan is better. Cause you can hold it while stir your cook. I use a magnet to test the cookware when shop for induction cookware. If it stick, than I buy it. Otherwise can"t use on induction. But nowaday, it is easy to find induction cookware.

Langkawi is cheaper if buying cookware. Half the price here.

I seldom fried or cook big dish. So much more easy to maintain kicthen.

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Added on November 5, 2010, 11:56 pmNot really. Just use a pan will do. Pan too have a wok type which base have a small flat surface. If you shop around, you can see all kind of pan. Nothing is special anymore. I have seen before where induction cooker have a curve base which dedicate for wok in 1U.

Induction do come with 1,2 or 3 hotspot which can cook together. But higher watt like 3kw.

I m not sure 1 gas tank can last how long if cook with my consumption. And the price too. Can you calculate out? I stop using gas to cook for over 8yrs already.

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Added on November 6, 2010, 12:04 amI choose electrical type to reduce the risk like fire, gas leak and didn't pay attension. Gas involve few level of safety switch and part before reach your cooking pan.

If you use to gas cooking, you will not like the induction cooking. Unless you are willing to learn and change. Just like microwave of cooking.

This post has been edited by ozak: Nov 6 2010, 12:04 AM

Electricity charges for induction hob 1600watt, assuming 1 hour cooking per day:

1600watt / 1000 x RM0.218 (electricity cost per unit) x 30 days
= RM0.3488 per hour x 30 days
= RM10.46 per month

My friend use gas to cook daily, 1 tong of gas can last for 1 & half months. Estimate cost RM27 for 1 gas tong (Shell gas). Can those who cook regularly share your view here.

Ozak, your induction has any breakdown problem for past 3 years? Need servicing or replace parts? Will the word printing on the glass faded, I mean can't see the word anymore after sometime. Mind to share with us? Thanks.

My one is cheap one. But the word didn't fade away at all. I need to replace till the third one only can last that long. The first one got problem after 2week. Replace the second but not last long too. All under warranty. So far 3yrs using no problem at all. Nothing to replace.

Remember not to switch off the main power after use. Let the fan cool down the inside part and when the fan is off, than only switch off the power.

The last I know about 1 gas tong cost RM14.50. That is 8yrs ago. Now so expensive liau.

One thing not good for induction, I can't reheat food by placing the plate on hotspot but ceramic hob can. So I have to look for oven as well. Any recommendation? Fotile oven seems good. Nowadays steam oven is also available in the market. Too many choices.

Just use microwave.

Found a website with info on electro magnetic field generated by induction hob. Just for sharing.

http://www.bag.admin.ch/themen/strahlung/0...ex.html?lang=en

Copied from this web

To date no specific studies of the effect of induction hobs on health have been carried out

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there is no compelling evidence of medium-frequency magnetic fields having long-term effects on health.

Like i said earlier, there are no research showing tat induction hobs are bad for health, those selling ceramic hobs salesman just talk rubbish and show the test pen to scare consumers

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Nov 9 2010, 03:17 PM

Actually there is still no evidence related to magnetic fields health problem. Those scientist still conducting some experiment and testing.

If it relates, many people will effect like those TNB technician amd those stay near to power line. Those saleman are bullshit.

Actually I have work in before those factory which the induction cooker is thousand time bigger than this. I don't see those work long and near to it expose to health problem.

Thanks Zheilwane & Ozak for sharing.

Zheilwane, the Fotile induciton & gas hob looks very nice. How long is this model in the market?

This model has already been tested and sold in overseas for quite some time but just arrived malaysia yesterday

Can share with us more info for Fotile Hybrid hob eg. what type of glass is the hob, voltage & no. of years warranty? Thanks.

lol, u can get those info from their website
www.fotile.com.my

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Added on January 23, 2011, 6:33 pmFor those who are interested with ceramic hobs you can consider this new Fotile model



This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jan 23 2011, 06:33 PM

What about the installation? I'm currently using gas stove on a stainless steel table. If I want to use induction cooker, that means I have to create a hole for the cooker to fit in? Can I just put the cooker on top of the table, will it be too hot?

If not, is there any shop selling table for induction cooker only, sort of like a frame for the cooker to fit in? Really have no idea on this.

1) u can put it on top of ur table without making a hole for it.
2) YOu will need to prepare 15amp -20amp for the hob, make sure your wiring can support the load.

There is a table top induction cooker selling anywhere in electrical shop. But in 1head cooking ring.

I m using it.

Hi, i have got my key already. Just want to find out from you abt this model. How is power like for the induction and gas cooker and how much?? Can i have your full address and tel no.

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Added on February 5, 2011, 3:27 pmHi zean, I wrote to u before and i got my key to my new house already. I am doing my reno now and one question to ask abt the hl7b is how is the power like for induction and gas cooker and how much?? Where is your place and contact number? Is there any complain on this product?

This post has been edited by REEN YONG: Feb 5 2011, 03:27 PM

Just would like to share my own real experience with Vees Delicooker in summary.

Take your own risk if you want to buy this product. Before you buy everything they tell will be very nice to hear, German technology, warranty, no explosion problem like gas stove, smart cooker with timer, compatible with all types of pots, best customer service is their most concern, unlimited free home party, zero interest installment to convince you pleasantly. One more thing they will not tell you it needs the 15 amp powerpoint until you realized it yourself when the product deliver to your doorstep. You need to change the socket to round holes plug point. When you receiving your product they will only recommend you to buy 3 Vees v-wipe Multi-Purpose Cleaner at cost RM150 for cleaning purpose and free 1 piece of Schott CeraQuick Cleaning Scraper worth RM28.

Yeap everything can be happened if gas stove or even such expensive electric stove German technology that they have claimed it so smart and good.

Honestly my new Delicooker was exploded in their sale office last weekend when we tested it out. We never use that cooker before because we can't even turn it on at home. Every time we try it at home then the whole house power was tripped. We have been keeping it for few months because of this reason until we feel what if their product faulty? That was why we brought it to our nearest branch to test it. The sale person plug the Delicooker adapter to the round holes socket on the wall, the moment he turn it on the Delicooker itself exploded and shocked us.

We are requesting them to replace a new unit but they have rejected us after few attempt. Hey that unit is totally new, we never ever get chance to turn it on! We tried to follow up with the sale person but she didn't answer the phone call and don't even reply our sms. We went to the branch again and we have to tell the story again and again to different person but helpless at the end too.

With 3k budget as consumer we actually could have many choices.

What will you do if this happen to you after pay 3k? Never get to use it, when incident happen they don't seem really perform their "best customer service" to make you feel comfortable and trust their product. It was exploded in their sale office and now requests a new unit they have rejected and try convince you saying will repair and give it back to you. Will you accept?

Think twice for wise decision before you buy something good for yourself and good luck.

Is Vees delicooker is a induction cooker?

File your complaint here. They will help you.
http://www.complaint.cfm.org.my/

i have been cooking for the past 13 years using gas hob and cleaning never been a problem for me. I cook 3-5 times per week and my gas last me at least 4-5 months. one tank of gas now cost more than RM 20++. the current modern glass top hob is so easy to clean nowadays.

the trendy induction or ceramic hob will gives you teething problem few years down the road. All heating element(ceramic hob) has lifespan. all ceramic/induction hob has microprocessor built in and a host of other electronics such as temperature controller, timer etc. unless all these are made of top notch stuff, these will give you problem sooner or later.

although salesman will tell you it use 13amp socket but recommended is round hole 20A socket. Hob exploding is due to faulty ground.

I would prefer induction than ceramic heaters due to its heating speed and safety. Induction is based on heat generation due to friction of magnetic field, hence it only produce heat on ferrous materials. it wont burn your hand but it will burn the ring on your hand. how good is the heat generated is depended on the quality of your cookware, hence all induction cookware has a thick, heavy stainless steel base. disadvantage in using induction hob is that, you will not able to use cookware such as corningware, pyrex etc..

IMHO induction is only good at boiling water and steamboat!! due to its speed. In a western kitchen, their cuisine seldom rely on hob, they use oven a lot, their heart of the kitchen is a good oven! Asian cooking cooks a lot on a wok.

If you really like induction/ceramic hob, please buy from a reputable brand from europe or japan as their electronics are more reliable.

I will still stick to gas hob for ll my cooking but i dont mind having an induction hob to boil water or steamboat

and lastly, never listen to the salesman/promoter!

This post has been edited by shuttersyok: Mar 7 2011, 02:10 PM

Will it be good to have a 15 or 20 amp?

u should check the product spec and c the power rating, like how many watt, then consult ur wiremen. They are the specialist, nth will go wrong.

Eg: ceramic hob with left zone 1.8kw and rite zone 2.2kw total = 4kw. 4000w/240v = 16.7amp. (calculation is based on info from the internet, i don guarantee it is 100% correct)

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Mar 11 2011, 11:19 PM

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Added on March 11, 2011, 11:58 pmhttp://ttpm.kpdnkk.gov.my/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&lang=en

File a complaint via TTPM (Tribunal Tuntutan Pengguna Malaysia), you just need to pay $5 registration fees and they will bring the unscrupulous seller to court....

This post has been edited by janethiew: Mar 11 2011, 11:58 PM

There is nothing wrong with the company service pratice. He is keeping the faulty unit too long. That would be under 1 yrs warranty which subject to repair and replace parts. If he immeadiately send back the cooker after found out the problem, than he can claim back a new unit.

The only thing wrong is the cooker suck.

Which brand is that??? May I know

Induction hob can do 'dai chow'?

can anyone show me how the induction cooktop power plug look like. I'm about to start renovation project soon, would like to install a power point for the kitchen that supports cooktop. preferably with the picture. So far I'm guessing is a rounded 3 pin plug something like olden aircond plug look like not sure I'm right or not.

I guess it depends on brand? I surveyed TEKA hobs, both their induction and gas hobs only come with bare wires no plugs given. My electrician have to solder a 3-pin plug onto it.

Usually for induction hobs, majority brands nowdays cut cost by providing you wire. An electrician will be able to add a 3 pin round head plug for you to plug onto your wall socket point which should receive the round head type as well. Additionally, you can also have an off/on heater switch at a higher height for your convenience to on/off your hob whenever not in use so that the ones inside your cabinet below can be left on all the time.