Malaysian Malays in M-League in 2011





The Malaysian Malays are eyeing a spot in the M-League in 2011.



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This post has been edited by HangPC2: Nov 2 2010, 07:15 PM

Team name Malaysian Malays?

This post has been edited by Belphegor: Nov 2 2010, 07:27 PM

Doesn't exactly promote national unity eh?

Tuan Hj Abdullah Bin Md Doon (Dollah Don '' Harimau Malaya '' )









Pasukan Bolasepak Melayu Semenanjung (1947)




Pasukan Bolasepak All Malaya Vs Hong Kong Chinese




Pasukan Bolasepak Melayu Singapura (1953)





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once a champion!

Same thing applies to MIFA and MCFA right?

Yep. And all are given the same allocations by FAM.

True but these are societies and not teams. If this were politics it'd be like UMNO wanting to govern the country (as if they already don't), instead of BN. Anyway, it was a different time back then when racial matters were less sensitive. I'm not making a big deal here, I'm just saying that with the increased segregation of races in the country, and with football being prodominantly played by one race, more should be done to encourage racial intergration.

Melayu Malaysia





PERSATUAN BOLASEPAK MELAYU MALAYSIA atau ringkasnya PBSMM merupakan antara persatuan yang tertua di negara ini dan ia telah ditubuhkan pada 19hb April 1947. Pada asalnya Persatuan ini diberi nama Persekutuan Bolasepak Melayu Semenanjung (PBSMS).
Mesyuarat pertama penubuhan Persatuan ini telah diadakan di Kelab Sultan Sulaiman, Kampung Baru, Kuala Lumpur dan Yang Dipertua pertamanya ialah Dr. Abbas bin Haji Alias, Setiausaha Agung Kehormat, Encik Md Said Abdul Rahman dan Bendahari Kehormat, Encik Mahmud bin Jintan. Persatuan ini telah didaftarkan dengan Pendaftar Pertubuhan Malaya pada tahun 1950 dengan nombor pendaftaran 889/50.

Selepas itu Persatuan ini dipimpin oleh beberapa orang tokoh negara diantaranya ialah, Al-Marhum Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra, Yang Mulia Raja Shahriman bin Raja A. Hamid, Tan Sri Abdul Jamil Rais, Yang Berbahagia Dato' Mahmood Ambak, Yang Berbahagia Tan Sri Dato' Senu Abdul Rahman dan beberapa tokoh lain yang nama mereka terpahat dalam rekod persatuan ini.

Pada tahun 1989, nama Persatuan ini telah dipinda kepada Persatuan Bolasepak Melayu Malaysia. Pada Ketika itu, Persatuan ini dibawah pimpinan Yang Berhormat Tan Sri Dato' Sabbaruddin Chik.

i normally despise racism factor in everything, but can see some positive factor if MCFA also send a team. it would at least sidetrack some factor that make Chinese disinterested to join the industry :-

1. The perceived racism in team selection
2. Stadium environment that is thick of Malay testosterone tension.
3. Hesitation to support symbol of Malay sultanate states.
4. The team would be sponsor friendly to Chinese Business Assemblies that could reflect to a stable income to the players.
5. The team's progress would be highlighted in Chinese press and means information will be dispersed. Chinese then will criticizes our football with information instead of current situation of criticizing and totally abandoning our football without any information at all.
6. This team could spearhead the industry in term of competitiveness, survival instinct and profit orientiveness. Qualities that are famously attached to Malaysian Chinese. This will jolt other FAs to do better.

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Added on November 3, 2010, 11:29 amwonders where is the home base for this Malay football team ?

may i take a guess that it is somewhere in Pasir Mas, Kelantan

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 3 2010, 11:29 AM

PBSMM sertai Liga M mulai 2011




KANCAH Liga Malaysia (Liga M) 2011 bakal menyaksikan penyertaan pasukan Persatuan Bola Sepak Melayu Malaysia (PBSMM).

Presiden PBSMM, Datuk Takiyuddin Hassan berkata, Persatuan Bola Sepak Malaysia (FAM) baru-baru ini telah memberi lampu hijau kepada PBSMM untuk mempersiapkan pasukan menyertai Liga Malaysia mulai musim 2011.

Sehubungan itu, Takiyuddin berkata, PBSMM telah menubuhkan Jawatankuasa Khas yang diketuai Timbalan Presidennya, Anuar Awad bagi memastikan persiapan ke arah itu berjalan lancar.

" Buat permulaan, kami akan bersaing dalam kempen Piala FAM dan jika berkemampuan, kami sedia untuk bersaing pada saingan Liga Perdana pada musim berikutnya, " kata Takiyuddin selepas Mesyuarat Ahli Majlis PBSMM di Kelana Jaya semalam.

Dalam pada itu, PBSMM turut bersetuju untuk menganjurkan Kejohanan Piala Dunia Melayu 2011 sejajar dengan penganjuran Piala Dunia 2010 di Afrika Selatan.

" Kami cuba untuk menarik minat komuniti Melayu di negara seperti Afrika Selatan, Sri Lanka dan negara lain di Asia Tenggara," tambah Takiyuddin.

Mesyuarat semalam turut memutuskan bahawa saingan Piala Emas Raja-Raja musim ini akan diadakan selepas perlawanan Piala Agong antara Kelantan menentang Johor di Stadium Sultan Muhammed IV, Kota Bharu pada 13 November 2009.

Cabaran peringkat awal Kejohanan Piala Emas Raja-Raja musim ini akan dijalankan mengikut format zon dengan Pulau Pinang selaku tuan rumah Zon Utara, Terengganu (Zon Timur), Selangor (Zon Tengah).

Namun, kedudukan tuan rumah Zon Selatan belum dapat diputuskan berikutan Johor dan Singapura menawarkan diri sebagai tuan rumah.

Turut diputuskan dalam mesyuarat tersebut ialah usaha PBSMM untuk meneruskan usaha menganjurkan Kejohanan Bola Sepak Melayu Nusantara selain menyertai pertandingan-pertandingan jemputan di luar negara.



- Kosmo -

why you bring this? furthermore take a cheap shot with that Pasir Mas reference.

because thats what i think and i would like to discuss it. I want all malaysian to join the football industry. If the Chinese refuse to join us in our group, at least they will join in their own group. Takdelah malu2 sangat.


that gesture is only a lighthearted joke... dont take it tooo offensively...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 3 2010, 11:42 AM

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PBSMM - ADABI - HMC | Liga Felda 2010






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Official Kit : Altra





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What to your understanding is the reason behind the Chinese 'abandoning' local football, or even to a large extent, the Indians? Is it down to a perceived lack of income? Lack of talent? Lack of interest? Sports politics?

You seem to imply that it's only the Chinese who criticise the state of local football and I'm assuming you know what they are critical about?

ironic how 1Malaysia symbol being put side-side with a Malay exclusive football association symbol

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Added on November 3, 2010, 12:35 pm

Yes. Yes. Yes and Yes. A succesful MCFA team can help to overcome this issues.

But i do think the indians participation in our football are healthy enough. They have a bukectful of talent. Just that their number are limited to reflect Malaysia race/population disposition.

Malays and Indians also critical to the industry heavily. But there are also a large portion of them support it. See Malaysia Cup games from quarterfinal up...

But it is mighty hard to find chinese who would participate at all.. with a Malaycian Chinese team, they can have a bridge to do so...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 3 2010, 01:48 PM

Harimau Malaya.com (HMC) Blades






http://www.hmcblades.com/


HarimauMalaya.com (HMC) Blades for Unity.

Combining futsal team and football team (formerly known as Iman HMC FC at Selangor League).

Will join any futsal tournament and preparing team for next season Selangor League.

Team sponsored by Altra.my

hmm.. i dont know Harimaumalaya.com associate themselves with Malaysian Malay Football Association

Here's the thing though. I doubt it's because of a perceived lack of income. Why? Our national basketball team for example, comprises heavily of Chinese and I cannot imagine them getting paid more than your average footballer. Lack of talent? Perhaps but we've all kicked a ball about during our school days, so we all had the same opportunity. Lack of interest? Definitely not in the sport because I know a lot of Chinese who play socially. Sports politics? I think this is a no brainer. It is ingrained in the very fabric of our society and it isn't just the Chinese and Indians that suffer.

On the other hand it could be unhealthy because it further divides the races. Imagine an all-Chinese team going up against an all-Malay team especially in our current political climate. I shudder to think of the repercussions. Chinese participation has to begin higher up, in the ranks of the FAM or the individual state FAs. Maybe even in at Youth and Sports Ministry level where Chinese talent can be cultivated at primary or early secondary level. Interest has to be generated at a young age.

I don't know at other place but in my place, when i was a budak sekolah menegah, lots of Chinese boy play football during PJK but they seem not so interest to go deeper, most of them play like kaki bangku, maybe they just want to play for fun. And during school team selection, i can count with my fingers how many chinese boy participate. But indian, they're really good at this sport. I found lots of them are energetic and very pacey.

I think Malaysia is one of the few countries in the world (or the only one?) that institutionalizes, and even celebrates racial divides. From political parties to football teams.

I can imagine how awful it'd sound for an "All Whites Football Club of Canada" or a "All Black Basketball Club".

On the other hand - our country's history has been shaped along racial lines for many years but it'd be good to move on from that.

compare to education, school, newspaper, bussiness asociation, public and private sector, racism in Malaysian football is not that mainstream to be an issue. Historically our top football competition still base on geographic territory.

Beside, my suggestion for MCFA to also produce a team more of an effort to pull them to come and play together insted of us just playing with ourselves.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 3 2010, 05:44 PM

Melayu Semenanjung + MCFA + MIFA


= FAM (Football Association Of Malaya)




This post has been edited by HangPC2: Nov 3 2010, 05:51 PM

fixed..

It's nothing different that in other countries, just that we are not used to them either. For example the best Brazillians footballers are always almost comes exclusively from the poor black population. Only some from the higher elites whites have been involved, the most famous one is obviously Kaka.

Even in England, most of their football players comes from the lower income group, which is why years ago there was a stigmata against them, citing that they are usually rowdy, unlearned people. Only recently does this does not apply anymore.

For Malaysian, there is a certain mindset for taking football as a career. I have quite a lot of Chinese friends taking up sports, and while talking to them, most of their parents discourage them really from taking up football, since pay is low, and the chance of getting injured is high. It's not about them not having national pride, but looking at the bigger picture, playing football in Malaysia is not really a good choice for them financially and health wise.

But team wise, this is the first time I heard of an all Malay team trying to get into the Malaysian league. Sure, we also have the Piala Emas Raja Raja, which is exclusively to Malays, (MCFA and MIFA also has similar competition IIRC), but usually it's for state teams to blood youngsters.

I have nothing against them, but I do feel that it's not really about showing unity of races in Malaysia either. Oh well. Whatever floats their boat

Its not just one factor Duke. Its a combination of a little bit of this and a little bit of that that create this complete mess.



But the stigma on most parent's mind is that football is a poor people's game. They do not know that top football player's on Malaysia earn 25k a month with an education of a bricklayer or and DVD seller. THEY DO NOT KNOW. Because of that they subdue their child's development from taking that route from the early age.

They do be more permissive with basketball. I think this is just simply because you people are good at sports that values slim lightweight physique and excellent eye-hand coordination (ping-pong, badminton, basketball, kung fu). And also because, like other minority sports, basketball in Malaysia is more of a interest and hobby issue instead of a professional one. This is not good enough for football.



i never have the pleasure to be mixed school with Chinese. But reports that i receive imply that football development in Chinese vernacular school are not that prioritized. this can be seen in inter-school match results. Since there are no push for development, we will not know if there are talent or not .



The interest is there. But if the target from beginning is to just be good enough socially, the improvement rate would not be enough for you to make it professionally. Even if you do, consideration from other factor would deter you from making that leap of faith.




This is why we must create a team specifically for the Chinese and the Indians. So that they can play and grow in comfortable area, safe from this perceived sports politics.

But i do think racism in Malaysian football is exaggerated. Every team would not have an Indian and Chow Chee Weng, Joseph Kallang Tie and Malaysian Cup finalist Ching Hong Aik would not played a key role in respective teams if racism is truly widespread.


Yes the idea has their repercussions. But i truly frustrated with this dragging status quo and want something done differently for a change. Even though we will not be playing together in a same team, at least we will playing together in a same field. Compare to the current environment where we shield each others away and live in separate worlds, thats good enough as a start is it not?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 3 2010, 08:05 PM

imagine this malay futbol team vs chinese futbol team in M league..i juz cant imagine what the supporters from both sides gonna trade their insult at each other...recipe for racial disaster...bad bad bad move from FAM!!

True, but it isn't "officially" recognized to the point that a "Black Brazilian Footballers Club" is formed, and then approved by the Brazilian FA!

I highly doubt that...

Atheletic Bilbao only took basque spain players.. its their right as a assoication to do so..

Mohamedan Sporting Club (Kolkata) = Indian Muslim Sports Club

Bangkok Christian Collage FC = Thai Christian FC

betul, jgn sempitkan fikiran anda. Bila kt Malaysia orang buat kelab specific untuk satu bangsa je kita dh melatah ckp rasis la. Padahal kat negara lain pn sme je, dh ada bnyk kelab2 mcm ni. Contoh terbaik, Athletic Bilbao. Main kt Spanish Primera Liga lg tu. Policy dia ambk pemain muda dan beli pemain yg berbangsa Basque. So, ape salahnye dgn kelab Melayu Malaysia ni? Bila kita x tau suatu perkara 2 kaji dlu jgn buat spekulasi lg2 kaitkn dgn rasis.

LOL'd




i never blame MALAYSIAN chinese. yeah, it's true that our M-League won't ensure them a bright future. every season, must got 2-3 teams pull out, have financial problems, unsettled EPF etc.

but i hate SINGAPOREAN chinese. they are the majority race. i hate to admit this but frankly (uurrgghhh) Singapore's S-League are ranked as one of the top 10 leagues in Asia which means the salary cap is quite high but still they don't want to play football. shame on them really

Singapore's league attendance and overall interest are not much better than M-League. But their admistration are top notch as expected. And although the marketing do not bringing the result, you cannot blame them for the effort to at least do it properly..

Well S-League is there also for the betting.

This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Nov 4 2010, 08:18 AM

During my schooling days, we were looking for donations to buy land and build more classrooms. A football field seems like a luxury item. Basketball court and pingpong table seems to be much cheaper and lower maintenance cost. This is just one of the reason why only few Chinese plays football?

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Added on November 4, 2010, 8:28 amAmbil yang jernih, buang yang keruh. Tak semestinya bila orang buat, kita ikut jugak. Saya rasa kita perlu benchmark perkara yang baik. Kita ada pilihan.

Our country is so divided that every action counts. We can't just shouting 1Malaysia and the other end, we are doing something that against it.

This post has been edited by xgineer: Nov 4 2010, 08:28 AM

Yes. I think so too. One of the many reasons as i list out in earlier post. The question is, how do we move on even with that handicap still cannot be resolve?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 4 2010, 10:02 AM

Why are we bringing & talking about race here ? So what ? The Malays decided to have a football association & a football team. The Chinese also have that, the Indians also have that. It's not like any of teams are dominating the sport & promoting disunity among Malaysians. There are other much bigger leagues with multiracial members. Granted that, not many Chinese wanna play football. Let them be. There must be a reason for that & it's most likely will be about money or job security rather than discrimination or whatever.

Nowadays a lot of Malays also play basketball. So what ? How many Malay players U see in the national basketball team ? How many Indians ? Even the sole Indian player also went to a Chinese school (I know him personally). Do U see UMNO or any Malay associations bringing this up ? Again, it's not about racist or discrimination or anything like that. It's just about choice. U wanna play, just play la. I've played basketball & I've played in a team where I'm the only Malay. & I've played in tournaments where we were the only all Malay team. About the salary of basketball players, U hv to understand the popularity of the sport here. How many basketball arenas that charge spectators do we have in the country ? How strong is the league ? Who is the sponsor ? Dun forget that before Air Asia came in, Petronas was the main sponsor for MABA. The MABA stadium & hostel have Petronas money all over it. It's not about discrimination. Chinese ppl dun wanna come & pay to watch a Chinese dominated sport. Do we blame UMNO for that ?

We dun need this kinda talk here. Unless one of the MCFA or MIFA qualified on merit to play in the M-League & suddenly FAM dun allow it, which is highly unlikely to happen, then there's sumthing wrong somewhere.

I rest my case.

This is true. I myself had no idea local professional footballers earn as much as they do. I've not heard of anyone earning RM 25K but I do know that Indra Putra earns a salary of RM 16K a month. I suppose that if you factor in bonuses and incentive, the figure will inflate somewhat. The same should apply to any other sport though with the exception of maybe golf which is commonly played by those from the higer enchelon. Ping-Pong, Basketball, Motor Racing (not F1), and to an extent, even badminton are not lucrative if you compare them against working your way up the corporate ladder or start an SME. I know that "badminton" probably stood out but I've a friend who is a journalist and he told me that BAM pays very little, as low as RM 2K a month. The players then have to earn their own money which is why you see someone like Lee Chong Wei playing in every major badminton tournament whilst Lin Dan competes mainly in the local China circuit.

My point is that the stigma isn't limited to football, but any sport in the country.



I'd have to agree that basketball isn't as developed as football. We don't have a local professional league nor do we have professional players. As I know it, we only have the KL Dragons who are currently playing in the ABL and even then our standards are so low, we would be swept of the court if not for our foreign imports. Not too long ago, we had the Petronas Cup but unless MABA forms a professional league, it will never be a career.

Back to football. I'm not as in touch with the local scene but from what I can see, moving the league from semi-pro to pro status has done little to advance the standards. In fact I think we were higher ranked back in the days of Zainal Abidin, Dollah Salleh, P.Ravindran, Khairul Azman, Matlan Marjan, etc. Back then we had foreign imports like Selangor's Karel Stromsik who played in the 1982 World Cup, Abbas Saad, Tony Cottee, David Roecastle, Chris Kiwomya, and other international players who have actually earned caps. You could say that as a semi-pro leagues, football was an interest? Players had day jobs in various banks as I recall. When we turned professional, I gather the goal was to take football seriously and maybe it's early days but there has been little improvement from what I can see.

The best way to convince the Chinese to get back into the game would be for standards to improve. I know it looks like a chicken and egg scenario but it's marketing 101. If you want to sell someone a product, which in this case is football, you need to provide quality content and package it.



During my days in Coed, there were equally as many Malay and Chinese football players in our school team, with Indians being the minority. It may be a stereotype but I noticed commonalities in each race. The Malays had better technique and skill, the Chinese were industrious and had high work ethic, the Indians were hard as steel and could run rings round the rest. I know it's far fetched but this is why I truly believe an integrated Malaysian team will bring us forward and I can understand the importance of getting the Chinese interested in the game again. I think what you mentioned about development is a common problem not just as secondary but also primary level. We do not have proper coaches to nurture young talent. Our school team coach was our PE player and god only knows what his creds are.

In terms of improving beyond just kicking a ball around, it's like I mentioned on the other thread, I see organisations offering kids these opportunities but unfortunately, it comes at a price. Football Focus for example is a setup that has tied up with Tottenham Hotspurs. They offer kids the opportunity of having a 2 week trial in England with view of staying in the academy for months depending on how they progress. Some years back I met the owners of the BFA, or Brazilian Football Academy. I believe the principles were Juninho (of Middlesbrough fame) and former Southamption coach, Simon Clifford. Both of them introduced Brazilian skills and 'futebol de salao' to kids from countries like Malaysia, Hong Kong, Nigeria, Bermuda, USA, Thailand, Australia, Canada, Holland, Mexico, etc. One notable EPL graduate from this programme is Micah Richards. I truly believe that in our current climate, we have to take kids out of the country for them to develop overseas but the setback it that rural folk can't afford to enroll their kids in such programmes. When I say "take the kids out of the country", I don't mean for 2 or 3 month stints but a few years. You can't learn much in just a few months, it just doesn't work that way. Kids overseas start proper training from what? 9-12 years of age? Perhaps the FAM can work on developing some kind of scholarship programme with similar football schools/academies?

Well it's like you said earlier, the Chinese just don't see football as being a lucrative career so this needs to first be addressed. If it isn't then any Chinese team you send will comprise of bankers, lawyers, insurance agents or some other blue or white collared worker looking for a hobby.

I believe the same applies for any Basque team like Real Sociedad or Osasuna? I may be wrong. I see similarities but also differences. We are a country of diverse races and hence it's only expected that some degree of racism will exist. With Spain, the differences are more politically driven.

The S-League is small and you can't fault people for having bigger ambitions in life. Please also consider life after football. Whilst in places like England there are heaps of opportunities ranging from coaching to being a TV pundit, there is little options here. Most open an SME but without any business experience, a lot fail.

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Added on November 4, 2010, 4:44 pmBecause the topic itself carries racial connotations? Your questions are contradictory. Do you not see why there is talk about race, or do you not care? I don't know what you took out of earlier posts, but the commonality I see is that in line with our PMs vision to promote 1Malaysia and with racial tensions at a high, it may not be right time to introduce any singular raced based team, party or whatever. Yes the Chinese and Indians already have teams - past tense. Is it wrong to have a team? No. Is it timely? Not in my opinion. I'd much rather the focus be on trying to get the Chinese involved in the sport again and have a truly multiracial team as we used to back in the day. Football has brought peace to nations if only for a day. Iraq is proof of this. Imagine the kind of impact watching a multiracial Malaysian team winning say the Asian games would have. It may revive interest in the local league. It may revive interest in the game amongst the Chinese. It may promote racial harmony once again. I hate the word 'racial tolerance' although it is used commonly. We should not have to tolerate one another. We should like to live with one another.

This is what.



I see you deviating and insuniating that the reason this topic is being discussed is because the Chinese feel it's wrong for the Malays to have a team. If this is so, look at the rationalisation I provided earlier. On the topic of basketball, I had friends playing in the non-Chinese league. If the Chinese had wanted to kick up a fuss, it would have happened. It isn't about a race wanting to have a team. If you see absolutely no relevance in what I posted, then fine.



I've played basketball as well, and in tournaments like the Sultan's Cup and yes, it is dominated predominantly by the Chinese. You are right about the development of basketball in the country but no one is arguing otherwise. Basketball was used by me as an example of a low paying job. I'm sorry but what is the connection with UMNO here? I'm not sure what anyone else has said but I used UMNO in the context of BN, and in that example I said that although each race has it's own party e.g. UMNO, MCA and MIC, they are all parked under a united banner that is BN. Hence it would be weird if you ask me to have an all Malay, Chinese or Indian team in the Super League, which is our national flagship football league.

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Added on November 4, 2010, 4:49 pmI've highlighted what I see as key words. They play in their own countries so if there is any contraversy, it'd have to do with religion and not race. I don't see much religious tension in those countries but you cannot deny that there is racial tension in our country.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Nov 4 2010, 04:49 PM

Haven't been reading/watching the news since, oh, the last 10~20 years?

I guess not.

Read it. Got it. My mistake oh wise one. Time for me to descend the mountain.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Nov 5 2010, 12:19 PM

Well I was only saying that you were wrong at that point. Mostly I agree with you on the other points, thus it was just a friendly sarcasm

Well I thought my "descending the mountain" crack was pretty alright though some wouldn't have got it

Pasukan Melayu kedah telah berjaya melangkah ke peringkat suku akhir setelah Melayu Selangor tewas 3-4 kepada pasukan tuan rumah, Melayu Perak. Dan perlawanan malam esok bertemu Melayu Perak merupakan misi untuk menjadi juara Kumpulan C


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This post has been edited by HangPC2: Nov 7 2010, 10:15 AM

i have to care when Chinese do not involve in our football. They compromise of more than 30% of the population and hold more than 50% of the nation's wealth. So if we want to have an industry that reflect's Malaysia's true pontential, we must include them in the game. Both pull and ush factor must be considered.

wow i cannot believe what im reading. Malay want Chinese to be active in football?

I thought from all those things i read from /k they would just be happy to holocaust all of us.

/k/ is racist la brader

/k id not the best place to gauge people mindset. It is filled with with racist trolls who have attention-deficit issues..

From what i read, people have only have problem with mainland Chinese (mainly towards the bias referee then the actual Chinese team) then the Malaysian ones. Even so, there are several Malaysian Chinese troublemakers who use every opportunity to take cheap potshots. Its understandable since its /k after all..

General consensus in real Malaysia football supporting world, Malay or Indian, i cannot find anyone with the intention to holocaust the Chinese. We understand that the Chinese do that to themselves in the name of freewill. They also find it necessary to bring real world issues into football itself and equates supporting Malaysia football or Malaysian national team to suppoting the goverment of the day.

Which is a complete and utter bullshit..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 15 2010, 10:02 AM

and your point is?

im Malay, but TBH i cant see why this sort of association /competition (Piala Emas) /club relevant these days..

for sentimental /historical reason maybe.. play at weekend, match for the elders, kampong level competition for fun and recreational etc. but i think government /YB or any sensible corporate body should stop helping and give financial support, sponsorship to them.

the most aspect i love about sports /football coz it should be tools to unite people beyond boundaries of religion, races, colour, nation etc.

its irrelevant nowadays and honestly its kindda stupid for me.. 1Malaysia? boleh bla..

This post has been edited by dundermifflin: Nov 15 2010, 12:33 PM

Kelantan kecewa, PBSMM Adabi kejutkan KWSP



Kelantan gagal layak ke pusingan akhir apabila sekadar seri 3-3 menentang Selangor dalam aksi terakhir Kumpulan A Lelaki yang berakhir semalam di Kompleks Sukan Triways, Shah Alam. Walaupun berkongsi 14 mata dengan pasukan lain, Kelantan terpaksa akur apabila kelebihan jaringan tidak memihak kepada mereka. Pasukan lain yang layak dari Kumpulan A adalah Felda United selaku juara kumpulan, Pulau Pinang, Selangor PKNS dan Selangor.

Kumpulan B pula menyaksikan Pahang mencatat kemenangan ke atas T-Team dan melayakkan mereka menjadi juara kumpulan. Turut mengiringi Pahang adalah Johor FC dan Selangor MPSJ yang turut mencatat kemenangan ke atas lawan masing-masing. PBSMM Adabi yang dibarisi pasukan muda pula mengejutkan pasukan pilihan, Kuala Lumpur KWSP seterusnya layak ke pusingan akhir nanti.

Bagi Kategori Wanita, Kumpulan A diungguli Selangor yang tidak pernah tewas dan diiringi oleh pasukan Selangor PKNS, Felda United dan Angkatan Tentera Malaysia (ATM)

Kumpulan B pula menyaksikan pasukan Selangor MPSJ, Sabah UMS, PDRM dan Selangor MBPJ turut layak ke pusingan akhir.

Pusingan Akhir Liga Futsal Kebangsaan Felda FAM 2010 akan diadakan di Kompleks Sukan Negara, Seksyen 20, Shah Alam pada 26, 27 dan 28 November dengan 4 pasukan teratas setiap kumpulan layak ke Pusingan Akhir.


Sources : http://sukanmania.com/

im a bit curious, this PBSMM only allow 'Malay' to be their members?

what about Piala Emas Raja Raja? only 'Malay' can be registered and play?

This is really something we don't need... Sports, has the ability to unite people, regardless of skin colour, religion or race so why has the FAM allow it to come to this?

As it is, we are already seeing a racial divide among the amateur ranks. Just go to any futsal or football tournament in Malaysia, and I guarantee you that 98% of the teams are NOT multi-racial. Heck, you don't even need a tournament to see that. You can see it happening everyday at any futsal centre in and around town, where the Malays play with the Malays, the Chinese with the Chinese and the Indians with the Indians.

I remember about 10 years ago when I was bumming around after SPM and decided to join the young 12-13 year olds for a kickabout. Horror of horrors, the teams were Malays vs Chinese/Indians!! I remember giving them a good lecture about it and from then onwards they never divided the teams that way again.

The point I'm trying to make is, is that outside of sport, the kids already have enough negative influences about race or rather the superiority of any particular race. What kind of message are we sending out to the kids if 'professional' footballers also play for their teams based on race?

i also wondering about that too..

if i am not mistake, there are Indians playing in PDRM team...

and i am sure team PBSMM will hire foreign imports once they are allowed again...

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Added on November 15, 2010, 1:38 pmi would rather have Malays vs Chinese/Indians then Malays vs Malays only.. at least this way you can leacture them to play together...

How would you promote national unity when you come to the field and find there are only Malays there?

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Added on November 15, 2010, 1:41 pmi dont find it relevant for Malays and Indians to create a team as these guys already actively involved. But i do support a Chinese team. Penang use to win the Malaysia Cup with a team that have many Chinse players... i miss those days..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 15 2010, 02:00 PM

Guys..This is turning into a racing thread..
If you guys want to race please proceed to Sportschannel/k/RWI/
Please do not bring racing into football lounge.

Sports and race/religion/politics DO NOT mix. Propagating/promoting stuff like 'Melayu' Malaysia is unwise and unnecessary in our current climate of racial tension. If anything 'race exclusiveness' should be discouraged. I miss my school days back in Sabah when we would be cheering on our classmates of all races (I was always sadly kaki bangku) when we took on all comers in our little padang. We weren't exactly great, but it was one of the few times when everyone (rich, poor, smart, less smart, chinese, malay, kadazan, dusun, bajau and the few Indians ) were true equals!

On another note,

its a good job by Astro Arena to air live matches of Piala Emas Raja-Raja...

giving any underground tournament some mainstream exposure will create awareness to the public on our football scene..

hope they continue to do so with Bardhan Cup, MCFA Cup, University League, FAM Cup and MSSM Finals..

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Added on November 15, 2010, 1:59 pm i do not thinks our discussion have reached an unhealthy level. Up until now, all opinion has been given with utmost respect to one another..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 15 2010, 02:01 PM

i used to heard ping pong /basketball competition for non Chinese. or non Malay Sepaktakraw.

maybe the intention are good, to promote those sports to non <certain ethnic>. to give certain ethnics different category so they can compete among themselves.

but ill never agree with it. sports are the perfect tools to unite people. let be color blind on this matter. who care if u are <certain ethnic>, if u are good enough to compete, u are in.

if this kind culture /practice encourage by the authority, 1Malaysia are just rhetoric..

for amateur /lowly level competition, if suitable, apply regulation to encourage multiracial team (eg every entry must consists at least 2 ethnics)

This post has been edited by dundermifflin: Nov 15 2010, 03:25 PM

to be fair, the authorities (FAM) never force any association members to only include specific race in their team. What do they enforce is, each member association must send a team to compete in the M-League.... and FAM's member associations that never send a team before are PBSMM. MCFA and MIFA..

FAM couldn't care less if PBSMM's team consist of Malay, Iban , Bidayuh , Indian or Chinese as long as they send one to compete....

This will work well for grass root development as these race base football association has a better managed amateur level competition compare to state FAs, and talents from these competition can be upgraded to professional level through their association teams.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 15 2010, 03:36 PM

yes for secondary school level ... ping pong for malay ... the reason given is malay can't fight with chinese who is the better race in playing ping pong ... so they create a category for malay only. so i cant see this being any racist as this will encourage malay to take out the sports.

This post has been edited by BoltonMan: Nov 16 2010, 04:50 PM

PIALA EMAS RAJA-RAJA SEPARUH AKHIR



Terengganu Vs Kelantan


Kedah Vs Johor

There are misconception that Piala Emas Raja2 only allows Malay participants.

PBSMM is only the event organizer. There are no such rule to limit the players to any particular race.

But i am quite confused about the professional level of the participant. Some are full Super League players and some are President Cuppers. Formers players..

what are the rule actually about that? And how to decide which player eligible to play for which state?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Dec 1 2010, 02:53 PM

Yup, think I saw it in the news recently that they are allowing pro players from the M-league to participate, in order to improve the competition. But not sure of the details.

Kelantan juara Puncak Piala Emas Raja-Raja 2010




KELANTAN memang hebat



Semalam, mereka muncul juara kejohanan bola sepak Puncak Piala Emas Raja-Raja Ke-70 selepas menewaskan Kedah 4-3 menerusi penentuan sepakan penalti selepas terikat tanpa jaringan sehingga tamat masa tambahan pada aksi yang berlangsung di Stadium Sultan Muhammed IV, Kota Bharu, lapor ZAID MOHD. NOOR.

Jaringan Kelantan dilakukan oleh Rosairil Asrol Mat Nor, Mohamad Aris Zaidi, Ahmad Ezrie Shafizie Sazali dan Khairan Ezuan Razali.

Gol Kedah pula dijaringkan oleh Ahmad Fauzi Shaari, Shafizan Hashim dan Mohd. Firus Hashim.

Bagaimanapun, Kelantan mempunyai peluang terbaik pada minit kelapan apabila penyerangnya, Mohamad Ramzul Zahini Adenan yang melakukan gerakan cantik memasuki kotak penalti tetapi bola ditolak keluar pemain lawan sebelum sempat pemain itu melakukan rembatan ke gol.


- Kosmo -

This thread lacks information about the club itself

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Added on December 15, 2010, 10:59 amAnd by that, what I actually meant was it lacks daily/weekly updates.

This post has been edited by Rhadykall: Dec 15 2010, 10:59 AM

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This post has been edited by dude14: Dec 15 2014, 12:52 AM

Hahaha thread apa la ni, pasal personal football club pun nak bukak therad kat football lounge....Mod x delete thread ni pun aku rasa sbb takut kena tuduh racist, mcm thread syok sendiri je

jadi apa masalah kau..