@little ice

We did started out like that back then..hahaha. Still remember the olden days where we kena kutuk kau kau by our seniors for not quantizing our arrangement...lolz.

@Stevenc89

Do take heed to what ice said. He knows what he's saying as he's a professional music arranger and gone thru the years of making music for local artist etc.

My comments are:

1. Timing is not spot on.
2. Clash notes..you need to watch out for that.
3. Lot's of bass sustain under the whole track..could be your usage of pedal.

Do understand this. Notes will be notes. Notes does not convey emotions. I can play lot's of notes but when there is not emotions, it will just be bunch of noise.

What you need now is to play your piano with emotions and of course proper notations of notes to carry your emotion thru your playing.

As for your strings, you still needs heaps of work and alot of listening. Let's take an example of a violin player. When he or she bows the violin, there's always either long or short notes and volume varies (loud to soft or soft to loud) to convey the emotions of his or her playing. Same goes when you arrange your string sections. Be mindful of the emotions you're conveying.

Cheers

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 8 2010, 01:30 AM

@ice

Clicking notes..that's a no no for musos..hahaha.

For dance stuff, the drums and fx are mostly from Wavfiles (layering) but i dislike using prerecorded samples and will never use them. I do all my synths, bass etc via keys, no clicky..hahahaha. Btw, i gotten me self a Access Virus TI Desktop. A long awaited instruments i desired since the 90's. Superb synth dude.

@Stevenc89

I highly recommend that you get a keyboard (M-Audio Keystation 88es) and maybe get a audio hardware bundled with a music arranging software.

Check out these links:

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Keystation88es.html

http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=58

You may check out Ableton or Cubase 5 as well.

As for music degree, i got none but 17 years in the music industry helps. You just gotta keep listening to various types of music and never be proud just because you're a musician. Pride will kill you.

Since this discussion is heading into recording, let's move over to this thread instead https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/161697 and keep this thread for others to showcase their music.

Cheers

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 9 2010, 12:44 PM

Some study sound engineering/music production via local our music schools like SAE, ICOM etc and of course the well known Berklee College of Music. Some of us are fortunate to have met musicians who are already in the music industry or have tutored under them hence we had a pretty smooth transition into the industry.

Some form bands like Love me Butch, Pop Shuvit, Disagree, Army of Three, King n Queens, Altered Frequency, One Buck Short, Tempered Mental and many more.

Yes, we saw your mesage and i know we had this "My Songs" thread made earlier hence merged Stevenc89 thread with this existing thread.

I reckon this thread is suffice enough since everyone shared/posted thier music here. I do notice not everyone is mindful of pinned threads hence it's better to let this thread float.

Cheers

Thanks mate for the birthday wishes.

I just got into trance like 2 months ago and still lot's of stuff to learn and Virus TI is truly amazing but sadly, it cost a bom to buy one.

Btw, Trimix will be playing in QE2 club in Penang, 30th October. Those who are in Penang, do join us if you're free and will be great to meet up LYN musos.


Here's my take/comments.

The intro should start with only the bass drum v hihats and then, proceed to introduce other music elements before the full music section comes in.

1. Overall is pretty alrite but could use some drive or push to give the song some edge.
2. Selection of sounds need to improve.
3. Seperation of instruments are not there yet. Maybe this is a rough mix as it's sounding slight blunt?
4. Melody is not strong enough or so to say..not distinctive enough. Make the melody stand out more and memorable as well.
5. The drop needs to be more emphasized and the build up needs more dynamics.
6. Some instruments could use some sidechain like bass, strings, arpeggiated synth etc to help unclutter the clashing of sounds.
7. Could use cutoff filters to do some interesting transitions.

Hope this helps.

Anyway, here's a preview track called Transit by TRIMIX: http://soundcloud.com/davidgary73/trimix-transit-preview

Cheers

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 15 2010, 02:45 AM

Thanks for the birthday wishes and the birthday song mate. Cheers

I'll get straight to your questions.

1. do you mean using 'drive' ? like overdrive effect?
A: Not overdrive effects. It's more of the "Ummph" which your song is missing. Maybe because of the choice of sounds you're using that is not helping to give that push.
Maybe the best example would be to compare the kick sound from your tune and Transit track. As you can hear on the Transit track, the kick is punchy, solid and tight while on your track, the kick it's kinda blur and not punchy enough. So the choice of sound makes a great deal in making the song groovy and punchy as well hence you get the push or the drive.

2. could you elaborate more regarding the selection of sounds?
A:
a. Take example your kick, currently is is sounding pretty muddy. Try swapping it with a tighter, snapier kick sound. EQ with some highs.
b. Your bass sound could be fatter and rounder. May need to Eq some low freqs off.
c. Try layering synths sounds as well. Stack the sound on top of each other. You can get some real nice sounds.
d. Eq will help your intruments to sound good as well.

3. compression is still one of the thing i need to master, probably that's the reason of 'blunt' and 'rough mix', i seriously need a guidance on this, and yes it consider a rough mix, as i spent weeks to create the melody and ect, and spent 1 hour to wrap it up in the end.
A: Ya..I reckon it was a rough mix as i can hear is not properly balance. Compression is one thing and mixing is another. Mxing takes time to learn and it's not easy. You need to listen to lot's of music reference. Listen to the sound used and the mix.

4. melody wise i will try to improve.
A: Make your melody simpler and yet memorable. This works for dance music in general.

5. yes, dropping and built up requires more punch, which i think i have to study more about it. almost all of my tracks lacks of the punch.
A: You may wanna take out the kick right before the drop hence it will leave room for you to bring it down gently. For build up, do a 16th note or 32th note kick build in with volume automation. You can use synth efx to build it as well.

6. at the time of producing that track, i still do not know how to use side chain yet. hahaha...
A; Just do some search via google on how to use sidechain compression in FL studio. Sidechain is a big thing or so to say, the "Holy grail technique" a must use technique in every dance music at the current dance trend.

7. while using cutoff in FL studio, it created a lot of clipping sounds, which one of the reasons i avoid using filters
A: You can use Eq plugins to do cutoff as well if your FL plugin filter in not helping you.

mind sharing what tools (hardware/software) do you use?

I'm on a Macpro, using Logic Pro 8, Motu UltraLite, Access Virus Ti Desktop and soft synths from Sylenth1, Spectrasonic Omnisphere, lot's of usage on ES2 logic plugins and rhythm sections are all wavefiles, no loops.

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Oct 16 2010, 12:46 AM

Kindly do not post or promote any facebook link. Do it via your signature.

Youtube videos or soundcloud, your website links etc would be highly appreciated.

Thank you

This post has been edited by davidgary73: Jul 19 2011, 02:53 PM