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post Mar 15 2011, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 15 2011, 11:17 AM)
sbux, no la... she give in front of me dry.gif say it's good for baby... u think i rajin do this ar? i just hehehe oooo like that lo... wat can i say? if i say anything then say i stubborn lo etc... bb hasn't started on solids yet... it's the gao li sheng mix wif air beras... that's y got air beras... sigh... too heaty eh... she gives abt 3-4 tablespoons... mil n hb always keep saying me n bb is heaty ppl... then y give bb this mixture le? aiyo... btw i haven't told hb abt this... dunno if mil told him abt it... i dun wanna tell him coz scared later he'll get sandwiched or say i'm disturbing the family harmony, not being a good wife dry.gif bb din sleep well throughout the nite... keeps waking up n not going back to sleep... usually he wakes up but i can still nurse him to sleep... yesterday kenot... sad.gif

this is one thing to remember if living wif the inlaws... they'll b the one on the rite side coz we r first time parents ma... sure dunno how to handle a bb... sigh...
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really you are such a patient and good DIL
i would hv complained to my hubby and also told my MIL off. I dont care if hubby gets sandwiched, he should stand up for the truth and not just some traditional beliefs. Disturbing family harmony? ask your hubby to stay in your parents house and see how he likes it...

I think yr baby might hv been having digestion problems thats why he could not sleep... no doubt, since u already gave him his first solid feeding indirectly... not sure if your baby's digestion is ready for any kind of complex carbo or not

as for today's air beras feeding, pls tell yr MIL abt the sleepless nights and how harmful it is for your baby's tummy


Added on March 15, 2011, 2:11 pm
QUOTE(qarezma @ Mar 15 2011, 02:02 PM)
really you are such a patient and good DIL
i would hv complained to my hubby and also told my MIL off. I dont care if hubby gets sandwiched, he should stand up for the truth and not just some traditional beliefs. Disturbing family harmony? ask your hubby to stay in your parents house and see how he likes it...

I think yr baby might hv been having digestion problems thats why he could not sleep... no doubt, since u already gave him his first solid feeding indirectly... not sure if your baby's digestion is ready for any kind of complex carbo or not

as for today's air beras feeding, pls tell yr MIL abt the sleepless nights and how harmful it is for your baby's tummy
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u know my MIL suggested to give 'nestum' in baby's milk at 2 months, cos he used to be urinating often (like HELLO?), and crying for milk at nite (duh!). I buat dunno, but one day she told hubby oso...

Thank god hubby is very logical and hands on with baby. During our paed visit, i purposely asked abt giving nestum to baby at that age and he told no solids till 6 months cos baby digestion is not properly developed.

After that when MIL mentioned 'nestum' again, hubby told her politely.

Get your hubby to be more hands on and aware on childcare.

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post Mar 15 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Mar 15 2011, 02:53 PM)
Your MIL is very lucky to have a DIL like you you and very very lucky we arent' her DIL as I would definitely wage a war!

I think it's about time for you to be firm.  Especially letting your husband know and saying that this is your child..not hers.
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haha well said!!

dont say the 'this is your child, not theirs'
With ILs like yours, i think they will get easily offended.. i used that line once, and i tell u they got so angry, it was probably the most serious row between ILs and myself... that was during my 1 month confinement stay with them.. dont want that ever again

apart from keeping hubby hands on and updated with babycare (whatever i read in books or online), I always emphasize to him, while our parents upbringing last time may not have been completely WRONG, it is not RIGHT either. With the developing world and technology, we must keep up with latest findings and BEST PRACTICES with baby, because we dont want any negative consequences... baby is our LIFE.

Always ask questions to your paed.. during our each visit last time, we used to have like 5-6 questions we compile to korek while we are paying the consultation fees... and let hubby be aware
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post Mar 15 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 15 2011, 03:48 PM)
phythia, ya... it's painful yet i can't do anything abt it... it's not like falling out of love kind of ez... sometimes when i'm alone i'ld tell bb that is mummy treating u rite? sorry can't protect u... u always get to drink/eat funny stuffs... cry.gif

qarezma, hb dun go to paed wif me anymore... so i go alone... actually i go to klinik kesihatan smile.gif the last visit he asked me if i can handle bb alone... i said y not? my tots were funny ler... if i say kenot tomolo u take mc issit... wat u said r rite... i think i'll use ur quote next time... let's c how... coz i always gets accuse of toking back dry.gif

all i can say is if i stay firm, it'll b either hb or bb... both r my hands... how? chop them off? chop one off? things will b as serious as separation coz when i stay firm i can b very stubborn... sigh... if u feel me gimme a pat on the back... i'm still lucky so far coz bb still bf smile.gif
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salute the BF part smile.gif

i know i am also the aggressive talking back type, and it doesnt go well with hubby, he is super sensitive i tell u! So i take the logical and informative approach la.. surely every father/mother want the best for their baby mah...
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post Mar 16 2011, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 15 2011, 04:16 PM)
qarezma, will try to tok the other way round... i've always wanted to say we r born in diff era, our parents r born in diff era n our bb is born now... 50s there's no computer or washing machine n life is hard... 80s after merdeka, life is getting better, got tv n fridge... now 2011 computer, washing machine, LED TV, fridge, freezer... always ask me y i can't hand wash, cook, do house chores... then u give up all the computer n tv then i'll hand wash n cook properly n not face the computer anymore... whistling.gif but saying this will b drastic eh? hehe... last time we fight i emailed (yes email) him that me n bb will b fine wif or without him... if he wants bb to b like him then ask mil to take k of the bb... if he wants an obedient wife then find another wife... all i want is bb... no matter he's ugly or not he's my boy... he was inside of me for 10 mths... tongue.gif so i think that email got into him... but that din make things better la... i just sort of let him know my stand... if one day i kenot tahan anymore that email will b served as my last reminder tongue.gif bad huh? oh ya next time hope to hear from u that ur bf is a success~! flex.gif


Added on March 15, 2011, 5:46 pmso despite my protest mil went ahead wif the mixture... i already compromised saying just give him a bit... "he din sleep well last nite" she said "it's just air beras mixed wif it...  besides it's not the real thing... it's imitation/fake of it... just a bit... air beras is mild one... won't harm the bb... if i could i wouldn't give him drink... it's coz his heart is weak that he sweats cold... this will help him... if u dun do now it'll b too late... i'm not that rajin la..." i felt so helpless that i wish i could cry my heart out but only in silence... of coz i wasn't happy so my face wasn't happy... tonite will tell hb n c wat he says... but man, i soooooooooooooo... dunno wat to say... perhaps u can feel how i feel... no words can describe it... i'm his mum... can't i say no? u guys can say no n stop me but y couldn't i? cry.gif
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thx i am gonna gear up better BF knowledge the next round smile.gif

how did your baby behave last night? How she knows abt the weak heart all, she is heart surgeon or what.. haiz just go to the paed and get it sorted out... feels so sick listening to some illogical reasoning la...

i guess from the beginning your MIL got so much power, she really knows how to push u to do something... some more reading from the other thread, looks like your MIL is indeed the head of the family. Difficult situation for you as u are living with them already... sigh.. hang in there... i dont know how to advice u to stop her some more... i would say talk to your hubby.. hehe but here go again huh
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post Mar 16 2011, 11:38 AM

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yeah, i read abt the durian stuff.
I dont blame you or your ILs, true enuf your upbringing and lifestyle is different, and this is sort of a clash of different people... i know and cant imagine how would it be if i were to stay with my ILs permanently, i will go MAD!

hang in there... try to soothe him your best known method...
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post Mar 16 2011, 12:47 PM

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tell him why he is so shallow take this as a competition? isnt it your life, your baby, your family together? if compete, what u get? u only want the best for your family and baby... it is a win-win situation

aiyoo your hubby mentality so sad la
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post Mar 16 2011, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 16 2011, 01:33 PM)
qarezma, mayb me n hb already biasa wif arguing n c who wins... that's y he say like that... sigh...

syd, at first i tot no harm la living his parents... then my mum warned me abt living wif inlaws... i tot nah... but then it's a diff story... last time i told my hb, ask our son to get a house before married... if live together better state the rules n wat i will n won't do tongue.gif clear cut from beginning rather than suffering at the end...

but i guess wat my fren say might b logically... i just married into the family n before we all comfortable or understood wif each other *bam* i got preggy... therefore becoming conflict after bb born... dunno how much of it is true but i'm kinda starting to eat it... coz it happened to her own sis smile.gif
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ok la usually when hubby and i argue oso he will say y i always want to win, so i tell him it is our life together, i am not winning a prize or something, it is for the better of our live, why see who win or lose? having said that.. there are times when i give in to hubby's idea oso if they are better than mine

no dear, it is not that process.. it is just the simple fact abt living with your ILs. Ask your mom back, why she warned you earlier.. it is like that. The bestest of the DIL and MIL still can argue... they are both not wrong, but they are both woman of different personality... arguments are bound to happen.. worst still if u got your hubby's sister living in the same house oso... same case there... woman vs woman is the worst kind of world war


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post Mar 16 2011, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 16 2011, 02:58 PM)
qarezma, my mum was saying how can two tigers live in one mountain? laugh.gif ya... nothing is like a woman's wrath...

phythia, cross finger lo...
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EXACTLY! even mother and daughter will fight if staying together!
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post Mar 16 2011, 04:05 PM

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yes yes my hopes are on a girl next, and i will close shop. But if i get boy oso, i will be thankful as long as baby is healthy.

i wanna go shopping for girly stuff!

phythia oso expecting ke?
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post Mar 16 2011, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Mar 16 2011, 04:12 PM)
Heheh..no no...not expecting.  I don't think I'm gonna try for another one.  Everything is getting expensive and I want to provide the best for my child..so if i get another child, I doubt i can provide the best....unless it's fated lar tongue.gif

On the other hand...i do wish i can get a girl..but looking at my husband's genes...the chances for a girl is pretty low.  I scared if i get another boy..i die..and my mom already warned me..if i get another one..i have to quit sad.gif (hence the providing best reason).

(I once dreamed that I have 4 boys! 4!! gosh! hahahah)
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oh no... 4 boys.. balance of both gender is needed.. otherwise not always the boys can be as how a girl will be... what am i talking abt... they r not meant to be like a girl.. i mean, as a mother we may not get the girl's companionship as how it should be.. LOL

why need to quit leh? your mother quitting from taking care is it?
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post Mar 18 2011, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Mar 18 2011, 09:36 AM)
I also worried..if i get outsiders..scared will ill-treat my child..too many horror stories lately.  If i get maid..no privacy..coz living in apartment..wanna walk in my panties also susah tongue.gif
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hubby oso concerned abt the same privacy reason.. walk naked in the room, or we will confine the maid to her room once we are at home.. lol
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post Mar 18 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Mar 18 2011, 10:40 AM)
hahaha..yeah..not to mention..if we wanna get adventurous.. wink.gif kekeke.  if got maid..really really susah.. LOL
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aiyoo u and my hubby same thinking la.. he is so concerned on going commando, and yea, those adventures...
even if my mom visits he feels a lil uncomfy cos he cant be topless/commando/etc
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post Mar 22 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Mar 20 2011, 09:15 PM)
YES YES!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

OK to be frank I didnt buy anything for her yet. Am thinking avocado brows.gif
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u referring to first solid?
first solid needs to be very running and diluted.. i am not sure if avocado can suit the bill
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post Mar 22 2011, 01:17 PM

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i gave my baby heinz rice cereal.. u can control the amount, runny-ness and also be sure that it is soft and fine enuf for a first feed
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post Mar 22 2011, 02:49 PM

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the rice cereal like very limited edition... it doesnt come in large numbers and finish fast.. if u got time, go see at cold storage at plaza pelangi... might hv there
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post Mar 23 2011, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(phythia79 @ Mar 23 2011, 09:29 AM)
nicKit..even though baby is on solid, they still rely on milk for most of the nutrients.  Coz their solid intake is lesser than...say a 1 yr old toddler.  Hence, milk is still their main meal. 

Now..i pump once a day..just about 4-5oz.  My son is slowly taking FM but I try to give him other source of calcium like yoghurt and oats.  Fresh milk..he used to like it but after 2-3 months..he rejected it.  I used to give him Dutch Lady Fresh Milk.  I know some moms gave the Australian Farmhouse...never tried that.


Added on March 23, 2011, 9:43 amIn case you were wondering, before 6 months, i'd usually pump 4 times a day (once before I go to work and 3 times at work) on the dot.  After 6 months, i cut down the pumping session about 3 times (1 time at home and twice at work).  After 1 year, I cut down to once a day (I would normally bf before i go to work, and pump 1 time after lunch).  Now, still at once a day but at a later time after work (coz breast is slightly full).
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you can also give cheese for the dairy intake...
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post Mar 23 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 23 2011, 10:36 AM)
phythia, will u still feel ur breast full during the early morning? if u pump after work still got milk for his before sleep n nite feeding?

sbux, it feels such a let down huh? i know how u feel... been there when me n hb first argue abt the bf n pumping part... well, do wat u feel rite... me... i've been standing by wat i've think it's rite for so long n will continue to do so coz i really dun like the idea of funny funny things going inside baby's stomach... it's a lonely journey but hey we do wat's best for baby... in case u can't bf dun blame urself... u did wat u could...

wat else i could give other than oats, cheese n milk after 6 mths in case i had to stop bf?
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oats u can give right when baby starts solid, but cheese & yogurt u need to wait till 8 months i think.. and provided your baby got no allergy towards it la
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 23 2011, 11:05 AM)
qarezma, i tot oats should wait till at least 1yo?

phythia, i was wondering la... now we've temporarily moved out... i can bf whenever n wherever i want... without interference brows.gif but when we move back i scared i could no longer bf sad.gif
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just like other cereals like rice, u can give oats when baby first start solids... forgot details but a lot of nutritional benefits

QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 23 2011, 11:30 AM)
phythia, yaya whistling.gif abt 1-2 mths only... that's when i just started the solid food... i scared when move back then more funny funny food for bb... coz how do u tell ur in laws that u wanna prepare ur own baby's food?
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wahh u are away from there for a while... how does it feel?
I hope ur hubby likes it and decides to stay that way permanently.. heheh...

i dont know abt your ILs, but my MIL is slow in doing work.. meaning bfast at 10am, lunch at 2/3pm.. etc.. so i just do my own prep for baby food.. she got no chance to interfere... usually we are visiting just for the weekend, so i will prepare from home and bring. Only once she managed to catch my speed.. she cooked chicken soup for bfast when we visited.. so my baby had chic soup that day smile.gif

otherwise one method how phythia says, just say that u dont want to burden yr MIL.. since baby food needs to be detailed and careful, let u take the trouble, not MIL...

porridge is ok during 7-8months... by making porridge u hv a lot of flexibility in adding veg varieties is your food, but put NO salt at all... u can give little salt after he is 1yo.. otherwise there is no rush


Added on March 23, 2011, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(grinner @ Mar 23 2011, 11:53 AM)
...uh I'm not quite sure what you ladies(?) mean by fresh milk, or your babies' ages, but just as a reminder to all, parents are not supposed to give fresh milk to babies under a year old... if it's processed cow/dairy milk, then it's okay e.g. cheese, yoghurt but definitely not plain dairy milk... forgot the reason though.

again, sorry if I missed the details, just a reminder to all of us  sweat.gif
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yea, i think we are aware, but thx anyway for the reminder...

my baby started yogurt & cheese at 8mo

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post Mar 23 2011, 12:37 PM

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i give cows milk to my baby.. i boil it before serving of course...
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QUOTE(nicKit @ Mar 23 2011, 01:37 PM)
qarezma, y boil the milk ar? i tot it's hard to clean the dish afterward... sorry noob in cooking... stay away permanent? kenot la... it's my parents' house, not ours... dry.gif no reason to stay permanent here... my MIL is fast one >.< hope n pray i dun offend them again... sigh... later they must have think this DIL very ma fan~!

phythia, rite on abt the porridge~! last time mil mentioned abt it... i just dengar saja lo... but really i oso dunno wat to prepare for him... potato? sweet potato? carrot? apple? but one thing for sure that i could imagine... must give baby eat full... no need to bf liao... he's big liao... u can keep ur milk... y u need to cook separately? baby can eat wat we eat liao... something like that...but i still hope that this situation won't happen... cross my fingers, toes, arms, legs n eyes that my solid food journey won't b as rough as bf journey...

btw should i get an electric warmer for the food? baby cubes for storing? 1oz or 2oz? wat else i need to prepare?
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the milk is direct from the cow and would hv some added water too.. so boiling is a way of killing bacteria & germs. Yes, hard to clean the dish, but u gotta do what u gotta do..nothing comes easy in this world tongue.gif

first food u give rice cereal.. for 4 days
after ok, give pumpkin/carrot/apple/pear for 4 days.. try 1 new food at a time, and once ok, u can give the fruit/veg+cereal... slowly once yr baby cover all the fruits and veg for his age, then u can start some porridge oso.

I used usual ice cube containers to freeze food, one compartment is usually 1 oz.. and some other small baby food containers as well... i use the microwave to warm up the food

for baby food guide refer to wholesomebabyfood.com... very good guide for what food what age

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