Sadly we have been labeled as unruly and always causing trouble. Kinda hard to fight of that stigmata when the press always stir that up.
Indeed.

Well passion does sometimes spill over. At the very least, you guys are somewhat organised. I've visited your fansites e.g. kelate.net or the redwarriors site and there is a lot of activity. Planning to organise bus loads of fans can't be easy. I've also spoken to people from KAFA and I must say that Kelantan football is going places, thanks to their vision.

Dude, chill. Sometimes, people just want to share. Yes, it's for you to know, but it doesn't hurt to share right. So, just share.

For me, the way I show my passion towards football is not only by supporting a football club but also by PLAYING football. Many people talk football, watch football matches, and wear football jerseys but how many of us actually play football?

I created a team that consist of people that don't actually play football (some of them hate it) and end up now playing football everyday, watch and analyze football matches together, and also organizing a competitive friendly matches every now and then.

The same group will also play futsal on Monday and Friday night which I organize week in week out. We tested out each method we learn from the football we watch every week. Maybe it didn't look as perfect as the professionals, but hey, at least we tried

We are not the greatest team in our place, but every week, be it in Football or Futsal, we are trying to improve and enjoy our game and that's for me it's the real passion towards football.

Again, it's just from my POV and never meant to show that I'm "holier than anybody".

This post has been edited by gto87: Oct 28 2010, 02:06 PM

Thanks for the sharing and you are indeed passion to the game of football.

FYI those idiots never was here to share anything but try to ruins thread and create arguments.They are negative and dont worth your time mate.
Juz laugh at them thats all you need to do

This post has been edited by beandy: Oct 28 2010, 02:11 PM

yeah. like calling people low class and idiots - very passionate. MATE~

It is ironic that TS created this topic.

Yes right words for right people

I guess you need to have a "beandy seal of approval" to be deemed a passionate supporter. Those who don't meet his criteria is low class. There's a reason I don't share my passion HERE

@gto87, it's not wrong to share. But the fact is there's someone who is making the "judgement" here, who is passionate, who is not, who is more passionate, who's the idiot. if u share and TS thinks it's good, then passionate u are. Does it work that way? That's why I say I rather be judged on my passion based on my actions and thoughts, or proper posts in the MU thread, as well as joining constructive discussions in rival threads. I have no doubt those who shared here is passionate, but I don't have to have TS to decide who is and who is not. And also the generalization that is so obviously based on TS' view, which is ironic because if u are trully passionate to football, u won't look down at other fans or the so called "that group".

This post has been edited by pyroboy1911: Oct 28 2010, 02:44 PM

Understood. I just want to share. Actually, I want more people to share and I like their stories so far except for the bashing. So as long as we keep the thread clean, it's ok already.

You can talk about it in MU thread but it's only between MU fans or maybe some rivals that visit your thread. Here, it's more general, so I rather we share it here. Just ignore the person you don't like.

As for me, I'm a Kedah fan, and I'm not actually sad that our team loss the other day. Believe me or not, I'm happy to see a good team like Kelantan can progress, and they're actually the one who deserves to win any cups in Malaysia for time being.

It's a matter of perspective in terms of blaming. Most of other fans will always blame Kelantan fans for acting like a bunch of idiots, but that's partly because they have less experience going to the rivals stadium. Every team has at least one fan acting like that, we can't really change it. So just go with the flow dude.

Also, enjoy this moment. People will forgot this version of Kelantan soon. Keep all the youtube clips to show that Kelantan did play beautifully once. For me, most of the Malaysians don't know how to appreciate football and changes that a team brought to the field.

Take Kedah in the era of Double treble, how many appreciated their gameplay? How many of Malaysian analyze and tried it? Rather than doing that, FAM went on to ruin the Malaysian football by shifting off all the foreign players. We're back to square one.

I'm not being biased or obsessed but that Kedah team was the best team that Malaysia ever produced and Azrai Khor tried more than 4 formations during his tenure in Kedah and succeeded. But nobody remembers. Nobody talks about that not even the pundits. No offense but they talk more about Selangor than any other Football clubs. I don't understand why...

So like I said before, enjoy this moments, keep all the highlights and support your team all out because like it or not, it will change.

This post has been edited by gto87: Oct 28 2010, 02:51 PM

Well then too bad for you bcos unfotunately your from a club that supported by low class people and hence made your team looks bad.
Try scroll back to the beginning which bunch try to provoke things when this is suppose to be some descent chat ..so like i said im responding with the right words to the right people.
So too bad for you but this bunch of idiots are making the fool out of the club name Arsenil.

This post has been edited by beandy: Oct 28 2010, 03:09 PM

my neighbor once told me , he can hear my passionate screaming during football matches at 3am .......

provoking u say? look who's talking:

But when others insult, then u say low class. There's a saying that goes "hypocrites are insulting themselves at the end". I think ive made my point loud and clear, so cya! enjoy rating other's passion ya!

I did not know that there is a club which permits only the high class supporter??? let me think for a while...Real Madrid? Manchester City? Bah...THey are just some rich football club which welcomes all kinds of football fans whether they are high or low class. I did not know there is even a classification of football fans. I will not really call myself high class though I am from a classical music family or we interact with the higher class in the hierarchy of the society pyramid... We treat everyone fair and nice if we happened to know each other.

And we happened to know each other more because we probably have something in common. When we have something in common it means we like it and care to share something out of it.

I don't go laughing at a beggar with arsenal cap on him, i will not even do that at my rival fans because its football that we love and each of us have our own preferences which is what your thread is talking about. PASSION about football.

Why are you classifying everyone now? Because you're a thread starter? Nope, being a social philosopher grants you the right to write theories about it but being a thread starter, its good if you stop doing that so others can pay you respect when visiting your thread.

Generally, standing at a neutral point, if you assumed me as someone who don't know football. You make yourself look like creating a thread just to lead yourself a majority of individuals here to bash against a certain group of people and i can see a particular club is highly associated with the latter.

udah2 la tu .. adoi... cant we just get along with each other guys. be happy with what u have/feel/whatever la.

well said, spot on

u r in no position to judge people, mate.

this is epic thread. from how passionate towards football becoming how passionate towards getting into fight thread. sad case.

What I find extremely funny. TS creates thread with points emphasizing MU fans don't watch football, Liv fans are hard heads, and Arsenal fans don't understand football.

So what, Spurs fans like you must be saintly while the rest are low class and idiotic?

Hater's gonna hate obviously.

Low class has nothing to do with beggar or rich family..is from attitude.
Juz like you bunch im spot on.There is no intention whatsoever to come here to share your passion or objective of this thread.Untill now you guys try to defend the phrase i said 'arsenal self proclaim fans dont understand much of football..BUTTHurt? lol
Now from wat i see you guys are worse than that cos u dont understand the thread objective and more interested in provoking this statement of mine.lol

Lets now hear from more Assanal fans.We are welcome to see whether u are in here to reply to the thread (u will get respect) or provoke more arguments.
From there it explain what class you are so No need me to say it.And so far all the respond from this club fan are disappointing.tsk tsk ..Clearly and absolute low class...as usual

This post has been edited by beandy: Oct 28 2010, 04:03 PM

It isn't a competition as some have said so what's wrong with sharing instead of going on the defensive? It could be that you stay up until 5am to watch all European games. It could be that you collect newspapers clippings, something I did when I followed Selangor years ago. It could be that you only buy original merchandise. It could be that you buy books on your club. If you don't do anything, then it simply means you aren't all that passionate but what's wrong with that if it's true?