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jessica128
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Sep 13 2011, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Sep 8 2011, 04:59 PM) There you go. You knew of the leaks and the vendor sold it to you with a discount due to the leaks. Force majeure does not apply in your case. You can't terminate it. You had purchased the house on an "as-is-where-is" condition. It came with the leaks, and you got a discount in lieu of the vendor repairing same. If you had informed me this in your first post much time would've been saved instead of beating around the bush. This is as far as I can advise you. If you want to proceed further please seek legal advice from another lawyer apart from your SPA lawyer. Good luck.  Dario,nowe i find out the property have termites and the pipes all block no water coming out .can i terminate the trandsactions with these reason?
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lyt25_1234
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Sep 13 2011, 03:52 PM
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Hi dariofoo,
Right now my bank has finally closed my house loan account, then I proceed to call up my buyer's lawyer for the status and told me that it's better that I call up my bank to ask to expedite the transfer of the title to the new owner. And so I did that and my bank said it will take about 1 week or so to get it done.
So question is, is there a way to push the bank to hurry up on the transfer as the SPA I signed is already late by a week. I am afraid the buyer's lawyer will charge me 8% interest.
Please advise.
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Auwen
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Sep 14 2011, 01:26 AM
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Opps...i need some advise n help...my case is like tat, i buying a property recently...but this property got a tendancy until march,2012 and i believe the name transfer process will take place before year end 2011! Now...i need the house for living purpose. Can i ask the tenant to move out from tat house (terminate the tendancy) ??? Is it law allow us to do tat?? Sorry, this is my 1st time ... Still got plenty things to learn....
This post has been edited by Auwen: Sep 14 2011, 01:27 AM
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Milo_O
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Sep 14 2011, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(Auwen @ Sep 14 2011, 01:26 AM) Opps...i need some advise n help...my case is like tat, i buying a property recently...but this property got a tendancy until march,2012 and i believe the name transfer process will take place before year end 2011! Now...i need the house for living purpose. Can i ask the tenant to move out from tat house (terminate the tendancy) ??? Is it law allow us to do tat?? Sorry, this is my 1st time ... Still got plenty things to learn.... U have to look at the tenancy agreement betwn the current owner and the tenant if they got sign tenancy agreement. Otherwise, the best way is to request the seller to deal with u only when the property is vacant.
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Auwen
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Sep 14 2011, 02:54 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « QUOTE(Milo_O @ Sep 14 2011, 10:00 AM) U have to look at the tenancy agreement betwn the current owner and the tenant if they got sign tenancy agreement. Otherwise, the best way is to request the seller to deal with u only when the property is vacant. Ya...erm...if the agreement do mentioned it...mean i have no choice and to be waited until the tenancy agreement finish...?? another question, since the owner is change, does it mean the agreement bet the ex-owner and the tenant no longer valid ....?? unless there is specified...rite??? This post has been edited by Auwen: Sep 14 2011, 02:54 PM
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 14 2011, 03:02 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(jessica128 @ Sep 13 2011, 01:09 PM) Dario,nowe i find out the property have termites and the pipes all block no water coming out .can i terminate the trandsactions with these reason? Please bring this to the attention of your SPA lawyer. He can advise you further in this. I've advised you as best as I can. Thank you.
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 14 2011, 03:06 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Sep 13 2011, 03:52 PM) Hi dariofoo, Right now my bank has finally closed my house loan account, then I proceed to call up my buyer's lawyer for the status and told me that it's better that I call up my bank to ask to expedite the transfer of the title to the new owner. And so I did that and my bank said it will take about 1 week or so to get it done. So question is, is there a way to push the bank to hurry up on the transfer as the SPA I signed is already late by a week. I am afraid the buyer's lawyer will charge me 8% interest. Please advise. 1 week is good and fast. Normally 10 working days max is granted to the vendor's financier. As you are unrepresented, the burden is on you to call the bank and push them to rush it. I can't see any other way, though as I said, 1 week is fast enough. Why you afraid of late penalty interest (LPI)? If delay from your side, normally completion date will be extended only. Interest only accrues from your side if you receive the balance purchase price in full and do not surrender VP to the purchaser within 3 working days (normally). So you read up the terms of the SPA and do your calculation accordingly. If the delay is from the purchaser, then he has to pay LPI to you, not the other way around.
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 14 2011, 03:09 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(Auwen @ Sep 14 2011, 01:26 AM) Opps...i need some advise n help...my case is like tat, i buying a property recently...but this property got a tendancy until march,2012 and i believe the name transfer process will take place before year end 2011! Now...i need the house for living purpose. Can i ask the tenant to move out from tat house (terminate the tendancy) ??? Is it law allow us to do tat?? Sorry, this is my 1st time ... Still got plenty things to learn.... Your SPA will reflect what happens to the tenancy at the end of the transaction. Your lawyer would've been alerted as to the tenancy and would've sorted it out with the vendor. Do read up your SPA and see what is stated there with regard to the tenancy. If nothing is mentioned then it is the duty of the vendor to get rid of the tenant and surrender VP to you upon receipt of the balance purchase price, thus completing the transaction. If he does not surrender VP to you then he has to pay you penalty. So, the law is up to what is stated in the your SPA. Do dig it up and read the terms. Have you checked with your lawyer on this also? Please do that as well.
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 14 2011, 03:12 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(Auwen @ Sep 14 2011, 02:54 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Ya...erm...if the agreement do mentioned it...mean i have no choice and to be waited until the tenancy agreement finish...?? another question, since the owner is change, does it mean the agreement bet the ex-owner and the tenant no longer valid ....?? unless there is specified...rite??? In a tenancy agreement there would usually be a clause which provides for continuation of tenancy despite sale/transfer of the property to another party. Something like this: SALE OF THE DEMISED PREMISES BY THE LANDLORD The parties hereby covenant and agree that in the event that the landlord sells and/or assigns the demised premises, the landlord shall subject such sale and/or assignment strictly to the tenancy herein and to the terms and conditions of this agreement and the tenancy herein shall not be terminated by reason of such sale and/or assignment. So when you buy it, you buy it with the tenancy. The above is just an example. For your real life case - do read your SPA as I've advised above. Cheers.
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jessica128
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Sep 14 2011, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Sep 14 2011, 03:02 PM) Please bring this to the attention of your SPA lawyer. He can advise you further in this. I've advised you as best as I can. Thank you. My lawyer say nothing to be done as the deal completed.i suspect my lawyer not doing his job.What u think Dario?
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 14 2011, 03:47 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(jessica128 @ Sep 14 2011, 03:14 PM) My lawyer say nothing to be done as the deal completed.i suspect my lawyer not doing his job.What u think Dario? As I advised you earlier, do appoint another lawyer (who specialises in litigation matters) to study the documents and advise you if it is viable to sue the vendor for damages (compensation). I doubt if you can rescind the transaction based on the factual situation. That is my opinion. Best if you get professional independant advice.
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jsun87
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Sep 15 2011, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Sep 14 2011, 03:47 PM) As I advised you earlier, do appoint another lawyer (who specialises in litigation matters) to study the documents and advise you if it is viable to sue the vendor for damages (compensation). I doubt if you can rescind the transaction based on the factual situation. That is my opinion. Best if you get professional independant advice.  +1  find another nice lawyer to help u.
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daph84
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Sep 17 2011, 10:44 AM
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Dear Dario,
If we are going to submit the CKHT 3, do we need to fill up the CKHT 1A in full, like submitting all the expenses bills?
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 17 2011, 01:39 PM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(daph84 @ Sep 17 2011, 10:44 AM) Dear Dario, If we are going to submit the CKHT 3, do we need to fill up the CKHT 1A in full, like submitting all the expenses bills? No need. With regard to CKHT 3: 1) If you've owned it for more than 5 years - no further docs required apart from copy of previous SPA. 2) If you've owned it for less than 5 years are you're using your one time exemption - you need to submit utility bills or copy of CF to show that the property is used for residential. That's about it.
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daph84
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Sep 19 2011, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(dariofoo @ Sep 17 2011, 01:39 PM) No need. With regard to CKHT 3: 1) If you've owned it for more than 5 years - no further docs required apart from copy of previous SPA. 2) If you've owned it for less than 5 years are you're using your one time exemption - you need to submit utility bills or copy of CF to show that the property is used for residential. That's about it. Thanks alot. So, how about gift from parents to child? do we need to attach with a copy of the birth cert?
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dreamer101
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Sep 19 2011, 08:03 AM
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10k Club
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Dear Dario,
Could you please tell me where I can find a standard offer letter??
Thanks..
Dreamer
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 19 2011, 10:55 AM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(daph84 @ Sep 19 2011, 07:40 AM) Thanks alot. So, how about gift from parents to child? do we need to attach with a copy of the birth cert? No need. That would only be required when submitting it for adjudication to LHDN - where a notice will be issued exemption you from paying any stamp duty. For submission of CKHT that is not required.
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TSdariofoo
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Sep 19 2011, 11:00 AM
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In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 19 2011, 08:03 AM) Dear Dario, Could you please tell me where I can find a standard offer letter?? Thanks.. Dreamer You can use a sample from a real estate agent. The ones agents use are quite standard, differing only in minor details. Alternatively, you can draft one out yourself with your own terms and conditions. Better still.
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Jeffery WL
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Sep 19 2011, 03:27 PM
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Hello, Booked a ready completed with cf condo from developer.I signed the OL from the bank and the Snp from the developer(but havnt send for stamping yet) even pay the rest of 10%. But now only notice that my car park is located on others block. The sale person never mention to me just said it located on LG. Normal people will assumed it located on our block but for mine end up mine on the other block next to it. Feel like being cheated and wanted to cancel the purchase. Now problems i cant take back my 10% that i paid. Who should pay all the legal fees and its there any penalty. Currently dont have the SnP agreement so dunno wat the penalty. the developer never gave it to me said they need to send for stamping it that the proper way? Is there any place or ways that i can make a complain towards their unprofessional way of selling the unit. thanks
This post has been edited by Jeffery WL: Sep 19 2011, 11:20 PM
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omega17
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Sep 19 2011, 04:14 PM
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New Member
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Hi there...hope anyone out there can help to review the charges below is appropriate ? Loan amount rm600k The lawyer said can only give me 50% on principal instrument. Thank you
Toward Our Professional Charges Principal Instrument – Facility Agreement rm4650
Subsidiary Instruments – Deed of Assignment rm465
– Power of Attorney rm465
Service Tax (6%) rm334
Disbursements Developer’s confirmation fee rm50
Stamp duty - Facility Agreement rm3000
- 2 duplicate copies of Facility Agreement rm20
- Deed of Assignment rm40
- Power of Attorney rm40
- Letter of Offer rm10
- Statutory Declarations rm20
Filing fee of Power of Attorney rm60
Affirmation fee on statutory declarations rm20
Search fees - Land search rm60
- Bankruptcy search (on Purchaser & Borrower) rm100
- Winding up search (on developer & proprietor) rm50
- Company search (on developer & proprietor) rm50
Pre-printed documents fee (payable to Bank) rm220
Printing and photocopying charges rm160
Telecommunication, faxes, courier and postage charges rm130
Transport charges rm250
Miscellaneous charges rm50
TOTAL rm10,244.80
This post has been edited by omega17: Sep 19 2011, 06:37 PM
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