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Patch 1.1.2, That was fast!
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chiam_ace
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 Oct 18 2010, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE Terran has now lost its teeth for early aggression. The supply depot is now a requirement before building a barracks. This is what’s really causing the rage among players of all races. Terran now has no aggressive openings to keep a player honest. In Terran vs Zerg, Zerg can free expand without worries of a proxy Barracks Reaper. Terran in SC1 has been lacking a non all in aggressive option in early game. Hence, Zergs and sometimes Protoss can fast expand and still defend relatively fine. Now, Terran has to stick to standard openings and non early aggression builds. Terran will be as of their predecessor, dependent on timing attacks. An excerpt from Duskbin.Marksman's article on his views of the patch.I personally play quite a bit of 2v2s with my friend, and the reapers were a big factor/strategy in terms of early game aggression. After the patch it's pretty much just mass marines or die to early aggression, without the capability of using reapers to harass while expanding early ourselves. Though actually I think it's a welcoming patch to buff Zerg so we Terrans don't get yelled imba/OP all the time. |
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chiam_ace
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Oct 18 2010, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 18 2010, 01:07 PM) watch select's MLG DC vs toss (nony kiwi and huk)... aggressive or not depends on how u play... u dun need to proxy to be aggressive or during the 3-4 minute mark... Didn't say I proxy right. I rarely proxy or I would've compained a lot about the supply depot before barracks. 11rax 12gas into reapers used to be good harassment without being too cheesy. Early aggression can still be done very well with marines, but essentially removing reaper speed early on takes away a big part of Terran's early aggression play. Imagine speedlings requiring Lair. |
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chiam_ace
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Oct 18 2010, 01:36 PM
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uhhh dude I think we have a misunderstanding here lol. The early reaper that was taken away which I've mentioned is due to the speed upgrading being a factory requirement, not the supply depot before barracks change.
Speedless reapers is shit.
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chiam_ace
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Oct 18 2010, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 18 2010, 01:47 PM) as i said tell that to QXC which opened with reapers (1-2 vs idra if u haven watch)... early reapers without speed still deal damage to zerg's FE forcing commitment of larvae into lings... people are still using reapers as we can see in MLG DC which is just yesterday... people are not getting to abuse it unlike the past (speed reapers > roaches) etc... You can refer to my earlier post which I mentioned reapers in the 2v2 matchup. Of course speedless reapers will still work to an extent in 1v1. |
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chiam_ace
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Oct 18 2010, 02:32 PM
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That does work sometimes but good players often don't succumb to pressure like these especially when non-speed reapers can be easily dealt with by marines/marauders/stalkers and easily gets raped by unmicroed speedlings.
We're playing at around 1000 diamond 2v2 now and non-speed reapers just don't cut it anymore.
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