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post Oct 13 2010, 09:16 AM

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Bengalis are people from Bengal. Bangkali sounded similar to Bengali because the "beng" sound is not common in chinese. It is the same as asking if "roti" is the same for all chinese dialect. While roti may be used by all chinese dialects in Malaysia to refer to bread, the chinese word for roti is "mian bao". I am not sure how indians will refer to Bengalis. I believe it would be similar. After all it is the name of a state in India where these people came from. How many way you think people will refer to Johoreans or Kelantanese. I am sure the sound sylabble "Jo" and "hor" will be intact no matter what language.
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post Oct 13 2010, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ Oct 13 2010, 03:15 PM)
Sorry I wasn't clearer. I thought everybody knew ...

Bengalis would be people living Bengal. "a historical and geographical region in the northeast region of the Indian Subcontinent" as wikipedia puts it. Now Bangladesh + West Bengal.

Punjab (where Sikhs live), is on the other side of India, about 2000km away.
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Now I am confuse. What is you topic actually?
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post Oct 13 2010, 04:16 PM

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Before I write my apologies to the Sikhs. I do not mean any insults.

I think it is the turban. Sikhs wear turbans. As I understand it, it a religious thing to wear a turban. Bengalis also wear turbans. I guess they had a strong turkish and arabic influence being closer to those nations.
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post Oct 13 2010, 04:31 PM

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Naruto,
Perhaps they did during the colonial days.
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post Oct 15 2010, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(Toriton @ Oct 14 2010, 05:02 PM)
why then we call Portuguese as Benggali Putih.... they are not from BengalĀ  hmm.gif
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Mereka di gelar Benggali Putih sebab bermisai dan berjanggut.

Paraphrasing from my history book.

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post Oct 21 2010, 04:14 PM

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Now I wonder why Indians are called Keling. Anyone has a decent speculation.
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post Oct 22 2010, 11:08 AM

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Thanks Naruto,

So, it is actually Inida's old name during the Kalinga empire.

I am intrigued by the other explaination in the link you gave
"keling I - IB paku besi yg berkepala dua (utk melekatkan dua keping besi); mengeling melekatkan (menyatukan) besi dgn menggunakan keling."
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post Oct 25 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kal-el @ Oct 22 2010, 01:27 PM)
usually used to curse or degrade people. it evolved into a swear word.
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I agree. This is how people use the word from their tone of voice and context. I also wonder if this evolution into a swear word only applies in Malaysia. Since Bengal still exist today do Indians in India consider it a term meaning a guy form Bengal province. Like Kelantanese being a guy form Kelantan.
QUOTE(najminaruto @ Oct 22 2010, 06:40 PM)
Keling was never meant to degrade Indians or Indians descents...
In the old days, it was never derogatory, in fact it's the correct word for someone who is Indian. Maybe it just the change from using the word India from Keling made this happens?
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Have you any idea when Keling became know as India? I hope it is some new empire and not colonization. For that matter I am not sure where the word China came form. In chinese china is translated as middle kindom. The sound China does not even match any chinese dialect for middle kingdom.
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post Nov 30 2010, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 30 2010, 11:38 AM)
Maybe that's what they called themselves.


Added on November 30, 2010, 11:39 am

So can you tell Cantonese from Hokkien? smile.gif
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Good question. Some people from northern China cant even tell.
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post Dec 1 2010, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(sarvinG @ Nov 30 2010, 06:10 PM)
Nop, i bet i can't. Unless if they speak. I might be able to recognise the tone of Contonese. Not sure bout Hokkien. But aren't that still classifies as Chinese?
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I think you did not get Wodnenus's point. During that time people do dont travel so much since transportation technology is not that advance like today. As such people are ignorant about strange races for distance land. China has so many dialects that it is not so easy for people to tell their location base on their dialect. Even today (with our information age), some still have may not be able to tell easily.

QUOTE(ahsingh99 @ Nov 30 2010, 08:39 PM)
another way 2 differentiate is punjabi/sikhs has a singh in their middle name..btw no religions/races love 2 be called names..
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Now you are confusing me. I thought singh is a surname for those whose religion is sikhs. I am surprise that it is a surname for all punjubis.

 

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