An exerpt from the movie "Conan" by Arnold.... A ruthless asked conan, what is the most powerful weapon in the world? Conan was unable to answer. He then reveal the answer.... It is the ability to ask someone to die for you... no questions asked. Surely, this signify the power of mind control/brainwash.

Every now and then, realise it or not, we are under control of it.

1) politica; propaganda
2) advertisement
3) religion
4) ideology
what else?

what amaze me is that the successdul inmplementation of this in marketing and branding. On how people would deem a bag that carry LV symbol to be superior than the other.

thats why i dont beleive in "brands"...
if u cant tell the difference.,, why pay the differnece.

advertisement > brainwash > sells product..
and makes u think its worth it...
or just to show off to others....

i dont respect the CAR... if the driver acts like an @$$hole.

it is such an unfortunate world that, the society we build upon is very much on selfish, ego and competition that drives most of the people wanted to power over another.

the power isn't all that great when you realise it....
i would like to call this version of "mind control" as conditioning though.

anyway....business is business.....i would do the same for the "edge" it gives.

I guess it matter as we as a beast that has awakened the consciousness in us. Unlike other animals that is inconscious about themselves.

This consciousness has provoked the perception and judgemental instinct

before you say that, u must admit you gonna teach your own kid how to oppress others in order to success? what will happen if other people gonna do the same? u r not making the world civilized & a better place to live bro

This post has been edited by zeitgeist: Oct 8 2010, 10:01 PM

mind elaborate?

i`m value minded person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning
there are many similarities between advertisement and the conditioning experiments......

i am talking from the side of seller when i mentioned that statement.
i too compare quality vs price of products as a consumer

Will read it later on. I like to look at advertisements... it makes me wonder, by looking at LV`s ad... on how such simple picture could change the mind of people

It's the power of perception.

We value ourselves as individual, we don't want to be seen as just the worker ant in an ant colony. We look for something to set us apart, to put us on a higher level. To show to people 'Hey, I'm better than you' or 'I'm more special than you'.

Brands play on this. I perceive having an LV bag elevates my status and sets me apart from the commoners, so I buy one. Hey look, an iPhone...now I'm cool and teech savvy. It's all about perception and marketing is the art of manipulating this perception.

the simplest example is through advertisement and if u have some understanding about magic then u should know how to control ppl's mind.i also found out from a book that actually there are ppl who really know how to control your mind by merely staring or looking into your eyes.the concept of mind control is really interesting,u guys can try to look for books which talk about mind control to discover more about this secret art.

oppress? how is that oppressing?
the consumer has the freedom of choice.....

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Added on October 9, 2010, 12:09 ammagic.....advertisement.......mind control.......secret art.......books......
my curiosity is piqued.....mind spilling some beans?

This post has been edited by slimey: Oct 9 2010, 12:09 AM

The greatness of the brainwash technique is greatly depends on the will power of the "victim".
Therefore, we should also focus on the people who accept it

That is not mind control. Let me give you this scenario. I'm standing at a large open area. There are some kids playing with remote control cars nearby. Every once in a while, one of these little cars will come near me. As they get in range, I kicked them away. Off they go skidding in a direction they (the person holding the remote control) did not intend.

In your examples, you can nudge people a little in certain directions, but only in a very limited topic, not to an unlimited degree, and they can resist you to a degree. Propaganda might get some people to hate immigrants, but it does not tell you whether to brush your teeth before or after you've had your breakfast.

Indirectly, it is the concept of moulding one`s mental perception

people nowadays are not that stupid and not that brilliant either

not that stupid in term of wont follow with a single order. e.g. do this, kill him....

not that brilliant interms of unable to judge. e.g. you can see this in political racial slurs and how then manage to convince people to commit verbal assult and street protest that jeopardise ethnic hoarmony.

This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Oct 9 2010, 10:52 AM

hey bro, this product 100% guaranteed satisfaction, this is the best of the best, unbreakable, lifetime warranty, u wont regret after buying it, you'll be millionaire after buying this!, get rich and spend like theres no tommorow! come buy and you'll get a chance to win 100 million!, buy this you'll be the champion!, you are the smartest buyer!

sounds familiar?

This post has been edited by zeitgeist: Oct 9 2010, 10:23 AM

of course...........but it is not oppressing. mind you, also there's reciprocation from advertising false information.

u still dont get it, if everybody else agreed with u that "business is business, due you'll get "the edge" in return"

what do you think will happen when everybody else also need to 'cheat' at each other? for eg: both of us is selling apple, of course u and i need to cheat at customer saying urs is better than mine, this is oppressing situation

Funny you should mention this. I have a friend in advertising. He was just telling us recently, don't believe what you read/hear. It's all just bull. It's his job to write these to sell stuff. We're already there. Has been there for a very long time.

angel,

i'd say that mind control isn't the right term. u made me think of hypnosis lol.

i'd say.. the power to shape perception should be the 4 things u stated above. yesss those shaped people's perception, good thinking xD