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lunateck
post Oct 8 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 8 2010, 10:19 AM)
I dispute the statement that the Vios is tops in the FC department. We did tests on all 3 cars and the results say otherwise.
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I would say it's less or more about the same. It all depends on your foot and what kind of petrol you pump. So I guess TS need not worry about FC since they are about the same. If want lowest FC, go for a bicycle, jokes aside. Just follow your instinct and choose the one you like.
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:47 AM

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TS,
Firstly test drive all 3 of the cars. All are equally gd by todays standard with each focussing on different areas to capture d market.

City
+ most modern design (inside n out) but is subjective
+ 5-spd auto gear box more suited for long highway cruise
+ best driving involvement of d 3 (stock form) although still so-so even compared even to Proton
+ biggest boot here
- so-so fc in urban driving
- rather numb steering
- so-so pickup (no playing wit paddle shifts)
- suspension a bit firm

Vios
+ most balance in terms comfort and sport of d 3
+ used prices
+ most eager feeling engine response
+ fc in city driving but closely matched by Latio (due to gearing although its just 4 but properly aligned to suit urban driving)
- sound insulation (engine still buzzy at highway speeds)
- dugong looks (subjective)

Latio Sport
+ most comfortable
+ biggest interior space (rear seats can slide fwd and bwd)
- subjective exterior looks
- rather plain interior design also d dark grey theme inside is way better than d beige in d saloon variant
- amusing choice to use "Sport" in d name when its just looks

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post Oct 8 2010, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 8 2010, 10:19 AM)
I dispute the statement that the Vios is tops in the FC department. We did tests on all 3 cars and the results say otherwise.
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oh mind to share ur result? but reading from forum that majority claim that Vios has the incredible FC if compare to same segment car..
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post Oct 8 2010, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Oct 8 2010, 11:57 AM)
oh mind to share ur result? but reading from forum that majority claim that Vios has the incredible FC if compare to same segment car..
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FC vios wins the new city... cannot beat the old one... my wife's VTEC 08 can go 550km, 70% city, 30% highway...
i heard idsi at least 600km...
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post Oct 8 2010, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(hush_puppies @ Oct 8 2010, 11:57 AM)
oh mind to share ur result? but reading from forum that majority claim that Vios has the incredible FC if compare to same segment car..
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Our result shows that neither car consistently put up a clear margin when it comes to FC. We found that the drivers were the main factors in FC variation. There may be a difference in the FC of all 3 cars, but not enough of a margin for it to be used as a selling point. I'd say in terms of FC, you would be fine with any of these models. Of course with the City if you keep using the VTEC to kick you car to speed and expect to have good FC, it's a bit unrealistic isn't it?

On the forums, I take all claims with a pinch of salt. I've tried and do not find an incredible FC by the Vios compared to the other two, and have the conclusion that this misconception is put out by Vios drivers.

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post Oct 8 2010, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 8 2010, 02:15 PM)
Our result shows that neither car consistently put up a clear margin when it comes to FC. We found that the drivers were the main factors in FC variation. There may be a difference in the FC of all 3 cars, but not enough of a margin for it to be used as a selling point. I'd say in terms of FC, you would be fine with any of these models. Of course with the City if you keep using the VTEC to kick you car to speed and expect to have good FC, it's a bit unrealistic isn't it?

On the forums, I take all claims with a pinch of salt. I've tried and do not find an incredible FC by the Vios compared to the other two, and have the conclusion that this misconception is put out by Vios drivers.
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definitely true. only vios owner tend to compare and make such claim.
dunno why..

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post Oct 8 2010, 03:44 PM

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lolz.... i may use this thread to help decide.

let me add a question. For Latio Hatchback, how much does it cost to add the optional body kit (assuming the car doesn't come with the spoiler and kit)
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post Oct 8 2010, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(moyong @ Oct 8 2010, 03:44 PM)
lolz.... i may use this thread to help decide.

let me add a question. For Latio Hatchback, how much does it cost to add the optional body kit (assuming the car doesn't come with the spoiler and kit)
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It's free, you can get the SA to throw it in for you.

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post Oct 8 2010, 04:14 PM

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ah thanks. well to help compile info. Here are the pricing info (extracted from their relevant websites)


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post Oct 8 2010, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(moyong @ Oct 8 2010, 04:14 PM)
ah thanks. well to help compile info. Here are the pricing info (extracted from their relevant websites)

 
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the honda is before insurance is it? so cheap one?
the vios like non-metalic paint price?
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:12 PM

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Vios has brilliant FC.I can simply thrash the car kau kau and still get 500km for a full tank of petrol

While on the other hand,the NHC you can get good FC but you have to drive alot on highway or very jaga ur foot.MEans more troublesome to get good FC lah.No matter how hard i tried,I can never get 450km on a full tank.

Latio FC cannot fight Vios but beats City FC.

Vios pickup is brilliant.So easy and relax pickup.Very good car to drive in town and on highway.

City pickup is shit.And I mean it,the pickup for the CITY is nonexistent.Its rough and jerky early on.Once you get to about 60km/h then your ok.Above 100km/h then you can feel the surge of power.But the power only last a while.

Latio pickup is better than city ,but somehow the engine feels too "SOFT" for my liking.I think due to CVT transmission.



Ohyea,I am a CITY owner,but I feel the VIOS even though is dugonglike,still is the car which is more balanced overall.

City only excels in HIGH SPEED,and my high speed is defined as more than 100km/h

Below that,its pretty boring and mundane.Stepping on the accelerator from say 80km/h gives a big growl like you woke a fat lazy kid sleeping and ask him to work.Thats how driving the CITY feels.

If i had a chance to buy again,i will definately take the VIOS anytime.

Ohyea,mind you HONDA servicing and parts costs a bomb

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post Oct 8 2010, 05:16 PM

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Latio in Malaysia don't have CVT. Well, the Singapore's Latio do have.
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 8 2010, 05:12 PM)
Vios has brilliant FC.I can simply thrash the car kau kau and still get 500km for a full tank of petrol

While on the other hand,the NHC you can get good FC but you have to drive alot on highway or very jaga ur foot.MEans more troublesome to get good FC lah.No matter how hard i tried,I can never get 450km on a full tank.

Latio FC cannot fight Vios but beats City FC.

Vios pickup is brilliant.So easy and relax pickup.Very good car to drive in town and on highway.

City pickup is shit.And I mean it,the pickup for the CITY is nonexistent.Its rough and jerky early on.Once you get to about 60km/h then your ok.Above 100km/h then you can feel the surge of power.But the power only last a while.

Latio pickup is better than city ,but somehow the engine feels too "SOFT" for my liking.I think due to CVT transmission.

Honestly,if i were to choose between these 3 ,I wont buy any of these.
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Coz the smart vtec always open la, that's y u won't get good fc. Like statikinetic, it's all up to the driver. One thing to add is, do you know City's ECU remembers how you like to drive your car OVER THE TIME? If you like to tekan kau2 to open vtec, it remembers that so that next time you no need tekan kau2 for vtec to open. And somehow, your city's FC does say something about your driving... hehehehe..

Well again, it might be H's fault by tuning the ECU to remember driver's habit.

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post Oct 8 2010, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(lunateck @ Oct 8 2010, 05:21 PM)
Coz the smart vtec always open la, that's y u won't get good fc. Like statikinetic, it's all up to the driver. One thing to add is, do you know City's ECU remembers how you like to drive your car OVER THE TIME? If you like to tekan kau2 to open vtec, it remembers that so that next time you no need tekan kau2 for vtec to open. And somehow, your city's FC does say something about your driving... hehehehe..

Well again, it might be H's fault by tuning the ECU to remember driver's habit.
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Thats absolutely bullocks.I have resetted the ECU countless times.After that I drive 70km/h everywhere I go.Even by doing that,I cannot get 400+km per tank.Come on lah,I have been with the car almost 2 years already.I know how the car reacts,how it drives.

Its not that the VTEC open all the time lah,its bcuz of the engine .Thats how the engine is designed to work.No matter how slow you drive,no matter how u jaga ur foot,its damn hard to get 400+ per tank in the NHC.Tried it a million times.

SO now ,i dont bother already.Anyway,petrol can claim so who cares.
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 8 2010, 05:36 PM)
Thats absolutely bullocks.I have resetted the ECU countless times.After that I drive 70km/h everywhere I go.Even by doing that,I cannot get 400+km per tank.Come on lah,I have been with the car almost 2 years already.I know how the car reacts,how it drives.

Its not that the VTEC open all the time lah,its bcuz of the engine .Thats how the engine is designed to work.No matter how slow you drive,no matter how u jaga ur foot,its damn hard to get 400+ per tank in the NHC.Tried it a million times.

SO now ,i dont bother already.Anyway,petrol can claim so who cares.
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Well, your car acts absolutely weird then. 400+ is damn easy to get on these types of cars, regardless of brand. May i know what's your % mix of city, highway, jam?
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post Oct 8 2010, 05:53 PM

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weird too..i am driving NHC and 80% urban drive. from the 1st day getting car till now nearly 1 and half years, avg FC is 13km/l++ max ever reached 17km/l on highway drive.

as what lunatech said, getting 400+ is damn easy. what i dont like about NHC is the NVH. how i wish it could on par with nissan latio. the tyre and road noise is really irritating.

abt acceleration, indeed NHC is so much poor on this due to it's weird gear ratio setting and the weight of the car.

bro kevin, have u checked properly what's ur car problem with SC?
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:04 PM

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just went to have a look at 2 cars and here are some comments on the interior

City : Futuristic Panel which is nice however the seating at the back is kinda tight (just my opinion)

Latio: Really spacious interior drool.gif very comfortable and the black colour seats accent the car well especially if it is white ^^

Didn't manage to get in vios as the sales office was closed sad.gif

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post Oct 8 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Oct 8 2010, 05:36 PM)
Thats absolutely bullocks.I have resetted the ECU countless times.After that I drive 70km/h everywhere I go.Even by doing that,I cannot get 400+km per tank.Come on lah,I have been with the car almost 2 years already.I know how the car reacts,how it drives.

Its not that the VTEC open all the time lah,its bcuz of the engine .Thats how the engine is designed to work.No matter how slow you drive,no matter how u jaga ur foot,its damn hard to get 400+ per tank in the NHC.Tried it a million times.

SO now ,i dont bother already.Anyway,petrol can claim so who cares.
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400+ per tank should be easily achievable for all cars under this segment. Even I can get 400+ with my Latio with my heavy on the pedal driving style. Get it checked out.

Dear moyong,

The space sealed the deal for me. If you go for white, here's a tip. The darker the window tinting, the better it looks. brows.gif
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post Oct 8 2010, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 8 2010, 11:16 PM)
400+ per tank should be easily achievable for all cars under this segment. Even I can get 400+ with my Latio with my heavy on the pedal driving style. Get it checked out.

Dear moyong,

The space sealed the deal for me. If you go for white, here's a tip. The darker the window tinting, the better it looks.  brows.gif
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Vios space is bigger than City, initial feeling. Din really do any detail comparison.

Today i saw a matt black colored audi a4 (b8) with chrome window seal (hard to describe) and matt dark grey rim (maybe din wash.. lol). Damn nice.

Oh yea, every car looks good with the darkest window tinting.. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 9 2010, 01:00 AM

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Why not put latio sedan into your choice of cars? Sedan is cheaper too.

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