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perfectionistie
post Mar 7 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(Heibaiwuchang @ Mar 6 2015, 05:28 PM)
This is one of the praying altar for the Nine Tails Fox Fairies in Hong Kong.. Offering items mostly is cosmetic, fresh flowers, fresh fruit and also Nine Tails Fox Fairies is Vegetarian..
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hi heibaiwuchang,

i read this thread with interest. i have a few ques, hope can get some insights from you. i am actually freethinker. not much exposure to this area. my question is really sincere, and not intend for anything bad:

1. during Cheng Meng, people burn gifts, gold papers, houses etc. my ques is, is the dead really receiving it, or it is more of a cultural thing? if its real, then those from other race who don't practice this, their dead relative must be in poverty. i am not againts this and will still burn gifts, out of routine for chengbeng, but there is nothing more (in terms of appreciating the meaning behind, or believing the dead actually receives it).

2. my father just passed away recently. is there anyway to know if he did went to a better place? i havnt have any dream about him since he passed on. no message that he left since he went away. he's been very unlucky this life, suffered when he's a child and sick for most his adult life. just not willing to see him continue suffer.

he has no message probably because he has said everything he needed to say, see the people he needed to see, as he did not go off suddenly. simply put, doctor has said he cannot make it. but he did make it, and 'earned' extra 3 months before he really passed on, rather peacefully and painlessly.

3. Any rule to observe for first cheng beng? heard it should be earlier than ChengBeng date. we are going to early ChengBeng on next monday, coincide with his 7th week ritual, and erection of tombstone. we do the 3 things together. not sure if it is alright.

4. this is totally unrelated. from reading this thread, only i realized that the reason people call 'third party' fox deity. but you did mentioned that the ninetail fox is a good deity. the wikipedia say it differently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huli_jing

thanks

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post Mar 7 2015, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 7 2015, 01:21 PM)
lot of celebrity praying fox fairies, after some time they pray their eyes will be bigger and longer face shape look nicer without need of plastic surgeries

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ya...thats true...
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post Mar 7 2015, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Mar 7 2015, 01:26 PM)
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met buddha before?
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Haha... everyone wish too...
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post Mar 7 2015, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Mar 7 2015, 01:43 PM)
not sure if you are being serious or trolling?
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Ever heard of the Battle of Kampar with heavy Japanese casualties?
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post Mar 7 2015, 03:39 PM

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Haha... everyone wish too...
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 7 2015, 03:05 PM)
Ever heard of the Battle of Kampar with heavy Japanese casualties?
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lol sorry.. actually wanted to reply to the joker who commented above you.
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post Mar 7 2015, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(perfectionistie @ Mar 7 2015, 02:42 PM)
hi heibaiwuchang,

i read this thread with interest.  i have a few ques, hope can get some insights from you. i am actually freethinker. not much exposure to this area. my question is really sincere, and not intend for anything bad:

1. during Cheng Meng, people burn gifts, gold papers, houses etc. my ques is, is the dead really receiving it, or it is more of a cultural thing? if its real, then those from other race who don't practice this, their dead relative must be in poverty. i am not againts this and will still burn gifts, out of routine for chengbeng, but there is nothing more (in terms of appreciating the meaning behind, or believing the dead actually receives it).

2. my father just passed away recently. is there anyway to know if he did went to a better place? i havnt have any dream about him since he passed on. no message that he left since he went away. he's been very unlucky this life, suffered when he's a child and sick for most his adult life. just not willing to see him continue suffer.

he has no message probably because he has said everything he needed to say, see the people he needed to see, as he did not go off suddenly. simply put, doctor has said he cannot make it. but he did make it, and 'earned' extra 3 months before he really passed on, rather peacefully and painlessly.

3. Any rule to observe for first cheng beng? heard it should be earlier than ChengBeng date. we are going to early ChengBeng on next monday, coincide with his 7th week ritual, and erection of tombstone. we do the 3 things together. not sure if it is alright.

4. this is totally unrelated. from reading this thread, only i realized that the reason people call 'third party' fox deity. but you did mentioned that the ninetail fox is a good deity. the wikipedia say it differently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huli_jing

thanks
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1.When everytime before we start burning those paper house, car or each other to the ancestor, we first need to paste along together with a paper like a scripture functions as a stamp to be written down the ancestor name, date of the death and also from whom as address to be delivered to them... The important point to be noted that its not the current Western calendar date but is Chinese Lunar calendar.. Those ghost officer doesnt understand what is January, February or March.. It's have their own year, month and date like the green words which as in the picture attached. It also could be easily found in Western Calendar.. The date its only written on the day you want to burn.. Example today is 初一 and you want to burn the paper on 初三 hence the scripture there need to write 初三 as the exactly date.. If not write the exactly date and burn it, its considered lost and cant received by the ancestor... Remember not to put your name on it cause once you put your full name, those wondering spirit may seek something from you to burn to them.. Let said if u wish to burn to Father who was deceased and you were ranking the youngest son in the family then u need to write "From : 小仔" then Ancestor will know it..

2. A human who just passed away its considered new ghost just like a new born babies.. So many things their need to learn from the beginning lead by the Ancestor in the Ghost World thats why those soul in hell were chained.. Their need some times to learn how to float, how to balancing themself because their dont have body part like human being.. Bought a dreams or bringing message to their descendants also need a lot of time to practice or summon and also need to depends the frequency to communicate with descendants is matched only successful communicate with them thru dreaming..

3.Its a culture since old generations n tradition for the early ching ming for those deceased recently but now modern day, people choose early before the actual day is just because to skip those traffic jam, the crowded during the ching ming season...

4. Human also got into different between Evil Mind Or Wise.. Its same with a fox.. It were told that Nine Tails Fox also were transform from Fox spirit but its because for a very long year had pass with all the good deed she had done for human, hence it granted with the Nine Tails Fox Fairies.. The place where Fox Fairies were granted took in Dragon Tiger Mount " 龙虎山" in China where the place of Master Tai Shang Lao Jun meditate also.. When fox spirit before grant as fairies, she met tai shang lao jun on the half way of meditation and she ask for mercy and hope master tai shang lao jun would give her a chance to meditate and help human kind in the future and finally Master Tai agree and let her meditate and hope she will be granted as a fox fairies someday.. The legends continues in meditation and within 500 years, her intelligence increase by growing her tail and within 500 years again, her tails grow again until totally form up 9 of tails.. Thats how the legendary Nine Fox Fairies were exist...





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post Mar 7 2015, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(nearlee @ Mar 7 2015, 03:39 PM)
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post Mar 7 2015, 06:55 PM

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Will create a chit chat session next month in Kampar.. Anyone interested to join??
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:11 PM

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Hi, do you know is the oil called nam man prai really contain a spirit or not? Is it really exist? Is it evil?
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 7 2015, 07:14 PM)
intresting is it the oil made by dead human fat ?
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Human chin oil if im right. Or called minyak dagu.
is it legal?
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 7 2015, 07:16 PM)
singapore got ghost or not  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 7 2015, 07:11 PM)
sifu Heibai i heard some sifu say ghost can identify "their" power by observing "their" colour : clear, white, blue , green , purple , red from weak to strong power, this is because i have ask why all country all race and religion also say ghost in white colour, they say white colour power and above ghost can appear infront of normal human, clear or shadow is weak depend on the human condition to see them.
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Yea.. u are right.. those which can tranform into human alike mostly strong power enough... normally only just a shadow passing by...
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post Mar 7 2015, 08:05 PM

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Minyak dagu is obtain from the dead corpse known as chin oil by continuously burning with a candle until its drop the oil and use to chant for a period of time by the dark magic master to create various type of black magic .. Nowadays, less shaman will using this type of dark magic cause the quantity of the oil is not much beside will have bad karma to the shaman who did tis..

Nowadays, most of the oil came from dried flower, you could smell the fragrance of the assorted flower when saw those amulet which contain oil inside..
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post Mar 8 2015, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 8 2015, 10:47 AM)
photo attached in case dun understand, if dunno how to fill in prepare all info and ask the seller help to fill in snap a photo save it so next year u can follow and write your own.
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Ya.. this is what I seeeking for online.. but mostly came out all josspaper but not this seal.. haha.. thanks bereev..
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QUOTE(Heibaiwuchang @ Mar 7 2015, 08:05 PM)
Minyak dagu is obtain from the dead corpse known as chin oil by continuously burning with a candle until its drop the oil and use to chant for a period of time by the dark magic master to create various type of black magic .. Nowadays, less shaman will using this type of dark magic cause the quantity of the oil is not much beside will have bad karma to the shaman who did tis..

Nowadays, most of the oil came from dried flower, you could smell the fragrance of the assorted flower when saw those amulet which contain oil inside..
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minyak dagu is for what purpose eh? hmm.gif

how about minyak senyonyong, minyak pengasih?

minyak buluh perindu ia for same purpose with minyak pengasih?
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post Mar 8 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(GoldenHorn @ Mar 8 2015, 10:56 AM)
minyak dagu is for what purpose eh? hmm.gif

how about minyak senyonyong, minyak pengasih?

minyak buluh perindu ia for same purpose with minyak pengasih?
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Minyak dagu or corpse oil its use to attract/increasing one relationship.. but as you mention bout minyak senyonyong.. I have no idea about it.. need to follow the Malay instructions then...
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post Mar 8 2015, 11:06 AM

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No to disrespect anybody but do you guise still believe in ghost and superstition in this day and age? Why? Did any of you personally experienced something otherworldly or something?
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Nekkidgramma, there will be people who believe and there who don't. People never see god but they too believe. I'm not sure if this is a good example. People do things for peace of mind. Why people celebrate birthday, anniversary, Chinese new year, Xmas etc? Its just another day? Will wishing a person happy birthday increase his chance to be happy? Wishing gong xi fat Chai ( literally translate to congratulation for being prosperous) increase the chance of the person getting rich? Why not talk about death or other taboo thing during any?

I'm not a religious person and I don't against people who are religious at the same time. I think we shouldn't question people what to believe too if it don't harm other people. Why people believe in god? Even if some claim to have seen god, i dare to say Big majority of them don't. Faith is a different story. Having faith god exist doesnt prove a god exist. But one thing you and I cannot deny. The believe of god, and hope, has offer comfort to thousands of years and thousands of generation. A lot of people who got pushed to the edge and helplessly desperate will too seek god or higher level being as a last resort. This kind of situation may give these people the extra push that they need to go thru something.

I hope that may give you my take to the question 'why' that u asked.

Thank you heibaiwuchang and bereev. U are so thoughtful. Even attached picture and the patient of explaining. Sorry bereev I can't read chinese but my mom can read how to write. The shop only give me the yellow paper, I haven't write anything on it yet. But the shop did not give me the 'white' form that u attached. Is it compulsory? Must put inside the box?


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QUOTE(Heibaiwuchang @ Mar 8 2015, 11:01 AM)
Minyak dagu or corpse oil its use to attract/increasing one relationship.. but as you mention bout minyak senyonyong.. I have no idea about it.. need to follow the Malay instructions then...
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