I second this.

Candidate list

1)EIRAKU (sadly his N900 is in bad condition)
2)JANANAN (quite good at this maemo thingy, but then only pops out once in a while oni.)
3)Super Evil Alien ( is quite good candidate i support but oni one thingy dun until kena banned just because of /K/ )

BTW i know Aspire jump ship edi we gonna miss u.

@aspire make sure u organize and attend a TT session for N900 users before u really jump ship

means if i using x-terminal from 600mhz OC to 800mhz no problem right? then 800mhz to 900mhz can? no nid set voltage? i duno how?   

eh aspire wher eis your view on n8 leh.. me waiting very long...

I'm sorry
Was contesting at fanboy battle just now..

aspire when is the TT session we wanna test out ur N8

good jod Super evil alien "SIFU"

Well..I already has experience of testing N8.Only thing I cannot test is the day 2 day usage because I don't own it.
But I can compare pro & cons of these 2 phone.

Don't think Andre ever used N900.

I don't think so too; Anyway, I think some of the GODLIKE members there is "not happy" that N900 is praise or people praising how great N900 is.
The truth is, N900 is not great, it's the OS, Maemo; And technically, Maemo is an Internet Table, it's more powerful and a class above those smartphone OS already, it's flexibility, customization level, what it can do; For technical people, they should understand the difference, just like Eiraku and Jananan used to mentioned; Those GODLIKE users doesn't seems to know much or get the point or maybe they're "not happy" and see any N900 users, they just bring out their gun and blast.

Honestly, when I first go in N8 thread (after invited for Ranger Program), I posted something about Qt, just sharing information, tiba tiba kena tembak like nobody business. I was like w-t-f? I just share explain what is Qt and what it can/suppose to do, didn't say that it's the best, I didn't say it will change the world, etc. That thread really give me big surprise, total different situation in N900 forum, at least all the members here are nice, we share our disappointments as well as our joy on the N900, share information, disucssion, etc. I mean, that's the purpose of joining the forum right? To join the community, learn about the device, discuss, etc.
But in N8 thread, hard... must know who and who and talk properly; and those people don't know you, straight away judge you and blast their gun without aiming, and too much spamming.

Just can say, Maemo OS is great, but it doesn't suit everyone; It has it's category of users, just like buying cars, you have people who like Sedan cars, people who prefer hatchbacks, people who prefer MPV, etc.
Maemo is different from other smartphones; I don't find MeeGo able to replace Maemo? First thing I see missing is the Desktop concept, which is one of the main strengths of Maemo OS being an Internet Tablet OS.
Well, let's wait for MeeGo and see how it goes; From those demos, it still feels very Android-ish to me.

Downloading right now but I'll just check the legality of the built.
My phone already messed up as it is.

N900 is actually an Internet Tablet; If you know about Tablet PC, it runs Windows and it's basically a Laptop with touchscreen.
N900 is like a Tablet Computer at the size of a handphone/palm, running on Linux.
Technically speaking, the OS is above those smartphone level; It's very open and powerful. That's why you can see many "desktop" class applications can be ported easily to Maemo, even "desktop" class games.
Maemo have "DESKTOP" instead of homescreen; The "DESKTOP" is very similar to PC Windows Desktop, very flexible and customizable unlike "homescreen".
You also see Google Chrome for Linux port (Chromium), when Android by Google also don't have.
There is "mplayer", which is desktop class powerful player; there is extra codecs, subtitles support, with all this, can play many types of files including RMVB.
There is app manager, unlike those "store", and there is FAPMan.
There is very good social network integration, which is also customizable/extensible by adding plugins for other services; Even Nokia Product Manager himself praises this when we talk about it.
There is FULL version Java, unlike smartphone class, only J2ME; can run Java Applets.
For programmer, they can install NetBeans.
There is just so many to list.

All above, means nothing for user who just want a "normal" smartphone which is provides good phone functionality and easy to use, can play games, etc.
Talk about phone functionality, for smartphone, I'd say Symbian is one of the best available, it supports most if not all phone functions, like 3G Video call, Contacts Grouping, Ringtone assignment to contacts or Groups, SMS to Groups, Storing SMS in folders, etc.
Any other smartphone OS have better phone functionality than Symbian? iOS clearly doesn't.

As I said, it's like a mini laptop; So, imagine people carry 1 smartphone and 1 laptop.
Now, I can carry my N8 as smartphone and N900 to replace my laptop.
N900 have great social network integration, the best multi-tasking and web browsing experience (even Nokia Product manager also agrees on this when we talk about it). Plus the qwerty keyboard, it's excellent.
I have never use my PC/Laptop MSN anymore ever since I got my N900; Many of my friends chatting with me, didn't know I was using N900 to chat with them, through Facebook Chat or MSN. They're surprise when I told them because with qwerty keyboard we can type very very fast and can browse easily, copy links, send links, post pictures/videos to Facebook/YouTube, etc.

Lastly, I don't have any grudge against any smartphone OS; If I have, it will only be iOS due to it's restriction which really makes me frustrated. For me, I believe each OS and device have it's target users, or user which prefers them. Just like people who like Sedan cars, or people who like Hatchbacks, or MPV, etc. Sedan lovers will argue their point, Hatchback lovers will also argue their point;
Just stick to your choice, winning an argument won't make the device more powerful. I'm only disappointed and concern of those people who buy something just because people say it's good; Like N900, it's a great device, but if people don't know what's so great and just buy it because people say it's good and later they don't like it, they will complain and say it s*cks.

Next time they should choose different types of people to become Rangers.
If it's me I would have choose advanced,average & newbie users from both genders to test the product.
If Nokia indeed wants to sells the products to variety of groups this is the only way they can know what each group except.

Current rangers....I would not say everyone great...

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Added on October 20, 2010, 1:01 am
I'm following a thread from maemo talk.Once 1 guys installs the update successfully I'm on for the update.
I remember used to post this kind of long explanation with just his phone 
Real patient guy.

I asked about MeeGo device; No information.
I also asked about Flash 10 for N8; Future updates?
In Adobe website, it was stated clearly Flash 10 will be available for Symbian, MeeGo, even Windows Mobile.
But it never mention which Symbian version, will S^1 get it too?

I personally thinks, not much information can be obtain as many still depends on Nokia HQ? Like MeeGo, Flash 10, etc.
I also thought of asking about the low RAM on N8 and the mono speaker decision on N8; but I think this answer might be hard as it most probably decided from the designer or through their research, etc and maybe they think it's adequate.

What we can do, I think, is to provide feedback as Ranger.
Hardwares for smartphone can't or almost impossible to be upgraded, so it's important to provide at least a decent spec.

David asked me about my impression on the N900, I said, lack of RAM; He suggested there should be ways for consumers to upgrade chips on their device, like RAM; hehehe.
Nice if we can have dedicated graphics that is upgradeable 
I remember last time Alienware come up with the first laptop with upgradeable dedicated graphic card, it was shown on Tech TV - Call for Help (I think) on Astro (if anyone still remembers the show).

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Added on October 20, 2010, 1:10 am

Thanks GrandMaster SHIFU, SIFU for all the SIFU in N900 thread   

Wonder if N8 can turn off the other 2 desktop; If leave one desktop running and remove all widgets, should have improvements. Done that once on my N900, only 1 Desktop and simple widget, it flies and do things more easily, but problem is when I turn back on the other desktop later, it's empty, I have to organize again. 

It's been time I haven't reply your post. Yes, typing on physical qwerty keyboard is easy compare to capacitive touch, but when you have 4" screen, you'll find typing on virtual qwerty keyboard easier as well. I know this, so thats why I don't go for 3.2~3.7" capacitive touch phone. Just sharing my opinion

Sometimes I hope aspire could come to N8 topic and share some tips of photography. Really need pro teaching.

MeeGo's development seems like a independent body now.OS wise Nokia only provides drivers code only.
The rest I think is outside Nokia's control.
Tomorrow there's going to be closed door meeting on the MeeGo.The leader said if it's not a confidential stuff he'll share the content of the meeting tomorrow.
Also he said MeeGo 1.1 release date is set to 01/11/2010
So far I've tried v 1.0.99 it's ok(shutdown issue finally solved)

I've suggested the self upgrade feature sometime ago.It's should be flexibility for the people to upgrade like PC.But it's hard to achieve because manufacturers prefers users to keep their hands off the hardware.

So busy that you want me to take over as next TS?

Btw, when I heard Nokia Malaysian representative says MeeGo is just a skin of Maemo, I just like shocked.

If combine Moblin + Maemo = MeeGo means it's a new OS,  hence not a skins of Maemo.

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Added on October 20, 2010, 1:21 am

Wow, gooodness mee. Awesome pictures  

If you share it at Camera Gallery Pictures, alot will envy  

Rubbish.The core of the OS has undergone some transformation.But the new GUI is something needed.
New GUI was done so average people will be able to use this OS without much issue.Some claim Maemo's GUI is hard to use.

Anyone who are interested in MeeGo functions can post in this IRC channel - #meego at irc.freenode.net
The devs & enthusiast will entertain your question provided it's a legit question.

i am too busy to be the TS... i might go missing for 2-3 days and you guys might make police report !!  

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Added on October 20, 2010, 6:17 am
GPU needs power as well. running 2 chips uses more power than running just one.

look at intel core i series systems - integrated processor / graphics = less power consumption

and compare to, lets say, amd rig + some pci express graphics = more power consumption
imho, why symbian (as well as series 40) devices dont drain battery as badly as n900, i have to use the word 'badly' since it is bad.
- symbian/series 40 somewhat closed ecosystem (even though symbian is now Open Source, not as open as Maemo)

- more integrated processes running in background (highly integrated, rogue processes can be 100% eliminated)

- no extra daemons / services running in background (n900 has tons running - some rogue even, some not 100% nokia tested, some that is borrowed directly from debian/ubuntu code (code that is meant to run on desktops mostly and code that is not aware of system-wide power policies), which in turn kills the battery quickly even during standby

- and look at series 40 devices, even lesser background processes (everything is loaded only when needed and no multitasking) and 100% closed ecosystem (somewhat like the iphone) that translates to even lesser power consumption when idle

- conclusion - the simpler the system is - the better the battery life.

- nokia's answer to that prayer = Meego.

- Meego is being developed from scratch while Maemo was thrown together from code snippets from various Unix/Linux based desktop OSes and vague routines were applied in the OS to (try to) save power while providing an usable environment.

- with Meego, i dare predict that battery life, at least standby battery life will increase drastically. But of course you cant expect that in Meego v1.x since Meego is made to be "code once, run on many devices" (just like Android is, we all know how sucky Android 1.6 was)

It will take some time before they get it right with Meego, but when they do, expect stellar battery life with almost Maemo like experience.

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Added on October 20, 2010, 6:27 am
at least u can pinch zoom now... (the entire multi-touch agenda is based on pinch zoom and gaming).

no pun intended.

i dont think multi-touch has benefited the smartphone revolution that much.