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adolph
post Oct 6 2012, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(gloryglory888 @ Sep 7 2012, 10:55 AM)
Wong Sifu,

i read with great interest & i applaud you for sharing your insight & knowledge with the rest of "ignorant" people like me here. I wonder if you could drop few pointers on my situation.
I’m 34 years old, engineering line. 
Drawing  MYR12.5 gross, net ~9k.
After minus all expenditure/insurance/loan etc -  left around 1k for saving.
Asset (cash/stock/FD) ~ 50k. I’m planning to get married early next year, so bye2 to another 10k or so.
I sold my house in JB ( bad decision) & lost money. Supporting siblings financial, parents & even my ex-gf’s hence not much saving ( yes, I’m very generous hehe)
I have 4 insurance policy
Insurance 1 – MYR200 per mth/ 20 yrs (maturity 2018)
Insurance 2 – MYR200 per mth/ (maturity 2018)
Insurance 3 -  MYR100 per mth/ (maturity 2018)
I foresee a return of MYR200k upon maturity in 2018.
All 3 insurance policy above from MICS, supporting my best friend when she was agent back then!
She left some time ago, I have no idea if MCIS will still entertain me if I would like to check the value & possible gain upon maturity of those policies.
But in a way its good cause I don’t really have discipline to save.
Insurance 4 – SGD100 per month / 10 years (maturity 2014), conservative estimation can get MYR50k with 2.5x exchange rate. 
Saving per month not much cause a lot responsibilities, supporting parents, wife to be & lifestyle.
EPF ~ 100k, just started working in Malaysia for the past 3 yrs. All this while in SG no CPF
Credit card debts – 5-6k
Btw, I’m planning to marry my Muslim GF hence I would be eligible to invest in ASB.
I do not know if I should take loan to invest in ASB, I read some said not worth it while some said go for it.
What would be your advice to me on how i could further maximize my gain for future?
many thanks
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Hi

You did mentioned about stocks, what stocks is that btw. just curious .. hmm.gif
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post Oct 9 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 9 2012, 09:29 AM)
you already have more than 20K at 24?

I dont even have 5K that time... haha
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I have 15K at the age of 21. I earned a single penny depend on my selves. Families not giving me anymore single cent to spend. and I'm not staying with family, I leave my hometown at the age of 17 year old and went to big city alone //

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post Jan 4 2013, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jan 2 2013, 08:37 PM)
3rd Plan to take a personal insurance Public Bank offer with ING - RM57 monthly accept until age 70 (RM57 fix no increment), RM200K insured, hospitalization- RM200 a day max 90 days, ICU - RM400 a day max 30 days, ...Sifu this one ok?



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AAAABBBB,

Hi, do mind to share the plan for this name?

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post Jan 5 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jan 4 2013, 06:47 PM)
They call my hp and explain that plan from Public Bank and ING insurance plan. I forgot the name, but they say can check at Public bank website

Can call Toll Free Number at 1-800-22-9999 to find out more!

http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...ance/index.html


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Thanks,

I guess it "PB Family Care PA" under ING and Public Bank.

Info, http://www.pbebank.com/en/en_content/perso...nce/family.html

But, I'm taking this one. Found out this is not bad for Insurance PA, hospitality benefit up to 200 days with maximum $200 per days, double indemnity for accident up to maximum $300,000, disability payable maximum $400,000, medical reimbursement and etc. with payment as low $41.10 per months.

http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...NS01-GetStarted


http://www.maybank2u.com.my/WebBank/eINS_PrivilegePA_bch.pdf


Just ignored those people, I found out some people will look down on me because I'm merely a salesman when I was young, when you attain success later life and get to the tops, they will not be able to "bang" neither question your ability any longer.

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post Jan 9 2013, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Jan 9 2013, 11:04 AM)
Food maybe can but RM 100 impossible ah. My lunch 1 meat 1 veggie already RM5.

Transport is fixed already. I travel by bus and MRT, not in KL. Hehe..
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Jerrymax,
You mentioned about MRT, MRT already began their operation?
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post Jan 11 2013, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jan 11 2013, 08:30 PM)
I like this smile.gif

How to Live Cheaply
http://www.wikihow.com/Live-Cheaply

How to Retire in Your 30s
http://www.wikihow.com/Retire-in-Your-30s

How to Calculate How Much Money You Need to Retire
http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-How-Much-...-Need-to-Retire
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I like this,

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=180752...pe=3&permPage=1

Agree with your link, but not all of it especially when it mentioned about "try living without car", If you're doing business and especially sales industry which require to meet certain clients and outdoor type, it is a important to own a car, it should mentioned "buy car that's not expensive and economy fuel type".

Car is indeed a liabilities and bad debts, but depend on how they're going to use it, debt can be use to create more money and assets if use properly, time is important. if everyone do that, economy will become stagnant and die.

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post Jan 12 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Beachkid @ Jan 12 2013, 05:33 PM)
Yes thanks for proving my point. It is a freedom of choice.
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beachkid,

To the true, I'm agree with your statement, I had been crosses the field previously with the real world, it is totally different with what we had been taught in the school.

To your knowledge, I have several friend, age 21 year old only but yearly passive income generated from the business worth $150,000, real estate $20,000 monthly, and what more, he gained it by his own sweat, from nobody to somebody and not from any in heritage or luck. It you admire him, just set your goal for it, and go for it.

"有梦想就要敢敢想,敢敢做。很多时候,不是他比你会做,与他只是比你敢做"
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post Jan 12 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Beachkid @ Jan 12 2013, 06:10 PM)
You too will be rich someday if you continue having this attitude.

Yes, out of sight out of mind. I actually have told people before on some trips I have made about people below 30 making a fortune and some people have even outright called me a liar to my face.

It's sad that for them, this reality does not exist. It is like telling someone you know of a person who can fly. They cannot comprehend how a 20 something year old can be a millionaire without being:

i-born in a rich family
ii-winning a lottery
iii-selling drugs illegally and exempting tax
iv-or any other silly excuse

However, when you find that "group" and you mix with them your reality starts to change. This is my reality, and nothing people say or do can change it. That is why I am at peace now when people call me a liar or a spoiled child. Doesn't change anything.
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I think the system is called " law of attraction', surround yourselves with positive mindset people, it is say have some kind of magnetic field and behavior which will influence our behavior and mindset, a prudent in the field of business and professional career such as insurance.

No, it not a liar, it just they don't believe themselves and their capability, they should think if a person capable of earning $3,000 per month fixed salaries and able to produce these salaries, of course their superior think it worth the price and capable to increase the return more than that by their services. I believe we all have something in common, a birth certificate, our birth certificate written very clearly about our place of birth, races and so on. But our birth certificate never written in the first place that we cannot earn an income of $1,000,000 per annum in young ages, if they're not believe, they're not going to do it, if they're not going to do it, they're not going to achieve it with the right plan to execute. anyway, good luck on your journey to find your destiny smile.gif
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post Jan 12 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(qwertyuioped @ Jan 12 2013, 06:26 PM)
are you sure bro? most of people graduates at 21. There's no way he/she can gain his wealth that fast unless he started at a very young age. please enlighten me.
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Qwertyuioped,

Yes, i'm sure. You just have to make more friend in the real world, especially those youngster who relay on their effort to earn their income without a basic salaries, the world is a very big place. The hardest enemy always yourselves, your mindset, behavior and actions.

He start his business in direct sales at the age of 17 year old, earn an income around $150 per month at that moment as a part time, then change his career to insurance, and real estate at the age of 18 once he finished his secondary school, and venture into business and property today. If you check the list of singapore and malaysia, there's always a lot like these kind of man. Let back to topic, because I do not wish to comment too much because it not the main topic.

You may search google, "Dumbing Us Down" by John Tailor Gatto, and may read it if you wish too, then you learn something from it. Have a nice day.

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post Jan 13 2013, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Jan 12 2013, 11:24 PM)
i do not agree. A birth cert in M'sia with the word bumi can buy up to max RM400K ASB with a return higher than 7%

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AAAABBBB,

For investment 7%, that's not very high. if you know how to invest, then your return will be double than that amount. If whether they can invest ASB, that's their matter because you can't invest these fund except you fulfil their requirement. And for your info, ASB maximum is 200,000 units, only AHB can invest 400,000 units. If you do not agree, then that's your mindset and your matter, you won't believe yourselves can earn more than that rather become employment, then you will remain that till the day of your life. Just try to venture into one of the business rather than become employment , then feel the experience. "I rather be a wolf rather than be a dogs for other"

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post Jan 18 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(razor21 @ Jan 18 2013, 08:58 AM)
Hi ... im new fresh graduate working as goverment servant earning rm4500 after epf
currently already have a car and stay with my family
im looking to maximize my saving to rm500000 in 3 year... it possible smile.gif
any advise ???? hmm.gif

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Razor21,

There's no such as saving or investment method that can let you earn $500,000 in such as short time, especially three year. Regardless you're going to save it, you need at least $13,888 a month for 36 months to get $500,000. LOL shakehead.gif
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post Jan 18 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(razor21 @ Jan 18 2013, 02:46 PM)
Hahaha so it unrealistic dream..any advise so that i can maximize my saving?
I realy like stock market biggrin.gif  but unfortunately i dont have time to supervise the market everyday..
I do have public bank unit trust and phb investment account, is there any other good investment that could i try? rolleyes.gif
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I will tell you something, but you maybe found out that it is stupid or bad move.
Direct sales, pyramid scheme, or business but you may need a large capital with good mindset and management, if you have special skills like them in the outside. I always positive for direct sales because it offer good management skills and training.

Forex is a bad move, 90% of the investor lose money instead of making it, the one earn a lot only those people who created forex trading system and platform. Unit trust is not for short term investment, whether it give a good return, it is impossible to get $500,000 in three years at least you have million capital.

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post Jan 18 2013, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 18 2013, 05:33 PM)
And I only broke the RM100,000 barrier after my mum passed away. From life insurance payout rclxms.gif

Damn I shouldn't be clapping doh.gif

Only the lucky ones who don't have to pay much to support parents and/or a household have the luxury of saving thousands a month.
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LOL!!!!
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(youngman28 @ Jan 19 2013, 10:40 AM)
Brother,

Buying a first house for fresh graduate is consider a wise choice, since house is consider an asset , and you need some roof for yrs living. Try to get a house that you can affort comfortably to pay the instalment every month. The property market was at the peak at the moment, dun be too rush to get a property, try to walk in to more house launching and familiar with what type of property offer in the market, see the real shown house and etc. When they is an opportunity arise, just grab it.

For fresh graduate, buying a new car cost almost double yrs annual income is not a wise choice, you end up burden with the car instalment and please remember never to take loan > 5 year. For my experinces  owning a few local car at the initial age, the experiences told me Proton car althrough buy in cheap, but the resale value also drop like hell after 5 year, the more important aspect  like safety features was missing in lower end local car. Another aspect you need to consider is proton car tend to give you bad NVH after 2-3 year ownnership. If you want new and shining car at initial 1-2 years, Proton is yrs choice.

Since you are working on Island, and yrs family in Ipoh, and the distance i can say is not that far away. The better option is to buy a Japanese used car like T , H or N, car age allow 5-6 year, the car price have dropped almost haft the value, the cost between 45-55k, more important is the car depreciation will be lower, low spare part cost, easy to maintenance, less insurance cost, less worry on theive issue and much better car insulation and NVH, even after 10 year of ownership. This range of car used to be equiped with safety feasture like ABS, airbag, VSC, BA etc.  For personal matter, owning a Japanese used car , not look poor for me.

Hope this help.
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Youngman28,

Buying your first house after graduation is not a wise choice. Bear in mind, the default payment when you works later. It is not an asset, when later you found out the place is not strategic for investments and target growth areas, other than keep paying for a living, you're digging a big holes in your finance. House can be an asset or liabilities, property always focus on location and execution. They have their own advantages and disadvantages for freehold and leasehold. Your property is worthless if there's empty from people accessibility and demands. if you're holding your repayment too long, your interest that you're paying will legally give a bank another property for free, and you're paying two property but legally, you only owned one of it due to the interest payment.
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post Jan 21 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 20 2013, 02:36 PM)
I still have my old bike, almost 20yrs already. Dont know what to do with it as very seldom use now.
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Donate to the poor, and people who need it desperately, such as orphanage or old folk home. smile.gif
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post Jan 22 2013, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(iStevei @ Jan 21 2013, 05:40 PM)
erm... i'm a saver but not an investor (still learning)
My target is to have bout RM2k passive income monthly at least... and free from loan  tongue.gif
Study loan: Will settle latest by oct 2013
Car loan: Finish by 2013
Hse loan: NIL - no hse  cry.gif  my biggest headache LOL

still looooong way to go to financial freedom!
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Istevei,

Mind to share how old are you ? Your age is the priority to my doubt smile.gif
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post Feb 1 2013, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 1 2013, 09:19 AM)
Net worth? EPF balances kira tak? hmm.gif

If tak kira, I'm far off cry.gif
If kira, I think I got it biggrin.gif
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Pink spider,

EPF consider your own assets, the only different is the withdrawal at the age of 55 year old. yet, there will be a situation for you to withdraw the money before retirement.
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post Mar 25 2013, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(WiLeKiyO @ Mar 24 2013, 10:18 PM)
Anyone here using any Financial software to keep track your incomes and expenses ?
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WiLeKiyo,

Just create your own income and expense tracker, it is important and very useful way for budgeting and cutting unwanted costs. Please download from this page if you do not know how to create an income and expenses trackers.

Info,
http://www.akpk.org.my/tools/budget-application
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post Apr 2 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Apr 1 2013, 08:56 PM)
To be financially free must do something, no point talking and doing noting.

I know is hard but something must be sacrificed with time and luxury.

Like wise; must have discpline saving and cut unnecessariy spending. Im also salary-earner (RM60,000 per annum) age 31, no car, no airasia, no ipad, no fancy hanphone, no fancy haircut, no fancy old town , non-smoker, no clubbing, no broadband, no laptop, no pet but got 1 wife.
I can save, so can YOU.Happily save together.
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Felixmask,

LOL, how you online then and replied at this thread?

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post Apr 15 2013, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(AAAABBBB @ Apr 15 2013, 06:57 PM)
Nope my dad sell soyacincau hawker..Make he is like Ah Kau selling newspaper..diversify his business and make it lo...

I also scratch head till bald thinking how my dad a hawker can make it..He the other day offer me RM3K salary help him sell soyacincau in a van, work 6 days a week, 10 hours a day..

i bought apartment penang for RM230k in 2008, now worth 500k ...Not bad.. smile.gif
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AAAABBBB,

Please allow me to add on to clarify your way to make investment and reduce liabilities. So basically, you make a plan for $2,000 saving a months at least, put in secure fund which can let you earn more interest possibility at higher rates. once you had accumulated an amounts, you withdrawal it and buy asset that can let you earn more cash flow, or known as asset classes such as property and land. The question is, while in your world working harder every day, what do you think each day, all the time thinking to get more money? sorry, it a little bit about your physiology, behavior analysis.

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