>>> can you advise what you mean by : but in Shell things change very fast and if u not competent enough then bye bye lor...
any examples ?

actually, sbsc is not the same with shell anymore. the benefit is greatly reduced....recently many ppl resign from their finance dept. one of them is my friend. she says she cant take it anymore. soon, there will be a massive recruitment for finance, according to her. But, im not sure as Im not there. She also says something about transferring their work to other countries(i dont ask in detail, just listen as she is very sad that time)....to be frank quite dangerous.



This post has been edited by shaquenator: Dec 7 2010, 11:03 PM

improving ? if they want to improve doubt they will cut cost at the first place.

some correction

if you read other threads as well as some of the postings, you would be able to deduct :

1) shell is restructuring a lot of times, this is due to trying to globalize all different business and to become a competitive oil and gas player
2) shell is realigning the structure to group things to an entity that can be outsourced later
3) shell is now as good as other companies, which means the benefits and salary MIGHT have been downgraded, to allign with other MNCs are providing
4) many left is a usual reflection of such moves due to better offer, inconvenience location, cut off benefits due to creation of a service entity(that makes
it's employees feel something major is being taken away from them, usually family man) as well as mushrooming of new business service centres of
other companies that chooses Malaysia as a low cost area to leverage the cost, which is also
competing with Philipines and India.
5) a shift of opportunities move from the west to asia pacific, therefore many trying to fight for positions in Asia Pacific with the locals.

again, above are my opinion only. however if you decided to join, do look at the experience people's face, NOT fresh graduate face. For those fresh graduate whether come in under the graduate scheme or into service desk jobs....they are just "termakan" with the jenama SHELL, so as cheerful as you can get...for those experience ones, you might suspect it is the season for period or mid-life crisis, but it's NOT. And when you ask, their mouth will be more than wonderful to sing the sorrow song for you to hear....

there's only a few employee that face will always be glad :

1) fresh grad
2) employee that manage to escape from the SITI outsourcing
3) employee that manage to get promotion from service centres terms to shell malaysia terms

but at the end of the day, be happy to have a job lahhhhh....

This post has been edited by shaquenator: Oct 28 2011, 12:25 AM

sounds like you are applying their finance dept...

are you fresh ? fresh salary will be less than rm2.5K....that's for sure, plus with the inconvenience location, plus with the not competitive allowance rate, if I were you, I wont be much dissapointed. Seriously, there are really better paying company out there. and officially, the relocation allowance has been cut off for new staff under the graduate scheme

why u like to join shell ?

hhmmm.....seriously, those 2 allowances i think is depending on your salary scale, though the differences might be only rm50 for different salary scale. dont need to go to office everyday or only 1 - 2 days per week ? I dont see my friends working there doing that...

"if u want better salary scale in siham, then keep on upgrade urself with skills that siham wanted...i believe the salary scheme in siham is very good to flush out all the deadwood and underperform staff.." - last time used to be very good, then once the formation of business service centres happen, everything is no longer as good as you ever think, unless you are at manager or team lead level...

name lah all

between, how you know the salary there is more ?