i know it's bad to think of it, I just wish they will just die.

this could be his (hicks) parting shot at us mills financial could very well be the "owners" instead, & when they inject the money to RBS before deadline (though sources say they could have months ahead to pay but in doing so late minute could mean a quick profit as now LFC have to deal with the hedge Fund, mils financial.



all the hard work by the LFC board with NESV may come to nought. (hope not)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 15 2010, 06:24 PM

next thing we'll hear, hollywood will make a movie of this


though the argument on what basis (collateral) will MillsFinancial have to 'lend' the money to Hicks?
technically he (hicks) cant sell to his shares to Mill financial.

i'm at faith that the ordeal will be over & its gonna be NESV, & the old owners (G&H) rot in hell.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 15 2010, 07:01 PM

dem nervous now.

it looks like statements when NESV got control of LFC, they will listen to the problems but likely not indulge in quick fix, for now (pre everton game) will stand behing RH. as in several forumers here too (u know who u are) the pro RH<give him more time

january buys?

i'm not in expectation of going big spend in january in case those (players) that was indentified by RH & as in case RH gets the boot at the season's end; these players will/could be isolated then.

so..be prepared to fight for relegation, which as some of us pointed out, we are too good to be relegated, & highly won't.






so to those who help boot rafa (& those vocal of his strategy), it sure is not that easy to manage an illustrious english team & the english media, huh.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 18 2010, 12:32 PM

thank you duke (for not snapping at me while i can understand if u do feel like 'strangling' me ) , i cannot remember i wrote "hope you anti-Rafa supporters are happy" or maybe i did. but i'm usually pick my words aiming at the larger context.

I have tremendous respect for duke, & host of forumers who has & quote games, statements, players, at their fingertips. Myself I can't , not all players, not all opposition names, but I remember the moments, managers quips, & the context or the bigger picture. I sure I'll be ravaged if i ever go 20 questions quiz of Liverpool against them.

my last statement.


without doubt it was aim at general, usually not in reply at anyone specific. unfortunately i would group the anti-rafa or vocal about him (rafa) being detrimental to the state of affairs at LFc.

Time & again, many felt rafa was too micro managing LFc to the extend he appeared too powerful for LFC. players in & nitty gritty salary negotiations were usually NOT under the perview of the manager (or so i understand). Rafa was made to be too distant by players, explayers, media. basically no 'mourino-copy' in man-management. Maybe rafa made it TOO professional & it made it boring & hard to communicate to.

There are traits I dont like about rafa but I do identify that He did want TO WIN things, (not contented with draws, opps i dont mean to step on err someones toes)

He, rafa would (unfortunately) have to not please anyone in order to WIN at LFC. maybe the fight with the english media got him weary. Many of the anti rafa had said he go too many excuses. I tend to look at rafa was left alone to fight at too many fronts. fighting with owners, fighting to win, fighting for more (better) players, fighting with media, fighting his critics etc. rafa had the strategy, his mind is always ON football. pre games, post games, season break, tactics. even some players have been asked to do certain things (post match), never ever contented on the players performance (even if they had a marvelous game). never pat the players shoulder when they had a fantastic game. IT's just rafa, a perfectionist. maybe TOO perfection to some whinny players?

Should rafa had been not removed, maybe we wont be still no better at the top BUT i dont think we would ever, ever at second from the bottom. His strategies may not still win games (cause he thinks we dont have the right personel) but I dont think we could be crucified at man city, lame games in blackpool, everton >insert the forgetable loses< etc

I still believed if we had built on the 2nd place in the standings (spend on GOOD reinforcement/players & not selling/trading good players to buy players. (many many season red nose finally won the league? he too invested every 3-4 seasons & built on championship seasons)

Some felt that LFc was too foreign hence the 'pro english' came into the picture, this is where as a direct result of rafa leaving, we then to indulge sentiments. cole came in, Roy came in, out were some non-english palyers.

we weren't thinking football but left on sentiments. I believe RH apppoinment to lfc was base on sentiments, not really football reasons (unless one might have to take in account the shortlisted candidates forward to the board, which in that context RH was & a better choice over the less forgetable list)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 18 2010, 08:41 PM

following up on my post, if anyone of you had or experienced a englishmen as client (i did), head-of-department, etc, if you ever meet their requirement, its compliments like

"great" , "super"

"that's it, you delivered, I knew i can count on you" etc


it not like ...
when post LFc match, just won or played an excellent game trashing of opponent, & gerrard score 2 or more & rafa would pull gerrard aside to tell him
"gerrard, you know in the 65th & 70th minute where you we at position of the centre, you should have instead pass near oppose to wide...."

probably no compliments like "super strikes, captain!" [gives gerrard hug]


sorry i need to entertain/unstress myself with some nonsensical post

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 18 2010, 08:58 PM

I agree.

I said this before, some felt we suffered 5 years under Rafa, we should at least have to be fair to RH. (at least 1 season they ask)

Well it seems we'll have to see how it played, given the (as I see it) kids glove treatment of RH by the English media at LFC current predicament. We all know how they ravage rafa at his rotation policy....uoh I don't want to start this again.

we didn't dip, built & compete in tranfer market for good & better players


As above.


Instead of building, we are taken to look at pool /grade B,C players at transfer market. I'm not trying to absolve rafa faults , but I do look into that context.

DR, tks for taking the time to address my discontentment.

yeah i know its a stretch, but at-the-time G&H is probably in the mind of disposing LFc, • wanted a manager who would toe-the-line, • keep LFC to be better than at least 7th placed (at least they thought that even a monkey can do better than the last manager), • good candidates that could help LFC back to 4th is too expensive for the board at that time (look at rafa's salary) & • potentially another 'rafa copy' when asking for transfer budget, the list goes on.

RH in that sense, a sentimental favourite, he's english (mannered), wont be fighting with the media thus won't be frightening away investors/buyers for the club (LFC), is in the circle of good relations with fergie's cartel. maybe the last point it's too much conspiracy for some, but if one take in account the players transfer between that 'cartel', you (might just) sniff a whiff that something is amiss.




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the players is backing RH at the moment. (who is really telling the truth), we are told, see the body language of certain players, supposedly not in contentment with the manager's strategies.

I think not all players are willing to stand up for (my thoughts):
- in the even speaking out could mean shipped out, we have a manager that probably shd have defended player earlier than week(s) later. it would be an embarrassment the the player is singled out.

Let's be really honest we only have 2 or 3 world class players, some good & the rest slightly above mediocre. RH brought in sub-mediocre. joe cole? please.. he has 5 outstanding games in a season for chelsea, the rest mostly warming the bench.

being shipped out of LFC would mean having playing for a mediocre club in the future. only 3 i know/guess would be sought after by big clubs.

if there is anything LFc needs to learn in todays global football, its to have the killer's instinct. (double edge sword i know) we aren't the manager swapping club like RMadrid (not that i admire). but who is up there, & who is languishing above west ham.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 19 2010, 12:34 PM

+1

faith alone cant win matches. in that, you probably need 40% good players + 30% tactics + 20% ability + 9% home ground + 1% unbiased referee. (well it can change depends on opponents)

we need a concerted effort that starts from the top. (manager) but if he can't or doenst have the calibre to do so, LFC needs to shake thing up.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 19 2010, 01:10 PM

in my books (those reasons alone) appointing RH it seems base on sentiments, not my standard of 'footballing reasons'.

we had to indulge to some (senior) players feelings, some ex players (the vocal bunch), to bring or return to the old liverpool ways. I have to be carefull as there are tons of good things that made us who we were < am i mad? past tense? come on. i learn to accept that at the present moment we aren't great.

but on the other side, I know as we all will acknowledge, managing football club (esp the big clubs) is different now. we'll keep the good but need to change to progress ahead. I think LFc is in a mess when we could actually need an 'ultra' head.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 19 2010, 01:56 PM

dont feed the troll

i read our local paper (they had an article on john henry's squeeze to thank for)

but yours is more credible.

Linda holds a masters degree from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. she got the looks & the more importantly brainy too.

i suppose congrats is in order to the proud henry family addition (a baby girl in sept 2010).



sorry too many discontentment amongst Lfc chums. wanted to lighten things a little.

thank you hyperyouth_firepower & lilredridinghood for filling in the pieces i suspected off (board room wrangles) but never had the broad links.

rooney? as much as he's a excellent footballer, possibly the jigsaw that some feel could assist torres, i think not. some of which is his loyalty. He may be best pal with gerrard in the england camp (he mentioned gerrard took him under his wings when he first joined england, shared the same room) & as Duke pointed he is perceived to have the loyalty of $$$ over the club.

i can see why some fans cream over the possiblity of rooney


Not an ideal Liverpool player. probably has tons of passion of the game but possibly zero passion for club (well if you pay 250K pounds a week..) I'm sorry. I'll take tavez over him if the 2 is on the table.

i know its inevitable to talk about the possibility (now that he could come 'available' & we have new owners), & just maybe some, just someone within might ask to rope in another english player.

i digress


we might see more Joe Januszewski involvement in LFc. he i guess may be john henry's eyes in LFc. (i suspect he might be taking a transatlantic posting position)



he has been a LFc fan for many years but he probably knew first hand of the troubles & probably spend a larger amount of watching live LFc games post istanbul.

its good that NESV is looking to hear more of the fans. (hey even Linda Pizzuti's twitter is following SOS) we might not have a representation with voting rights but a broader say of the club & not shut out or dismissed as 'noises' and seeking injuction against some liverpools friendly forums.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 20 2010, 12:40 PM

I love joe

its him & the many many fans who did something & here we are (post new ownership)
truly inspiring reading. tks 4 d link, DR







this is soo true, people always critic us of our history, living of the past. we should & always remember its the history of LFC that made liverpool, liverpool fC. the memories of european nights, BPL games, moments, our past victories, failings etc

so go forth, inspire new fans my liverpool mates. (dont & not bragging of trophies, superstars, of kissing badges, blah blah)

who knows, another joe or more people like joe, will help continue the tradition & be part of the liverpool way.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 20 2010, 04:38 PM

can i serve u a 'taveners' sweet?

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Oct 20 2010, 04:50 PM

did he conspire with red nose? i'm sorry, uncalled for remark.