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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Oct 5 2010, 03:57 PM

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No player is untouchable.

When the player played poorly, then give other a chance.
Just like Ngog, top scorer for the team but yet being denied a starting place.
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 03:57 PM)
what did it say? share la...

but i couldnt care less what the newspapers here say. they're mostly biased towards their own team. I feel the writers lack a certain standard of professionalism. but thats just me...

rushmode: carra's age is fast catching up... but who to replace him in CB... he is slow, we all know that... but his pin-point tackles are valuable. its scary to see skrtel lunged in for the ball...  sweat.gif
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My view.
Carra last ditch tackle and game reading is better than Skrtel and still valuable to the team. Not to mention, Skrtel like to hold on opponent/opponent shirt in own penalty area, when set-piece and corner kick time
Pairing another CB with a better pace can compliment each other.
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post Oct 14 2010, 03:58 PM

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I don't understand the issue.

How come Texas can interfere with UK matter?
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post Oct 16 2010, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 16 2010, 09:18 AM)
To reiterate he had already said that he'd adopt the Arsenal model which means making smart little investments over time.
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I do not expect Liv to spend big and challenge the title.

What I would like to see is the club heading into right direction in term of financial aspect, aka do not spend beyond the club ability while at the sametime, seek opportunity to generate more revenue like new stadium, better and sound investment on players, develop academy for the future, breed young new player.

A top 7 finish and challenge 4th place year over year while in the progress of redevelop is more a realistic target.

New bigger stadium is a must and priority for the club future.
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post Oct 16 2010, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(cheez @ Oct 16 2010, 11:59 AM)
I think I read somewhere previously mentioning that the houses in Anfield's surrounding are occupied by Everton fans hence making the acquisition difficult.

As you can see below, there are houses surrounding anfield hence making expansion difficult but not impossible.
The problem is how to rearrange the families there and how to have them make way.
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I personally prefer an Anfield expansion rather than Stanley Park.
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Acquire nearby houses, and get agreement from nearby families to reallocate can be as costly as building a new stadium, and more difficult to be done.
No doubt, majority fans, players want expansion to retain the Anfield sentiment, but it is not easy task.


QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 16 2010, 12:04 PM)
Nice aerial shot. Gives one a good of how close Goodison Park is. I'd much rather stay at Anfield as well and am anxious to see how they plan to expand. Parking is going to be a b**** and traffic will be way heavier. Another two points to consider
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Parking is not major issue, I live in UK before. In such a country, you don't need to buy a car to travel around. In fact, even in London, we don't see traffic congestion like KL and in most Asian cities.

You just ride public transport and walk to your destination.
Sorry I never been Liverpool before, so I don't know the actual situation there.
Just post my experience there.

Public transport is good, when a bus is scheduled to arrive at 3.00pm, around 3pm, you will see the bus coming!
Unlike here, you never know when the bus will arrive.

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post Oct 16 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 16 2010, 04:43 PM)
wow.. never knew Goodison and Anfield were THAT close... haha.. smile.gif
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Even without picture, time and time again, media already talked it is across the park only.
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post Oct 16 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 16 2010, 04:59 PM)
i loled abit.. so close..  sweat.gif
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The other one look more like a cricket stadium.
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 17 2010, 04:54 AM)
Guyz u need to understand something, wif the amount he had during summer we cant expect him to bring in a decent LB wic gone cost us around $10 million the least... Then how bout midfield? He needs to add players to the squad wif a limited fund wic is very tough and on top of tat any wrong signing will cause the manager his position in future... U need to remember aso tat any new contract offers will also cost a lot of money and the transfer money is used for new contract offers aso...

RB had the same problem and even Martin O'Neil had the same problem.. Im sure wif a bigger transfer budget RH should b able to get decent players and add more depth to the current squad... But it also depends on our Scouts to get decent players wic will suit the current squad.. Lets wait for January transfer window n c...
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More money doesn't mean better player or right player as well.

Right personnel, right tactic, right mentality approaching to the game are more important.
Play with 2 DM with Poulsen + Lucas, even you have Torres, Ronaldo, Drogba in the team, with current display, may not get you a win either.

There are many many others team playing 10x better than Liv, even with so called "cheaper" player around.
Look how energetic and positive WBA was last night, they were looking for a win against MU in Old Trafford after getting the equaliser. This is the mentality a team should have.
Not the like, play for a draw only.
You play for win, not draw.
Negative mindset will only lead to negative result.

League table always never lie.


Added on October 17, 2010, 11:39 am
QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 17 2010, 01:25 AM)
If they're building it upwards, I can only expect a segment-by-segment renovation which, will ultimately end up in a world-cup-standard stadium?
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Building upwards is not easy.
It could mean need to redo all the piling work to withstand more higher load, eventually mean dismantle current stand, and doing the piling work and build stand again.
If like this, building a new one from scratch could mean easier and cheaper.

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post Oct 17 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 17 2010, 01:17 PM)
I really feel the takeover saga did affect the players performance on the field but since it's over now I expect to see some positive display from the team, lets wait for today's game n see how they perform.. cool.gif
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No positive display until Chritsmas, then time's up.

It is not only poor performance, but mentality also not right.


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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 17 2010, 02:13 PM)
What ever it is, LFC can not always be relying on Torres and Gerard. Every time these 2 guys gets injured and off-form we are screwed!
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Not 100% actually, the year when Liv finished second during 08/09 season, both were trouble by injury all season long, and seldom play together, particular Torres.

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post Oct 17 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Oct 17 2010, 11:29 PM)
Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson: "I don't think he (Torres) is physically unfit. We don't have any injury problems with him. He got battered for his performances at the World Cup and mentally he is a bit low. He needs a goal to get his confidence back. I have no qualms with his performance against Everton. I don't feel it to be a crisis because the way we have played today I don't think anyone would believe that is the type of football of a team in the bottom three. I think we can consider ourselves unlucky."

Wow. Just wow.
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Unlucky?

Liv has played 10 matches at least until now, I had not seen a single match, with good performance. Even got just briefly 10-20min, the rest, don't want to talk.

You cannot be 19th in league table after 8 games with "unlucky".
This is a must win match, even with "luck", Liv deserve a draw only.
Draw? 38points, relegation candidate.

Liv 1 win out of 8 matches stat speaks all.


QUOTE(reiben05 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:32 PM)
oh my god.. i think roy hudgson said that for our performance in the last 20minutes..

but in the first 70??  shakehead.gif
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Even with the last 20 mins, Everton never look will concede a goal either.

Liv as a team has no clue in final third. I wonder, whether they practice passing game, thru ball pass, or some creative pass at all during training.
Trailing behind 2-0, never has sign of coming back at all.
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 17 2010, 11:22 PM)
3 weeks from now you guys are gonna face Chelsea. And if you sack the manager now, that is gonna cause alot of problem from on and off the pitch, to players where they gonna be unsettle and if new manager being install before Chelsea game, they definitely need time to adapt a new style of play from another coach.  Believe me that's the last thing you want to see in Stamford Bridge.
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Languishing in 19th or 20th make no different. yawn.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:54 PM

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Like that, will Liverpool be "unlucky" to be relegated when season finish?

League table never lie.
Liv is sitting on 19th with second worst GD.

Is this a unlucky??

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 18 2010, 12:01 AM)
am i the only one who thinks RH NEVER starts with a 4-4-2?

he keeps playing with 1 striker.  vmad.gif
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Even play 1 striker after 2-0 down.


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post Oct 18 2010, 12:07 AM

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You cannot play 1 upfront with defender defend deep, and never push up for higher line.
It just means isolating your striker only.
This only work for smaller team that look for draw or damage control when facing much much stronger team, which mainly adopted by relegation battle team against top team.

Oh wait.. Liv is under relegation battle. doh.gif




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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Oct 18 2010, 12:17 AM)
CONGRATS ROY HODGSON!!! WE GOT OUR '19TH' NOW!!!!!!
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This afternoon, I just read this.

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Liverpool spent a lot of money paying compensation to Fulham to bring me here. I was feted as one of the best managers around. If eight games into the season people start saying that I'm no good at all and I have to go, that would be a sad day for me and for the club.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz12dNbmq00

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post Oct 18 2010, 01:05 AM

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The manager said it is not a crisis! doh.gif

For such a club, Liv sitting on 19th place after 8 games is not a crisis, then is what?
A norm?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716
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"I don't think it is a crisis, I thought the way we played today was not the level of a team in the bottom three but six points from eight games is a very poor return,'' he said.

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post Oct 18 2010, 01:12 AM

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The only 1 win in 8 games, come from scrappy game against WBA, which in that game, WBA is the team deserve to win somemore based on performance.

Sigh, don't know when Liv can come out with good performance to win even 1 game.
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post Oct 18 2010, 11:42 AM

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I simply cannot 'tahan' to see those pre-match and post match comment.

When everyone see Liv had a poor game, and lose 2-0
The post match comment is - Liv has a good second half and unlucky.
The actual fact, Everton let you play as they are leading comfortably and play with counter-attack, save energy. A team leading comfortably won't go all out to attack you again.

When Liv languishing in 19th place after 8 games, everyone knows it is a crisis or at least a mini-crisis (for those super optimistic one)
Post match comment - There is no crisis.

Sometimes, I taught I watched the wrong game.
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post Oct 18 2010, 03:16 PM

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I agree what Duke had said.
A manager may excel in a smaller club, doesn't mean one is capable to handle a big top club with star player around.
A manager may excel in Serie A doesn't mean one will be good in PL, and the style of football is totally different.

One thing is I would like to say is that please do not hire manager based on cv on cup game.
Cup result can lie, while league table/stat won't.


Added on October 18, 2010, 3:20 pm
QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Oct 18 2010, 03:16 PM)
1 win out of 8 to be exact
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It is hard to find any excuse from this stat.

The 1 is also a scrappy 1-0, by Torres only goal of this season.
Liv is not only fragile in defence, but also goal drought on the attacking side.
Double blow, that's why league table won't lie.

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Reputation is not about getting trophy only.

Just like Rafa, he has good reputation in CL, whereby Liv was always the team that being feared in CL under him, while may not win any trophy or second in the final result.
Some managers do have good reputation despite winning little trophy.

AW almost win nothing for the past few year, it doesn't mean reputation going down either.
Reputation come from how well the manager guide the team forwards, how well the manager able to perform and ability to turn thing around.
The most important how well the team can play under the manager.

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