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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Oct 18 2010, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 18 2010, 12:02 AM)
We went through another storm.

RH is cueless why we played like tat.

As i mentioned b4, lets look at the positive from this defeat.

The owners was here today. Will they commit more MONEY to get another BETTER Manager? will John Henry commit more Millions on a better set of Defensive players as our back 4 really suks.

Without a set of good back 4 and a few Alonso's, we will be doomed.......

btw, position 18 or 19 dun make much BUT for the New Owners to witness this Defeat really worth much more
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the same old digilife. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(messy @ Oct 18 2010, 12:04 AM)
yes, with 4-4-1-1 formation but with 4-4-2 tactics. Cant you see when ngog sub in, liverpool play better with ngog and torres upfront? btw, RH MUST LEAVEEE before we got the last place!!!  nod.gif
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erm... just now you mentioned Ngog was 2nd division stuff, should sell ASAP!!!!!
I rate him quite high as he's still young and was once quoted as a prodigy.
Keep faith! nod.gif

QUOTE(wyk85 @ Oct 18 2010, 12:13 AM)
No matter what formation you play, if play with attacking and positive tactic, sure can see the result.

RH tactic is like draw = win half jor :S

Imagine in dressing room, you tell ur players to play defensive game and dont so attk minded.

GH: Hi team, our aim today is to get a draw and please dont attk that much
Toles: @@! wtf?
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Who is GH? sweat.gif

Anyway, it's already past.
Hopefully things will turn to the better side after some modification to ANY of the departments in the team now that we got the new owner.

Keep Faith!
You'll Never WALK Alone!
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post Oct 18 2010, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(liez @ Oct 18 2010, 01:15 AM)
best performance under roy should be the 1st match against arsenal.
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after that it all comes down crumbling like the london bridge.
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post Oct 18 2010, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Oct 18 2010, 01:23 AM)
He should let Jova, Babel and Ngog played early... we played better during injury time, but it is too late already....
poor RH... sigh...
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exactly.
I'd rather see Jova and Babel replace Maxi and Lucas.
At least they can add in some pace and strength.

As for Ngog, he should be started to assist Torres and ease Torres to find the net.

QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 18 2010, 01:23 AM)
I hope in the next 24 hours there wil b an announcement saying tat RH is sacked and Kenny takes temporary charge of the 1st team! Even though its highly unlikely since the new owners juz took over... But the board members might think bout it..

Im nt sure when RH is gone consider tat we r in crysis, I guess he thinks tat we r Porstmouth!!! N im juz nt sure how many more games he need n wen the hell he gone stop repeating his dam blardy annoying statements....
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His pre and post match interviews are like salt and the showdown of the match is like a wound.
When you add them up, it's damn bloody painful!


Added on October 18, 2010, 1:32 amOff topic:
I was so happy that some of the trolls just now are being vekesyun by mod. laugh.gif rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by cheez: Oct 18 2010, 01:32 AM
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post Oct 18 2010, 01:46 PM

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A spat with Jamie Carragher, which ended with Torres gesturing for him to keep his opinions to himself, hinted at deeper problems within the Liverpool dressing room.

I mean has anyone spotted some problem here?
It seems like the players are being disrespectful on each other. Particularly the "senior" players.

I personally is getting tired of Carra to be honest. With his deteriorating pace and agility, he's still getting to start the match AND FINISHES it!
What's wrong with the manager?? Can't he see that there are better players e.g. Agger / Kelly which fit the bill?
Or the players are growing in authority over the manager?

We seriously either:
1. RH to buck up on his man management
2. Find a manager that can manage the players (as much as i dislike Ferguson, i'm quite happy with him leaving out players on the bench even if it means jeopardizing the result)

All in all, do something NESV (you're the one making decisions for us)!

Last but not least, You'll Never WALK Alone.
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post Oct 19 2010, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Monstar @ Oct 19 2010, 07:22 AM)
I wonder why Liverpool fans are known to be knowledgeable, understanding, patient fans. I believe nowadays we are no different from any other football club. Impatient, wants success immediately and throws a tantrum if we for any reason don't get it.
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the reason we voice out our opinions is not because we don't get it, it is because the WAY THE TEAM IS PLAYING!! IT SUCKS!!
chasing back my memories, I can't remember any performance as poor as this! Be it GH or RB era, our gloomy days weren't as bad as this.

The way the team plays is plain disappointment.
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post Oct 19 2010, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 19 2010, 11:43 PM)
Guys... just for the lulz... would u like to see this happen on club level... (im kidding k):
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LOL...
Come on! With his temper? I'd rather him not come.
Also, he's a toffee so Liverpool will be the last destination he wana come. tongue.gif
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post Oct 20 2010, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 20 2010, 02:48 AM)
Anyways here's a response to a banter to "everything's okay" fan, (I know its like a rant)

I wrote something too long. But let me rewrite it.

I have shortened it to this, but let me point it out like this;

Purslow meddled in the affairs of the team that lead it to its 7th place last season. He was also instrumental in instigating t...o trigger the 'mutual consent to leave' of Rafa Benitez. Not to mention we are made to pay 6 million so that Rafa could leave, pay 3 million so that Roy Hodson could come. You do the math. He may have the saving grace of voting out the 2 parasitic yankees, but that does not absolve him of his crimes.

I had like other Kopites stood behind the team every game thick and thin. More than that we fought for the welfare of the club, the one you know as "STOP.THINK.FIGHT" campaign to save LFC from the two parasitic leeches that tried to bleed the club to death. Heavens know if Rafa had stayed, probably we wouldn't be that bad today. But that doesn't matter, to some Kopites. No matter how bitter, life moves on.

I only know that there were 3 camps; (back then)
A) Rafa must not leave.
B) Rafa should leave. Replaced by other managers of his stature.
C) Rafa leaves and be replaced by Roy Hodson.

I was with Camp A all the way to the end, until Rafa announced his departure. And we were forced to switch to camp B. But many other Kopites blindly supported C, because they creamed in their pants when they saw how Roy Hodson brought them so far into the Europa league, blindly forgetting that we were ousted by the very same team that defeated Fulham. Of that I do not have to remind any Kopite. And who brought that disaster? Purslow. Who did Purslow served? The 2 parasitic Yankees.

But to the question why must Roy Hodson leave? We Kopites are the most passionate and supportive of our manager, whoever they are. We have been and will always be; ONLY if the manager supports the club and the players, as well as the fans. Roy Hodson did nothing. Not only did he fail to impress his mark on the club, he had also fail to defend the players when it was needed; he prefered to be "uncle Roy" that kept friendship with RedNose than to defend our players, and with his antics at the Meyserside Derby was the one last straw that broke the camel's back. Roy Hodson has ZERO appreciation of Liverpool F.C. Enough said. He has to go.

You claim that I live in the past, yet you downplay the value of history of the club. It is by the virtue of appreciation of the history of the club that impressed upon a young American (who had Liverpudlian mother) that as in this story

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...ue-mission.html

a fan, a supporter of the club took action and now we had the NESV take over the club. Who knows how long more do we have to suffer under the the hands of previous owners? But I'm still not happy, not content. We must have fan and supporter representation at boardroom level, akin to the model of Real Madrid F.C and Barcelona F.C. S.O.S (Spirit of Shankly) is already the right and first step towards that. Once bitten twice shy. STOP. THINK. FIGHT isn't just a slogan. it isn't just about keeping the faith. Its not about screaming "You'll Never Walk Alone" and just be at it, hoping everything will turn fine.

Also, when you say Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley didn't had troubles, you are so damn wrong. So far from the mark. Liverpool FC, before Bill Shankly was made manager was already languishing in the Second Division, despite having winning 5 prior Division One championships (which is the equivalent to today's Premier League). 5 wins and still lingering in the second division. Not only he fought to promote the club back to the top flight (Division One), but he made the club successful. Tell me, read the whole damn thing again. Was Liverpool FC "wasn't" in trouble? Was it NOT a problem? Think again.

For Bob Paisley, he had a task to take over the reins of a man who rebuilt Liverpool F.C single-handedly. It does draw parallel resemblence to today's scenario where "after Rafa, who?" debate. Tell me that isn't a problem.

One of the words that made Shankly so special in the hearts of Liverpool FC supporters is that despite him being a socialist, are but many of the quotes that he lived.

“Above all, I would like to be remembered as a man who was selfless, who strove and worried so that others could share the glory, and who built up a family of people who could hold their heads up high and say, 'We're Liverpool'.”

"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life."

A true Liverpool fan would not just be singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" and just live his days pretending all will be alright. There is nothing gained in idleness.

As much as we keep the faith, and go on with you'll never walk alone, but without looking at the care for the club, its all for nothing. Nothing.

And you won't want me to start harping about the players. To me, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher will have to leave. Even if its Torres, if he can't wear the Red shirt with the passion, and if he forgets that NOBODY is above the club, they will be reminded of a certain Michael Owen. Nobody is higher than Liverpool F.C.
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well said, and I don't really see the urgency or passion they once possessed. Even if it's captain marvel. Heck, even Jay Spearing went screaming around when the boys were down.

Liverpool are too GER-CAR centric.
In a way, they are the ones which affect the playing style of the current Liverpool and it ain't nice to watch. shakehead.gif

QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 20 2010, 03:18 AM)
I would never want to c Steve G leaving shocking.gif .. For me he is the best captain a club could have, a passionate, hard working and never give up attitude type of player... He proved tat wif wearing the Reds shirts n also the White's shirt for England!
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Last few seasons, I'd agree to what you've said.
But now after these few matches, I'd say both Gerrard and Carra can go. I don't really see the effort given as much as previously. With a deteriorating unit in the squad, it's just liability and forbid other potentials to step up.
With them dictating the direction of the club, I'd say the exit door is that way --->
No one is bigger than the club.

QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 20 2010, 08:54 AM)
Let's be realistic, Purslow is NOT slow! He knows who is the real bo$$ is, even though H&G brought him in. There is no way H&G is going to continue owning LFC. H&G just dun have that kind of money to pay RBS.
Hear hear, RubbisH has to go!
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If you want RH to go, might as well bring along Carra, Lucas, and Gerrard. smile.gif

No offence to anyone, just voicing out my opinions based on what I saw.
I've been a Liverpool faithful through the years. I'm equally saddened as all of you true fans. And currently, this is the worst start of the season since I can remember my own name.
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post Oct 20 2010, 11:17 AM

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It's a bit awkward to see Wayne Rooney related topics here.

Just for the fun and try to make it short.
Never really liked the kid.
Arrogant, hot-tempered, face problem, etc. Even though he's good at his footballing, his attitude fails him.

As for those who were thinking of him coming to Liverpool, he's a toffee and Liverpool would be his last destination. laugh.gif
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post Oct 20 2010, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(sissoko @ Oct 20 2010, 07:02 PM)
our squad at naples...

Reina, Jones, Hansen, Konchesky, Aurelio, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Wilson, Carragher, Kelly, Spearing, Poulsen, Shelvey, Maxi, Babel, Jovanovic, Pacheco, Eccleston, Cole, Ngog.
can win?
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-----------------Reina-----------------

Kelly----Wilson----Kyrgiakos----Aurelio

Cole---Spearing---Poulsen---Jovanovic

------------Pachecho--Ngog------------

Babel for Pachecho / Ngog


This is the line up I would like to see.
Although it's unlikely but I do hope the youths could step up to the task and shine especially Pachecho, Kelly, Spearing and Wilson!

You'll Never Walk Alone!

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post Oct 21 2010, 11:38 AM

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In the context of Manager, I'd prefer Riijkard over Pellegrini cuz the former has the history of winning a league.
Some say that Riijkard plays one touch flowing football, well I do hope to see that in Liverpool and players have to adapt! Not the style to adapt to the players! Else, come Jan window, bring in some people that can play one touch football.
In the current team, I can see a considerable amount of players that are able to play one touch football whether it's in the defence, midfield or striker.
So what is there to worry about?

In the context of Torres leaving to MU, that's the least of my worries now.
The on-field performance and results are more important.

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