QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 20 2010, 02:48 AM)
Anyways here's a response to a banter to "everything's okay" fan, (I know its like a rant)
I wrote something too long. But let me rewrite it.
I have shortened it to this, but let me point it out like this;
Purslow meddled in the affairs of the team that lead it to its 7th place last season. He was also instrumental in instigating t...o trigger the 'mutual consent to leave' of Rafa Benitez. Not to mention we are made to pay 6 million so that Rafa could leave, pay 3 million so that Roy Hodson could come. You do the math. He may have the saving grace of voting out the 2 parasitic yankees, but that does not absolve him of his crimes.
I had like other Kopites stood behind the team every game thick and thin. More than that we fought for the welfare of the club, the one you know as "STOP.THINK.FIGHT" campaign to save LFC from the two parasitic leeches that tried to bleed the club to death. Heavens know if Rafa had stayed, probably we wouldn't be that bad today. But that doesn't matter, to some Kopites. No matter how bitter, life moves on.
I only know that there were 3 camps; (back then)
A) Rafa must not leave.
B) Rafa should leave. Replaced by other managers of his stature.
C) Rafa leaves and be replaced by Roy Hodson.
I was with Camp A all the way to the end, until Rafa announced his departure. And we were forced to switch to camp B. But many other Kopites blindly supported C, because they creamed in their pants when they saw how Roy Hodson brought them so far into the Europa league, blindly forgetting that we were ousted by the very same team that defeated Fulham. Of that I do not have to remind any Kopite. And who brought that disaster? Purslow. Who did Purslow served? The 2 parasitic Yankees.
But to the question why must Roy Hodson leave? We Kopites are the most passionate and supportive of our manager, whoever they are. We have been and will always be; ONLY if the manager supports the club and the players, as well as the fans. Roy Hodson did nothing. Not only did he fail to impress his mark on the club, he had also fail to defend the players when it was needed; he prefered to be "uncle Roy" that kept friendship with RedNose than to defend our players, and with his antics at the Meyserside Derby was the one last straw that broke the camel's back. Roy Hodson has ZERO appreciation of Liverpool F.C. Enough said. He has to go.
You claim that I live in the past, yet you downplay the value of history of the club. It is by the virtue of appreciation of the history of the club that impressed upon a young American (who had Liverpudlian mother) that as in this story
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...ue-mission.htmla fan, a supporter of the club took action and now we had the NESV take over the club. Who knows how long more do we have to suffer under the the hands of previous owners? But I'm still not happy, not content. We must have fan and supporter representation at boardroom level, akin to the model of Real Madrid F.C and Barcelona F.C. S.O.S (Spirit of Shankly) is already the right and first step towards that. Once bitten twice shy. STOP. THINK. FIGHT isn't just a slogan. it isn't just about keeping the faith. Its not about screaming "You'll Never Walk Alone" and just be at it, hoping everything will turn fine.
Also, when you say Bill Shankly and Bob Paisley didn't had troubles, you are so damn wrong. So far from the mark. Liverpool FC, before Bill Shankly was made manager was already languishing in the Second Division, despite having winning 5 prior Division One championships (which is the equivalent to today's Premier League). 5 wins and still lingering in the second division. Not only he fought to promote the club back to the top flight (Division One), but he made the club successful. Tell me, read the whole damn thing again. Was Liverpool FC "wasn't" in trouble? Was it NOT a problem? Think again.
For Bob Paisley, he had a task to take over the reins of a man who rebuilt Liverpool F.C single-handedly. It does draw parallel resemblence to today's scenario where "after Rafa, who?" debate. Tell me that isn't a problem.
One of the words that made Shankly so special in the hearts of Liverpool FC supporters is that despite him being a socialist, are but many of the quotes that he lived.
“Above all, I would like to be remembered as a man who was selfless, who strove and worried so that others could share the glory, and who built up a family of people who could hold their heads up high and say, 'We're Liverpool'.”
"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life."
A true Liverpool fan would not just be singing "You'll Never Walk Alone" and just live his days pretending all will be alright. There is nothing gained in idleness.
As much as we keep the faith, and go on with you'll never walk alone, but without looking at the care for the club, its all for nothing. Nothing.
And you won't want me to start harping about the players.
To me, Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher will have to leave. Even if its Torres, if he can't wear the Red shirt with the passion, and if he forgets that NOBODY is above the club, they will be reminded of a certain Michael Owen. Nobody is higher than Liverpool F.C.well said, and I don't really see the urgency or passion they once possessed. Even if it's captain marvel. Heck, even Jay Spearing went screaming around when the boys were down.
Liverpool are too GER-CAR centric.
In a way, they are the ones which affect the playing style of the current Liverpool and it ain't nice to watch.
QUOTE(all blacks @ Oct 20 2010, 03:18 AM)
I would never want to c Steve G leaving

.. For me he is the best captain a club could have, a passionate, hard working and never give up attitude type of player... He proved tat wif wearing the Reds shirts n also the White's shirt for England!
Last few seasons, I'd agree to what you've said.
But now after these few matches, I'd say both Gerrard and Carra can go. I don't really see the effort given as much as previously. With a deteriorating unit in the squad, it's just liability and forbid other potentials to step up.
With them dictating the direction of the club, I'd say the exit door is that way --->
No one is bigger than the club.
QUOTE(DarkNite @ Oct 20 2010, 08:54 AM)
Let's be realistic, Purslow is NOT slow! He knows who is the real bo$$ is, even though H&G brought him in. There is no way H&G is going to continue owning LFC. H&G just dun have that kind of money to pay RBS.
Hear hear,
Rubbis
H has to go!
If you want RH to go, might as well bring along Carra, Lucas, and Gerrard.

No offence to anyone, just voicing out my opinions based on what I saw.
I've been a Liverpool faithful through the years. I'm equally saddened as all of you true fans. And currently, this is the worst start of the season since I can remember my own name.