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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V46!, The Orange Legion

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post Oct 5 2010, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(mastering89 @ Oct 5 2010, 10:09 AM)
Mikeshashimi : erm, i dunno. but i juz use the dynamic HDR application only .  sweat.gif

zstan : nice flower and lugia shot kakaka  laugh.gif . erm try to make the flowers (middle group) to color and others B&W  smile.gif

ahpingko : u kasi her NEX/a33 sure she loves u more  whistling.gif
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thanks thanks. lugia?lolx..oo..okok will try that when i have time.. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(jim0n @ Oct 5 2010, 10:13 AM)
Hey guys, anyone ever used the Minolta 28-80mm f3.5-5.6 lens? Would it make a better walkabout lens than my 18-55 kit lens?

More importantly, is the image quality better than the 18-55?
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what's your definition of walkabout?

its certainly not wide enough for group shots(if you are using APS-C body). if you are more likely to use it to take street pics or portraits still quite okay..

IQ wise no comment(didn't use before).
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post Oct 5 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 5 2010, 10:27 AM)
guys, will like to seeks ur opinion on this. i am looking to purchase a new lens. but duno which one to choose. hope you guys can give me some advice.

1) Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR DI-II LD Aspherical (IF) AF Zoom Lens with Macro
2) Tamron AF 55-200mm f/4-5.6 Di-II LD Autofocus Zoom Normal-Telephoto Lens
3) Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 Di LD Macro Zoom Telephoto Autofocus Lens

i am looking at no1 option also because its like all in one lens and i not need change lens. but now i am confused abt those 3. which one will give better used and quality photos and faster focus speed? tamron compare to sony's own lens, the AF speed and photos quality very much different? would like to seeks all shifu's advice! thanks!
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you are not comparing apples to apples in the first place..IQ will definitely be different la bro.. laugh.gif (comparing between the 3 lenses, and not Sony vs Tamron).

unless you comparing 55-200 Sony & tamron..

QUOTE(electron @ Oct 5 2010, 10:35 AM)
in this case, i would recommend the almost similar price panasonic FH1
just did almost similar comparison for my mum
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so what's your verdict? laugh.gif

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post Oct 5 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 5 2010, 10:47 AM)
i mean if among that three, which one will produce better photos shooting experience..and also then compare with sony brand of same type of lens, issit very much different as well? cos sony also got produce 50-200 and 70-300 lens..but price more expensive lor~tats why i wan to know sony and tamron give very much different of quality and af speed or etc?
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what kind of photo experience do you prefer? at the wide angle end or telephoto end?

55-200 sony is quite cheap..just the 70300G is a lot more expensive because its a different class compared to the tamron..forget about it at the moment..

QUOTE(ahpingko @ Oct 5 2010, 10:51 AM)
FH1 is 599...

that sony w310 is 499 according to its own web!..wakaka...

here
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aiyo price also not same..how to compare fairly.. tongue.gif

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post Oct 5 2010, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 02:17 PM)
Hi..i am looking for new dslr..sony in my first choice follows by canon....I have try out Sony A33 at Sony style, it seems to be slow in process time....not suitable for me to take my kid photos....I guess A55 will be the same.

Can any expert here suggest for me from these 3 models (all expected to be out later these months):
1. Sony A580
2. Canon 60D
3. Sony A55
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what do u mean slow processing time?
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post Oct 5 2010, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 02:28 PM)
When i try the A33, when you take a short, the camera will freeze a while before you can take another photo. Not like canon 550D or sony A550 which can take photo immmediately...shutter speed is ok....i believe is the internal process time.
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are all the settings the same with 550D and a550 when you use the a33? are you even using the same type of memory card?

QUOTE(Anly @ Oct 5 2010, 02:28 PM)
hmm!! i think i got ur meaning.. so like wan quick and fast capture, 18-250 is convenient.. but 55-200 is better in IQ .. so depend on situation and suit ur need..then really hard to choose..  sweat.gif
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is it so hard to change the lens?
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post Oct 5 2010, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(shootkk @ Oct 5 2010, 02:44 PM)
mike : Thanks for the explanation. Yes. It's the convenience.

zstan : It's not all that hard to change lenses. Just that sometimes, the moment will be lost by the time you get your lenses changed.

When I had only one body and I'm shooting a wedding. The 18250 stays on my cam. I'm not taking it off once the ceremony starts. If you miss the groom kissing the bride on that day there will be no way to get it back and I for sure DO NOT want to be explaining to the couple that I missed the shot because I was changing lenses!
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hmm.

for me if i am using wide angle zoom lens/wide-mid range prime, i'd stay close with the couple, to lessen the chance of missing that moment.

and if you are talking about split second moments, by the time your lens auto focuses from 18mm to 250mm range, the moment is also lost as well.

18-250 is not a SSM lens, if i remember correctly.

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 03:12 PM)
are you sure you can change lenses faster than the 18250 can AF?
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on 2nd thought, no, already removed that part. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 03:38 PM)
Mikeshashimi: Thanks for your advice, I will wait for all 3 models are out before i made my decision.
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but in the first place, why do you have these 3 models in mind? just because they are new?
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post Oct 5 2010, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 03:43 PM)
well obviously new models equate to newer technology hence better features (not ALWAYS the case).
and new DSLR users dont usually want a dinosaur DSLR.
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 03:58 PM)
haha...not to worry...this is cyber world....free to say anything.....anyway...Mike shashimi do have a point...every new user will want the latest and not all new dslr is better.....everybody should know right....but i will welcome any critic on these 3 models...at least give me some point so i won't make a mistake when i made my decision in next few months....
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nola. he was refering to my dinosaur model. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

anyway, do you know what are the so called 'special features' for those 3 cameras? have you read reviews about those 3 cameras? rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Oct 5 2010, 04:04 PM)
Eh ya why ah? Why Sony no top LCD...?
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only those higher end bodies got... sad.gif

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post Oct 5 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 04:13 PM)
haha...well everybody love dinosaur...i have a dinosaur (minolta 7xi-film slr) sitting in the store room..not sure what to do with it....so far all have the latest technology and their own special features.... but A55 dslt is still very new technology..don't think sony has perfect it....probably when A77 is out then the dslt will be mature....i still like canon 60D but the moie format is in .mov format...i need the .mp4 format...so have to wait for A580 to compare....
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hmmm...ur main purpose to get a DSLR is to take movies? hmm.gif

and i think the movie format is a small issue la..just download some software convert lo..

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post Oct 5 2010, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 04:26 PM)
no la...i want a dslr with movie.. to take photo and movie of my kid....so she will know how she was when she grown up in the future.....2 in 1 ma.....and seems like sony also has no choice to follow canon and nikon to include movie function...i guess all future dslr will have movie function.
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is not sony follow canon & nikon.

is sony want to make sure the movie recording works very well only they put it in the cameras.

that's why they developed the translucent mirror technology, which enables AF even in movie mode.

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post Oct 5 2010, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 04:38 PM)
Mikeshashimi: I was very happy when sony announce A33 and A55 and even more trill when Dpreview rated A55 a 76. But after that more reviews came out with more bad news....If take continuous frame, A55 will timeout for a long time before it can use again...then movie can only take 6 min or 9min with IS off before overheated. It seems that Dpreview miss quite a lot of problem of A55.....but sony did mentioned in photokina 2010 that A77 will be much improved but will be out only within a year.....so kstan has to wait for her replacement of A700 for another year...haha. I actually waiting for A700 replacement but I quess waitng for another year will be too long for me....sony is too slow ...
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nola.read carefully. with IS off can take up til 29 minutes.

and those problems are neglible, if you ask me. you won be using 10fps all the time.
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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 04:51 PM)
sorry ..max video recording is 13 min at temperature 30 degree C, 29 min if 20 degree C.

canon 60D is 29 min.
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let me ask u..how many times are you going to shoot at 30 degrees?

and..is the writer of the article that you read a canon user?
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post Oct 5 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 05:04 PM)
sorry dear...malaysian weather is around 30 degree....so we will face higher chance of getting overheated....worst the test carried out by some review, after overheated....it will off for 5min....and if retake video ...it will last only 3min before overheated again...

for canon...i read one review..not sure which one..did mentioned it.....have to find that article again..haha
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not really.

i don't know what to say anymore. if you find this fact disturbing, then by all means go for the canon 60D. smile.gif
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yeah, and if you are really shooting your kid, are you sure that your kid will stay still for 29 minutes for you to shoot?

assuming he/she is playing toys, will u be there filming 29 minutes none stop of your kid playing the same toy with the same action?

if he/she is running around the house, are you going to carry you camera and videoing your kid for 29 minutes none stop and chasing your kid at the same time?

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post Oct 5 2010, 09:41 PM

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tested the EPL-1 before..

dun like it..especially the controls..typical 'olympus'..
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post Oct 5 2010, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 09:45 PM)
owh really? coz ive never tried the PEN series...
care to elaborate? (i hope this is not going out of topic or anyting)
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haha. performance wise..no comment la..high iso performance..although not as good as NEX but still acceptable..

if i want to change shutter speed..i need press the directional pad twice.

so if the up button, is change shutter, i need press once, then press again to change to the shutter that i want. same thing for aperture(left n right for this case)

the PEN feels bulky, only slightly lighter than my a300 without the battery grip.

it certainly won't fit my pocket. and its fugly. laugh.gif


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post Oct 6 2010, 09:01 AM

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my dad dun wan buy NEX liao bye.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Oct 6 2010, 09:06 AM)
why u always express ur feeling here? looking for star?
crying like a baby.. sweat.gif
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what star?

its just a emoticon la..where got really crying.. doh.gif

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