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post Jul 11 2012, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(beer8bottles @ Jul 7 2012, 09:51 PM)
Spotted at Irene Aquarium:

Paddlefish, about 15cm+ going for RM 198.

Dragon goby, RM 110. Looks like a deep sea creature.

Sturgeon: RM 45

Tempted to get the paddlefish but its plankton diet is a bit of a put off.
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i bought 1 sturgeon from irene aquarium 4 months ago.. doing well but not easy to feed... currently on worms... trying to teach them eating pellet... i also once have paddle fish but really2 hard to get them feed.... mine ate worms only... could not train them to eat pellet at all...they eat plankton in the wild... really2 hard fish to care.. mine died.... but a very rare fish to have...

i was planning to buy the dragon goby but it also is really hARD TO FEED.... not included in monster fish... can even be kept with small fish like neons bcoz they wont even eat them... able to eat pellet but very2 slow....


Added on July 11, 2012, 4:45 amim new here....im soooooo into exotic fish.... iv e been into this crazy hobby for 7 months.... i have 4 aquariums.... one planted neons aquarium and the other three are exotic fish... i will update on each exotic aquarium later... im really into gars, bichirs, channas, catfish, gobys, cichlids... i even have aba-aba fish...


Added on July 11, 2012, 4:50 am
QUOTE(beer8bottles @ Jul 8 2012, 11:47 PM)
Yeah, it looks really cool. Was tempted to buy on the spot, but I've no empty tanks at the moment.
I read that dragon gobies need cold temperatures and they are near blind. Going to be a hassle feeding. rclxub.gif
Still need to think if I wanna get them.
Any paddlefish owners here? How do you house them? (Also, how do you plan to house them once they grow really large?)
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i once own one.... really2 hard fish to care... not easy to feed... filter feeders... eat plankton and small insects... ikan longkang also can but small one only... mine died for unknown reason... it was 20 cm.... if u want to house them , u really need to have very big aquarium because they will injure their nose if its to small... try and go to the fish shop near the tasik shah alam... they have 2 feet paddlefish at rm500...

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post Jul 11 2012, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(beawolf64 @ Jul 11 2012, 08:41 AM)
hmm.gif  why dont you feed them with daphnia or bbs ....?can they work?
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yes they can... but paddle fish never stops swimming... so, u need to feed them everyday... not easy to go out and buy food everyday....
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post Jul 11 2012, 01:34 PM

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any sturgeon experts here?....

how to teach them feed pellet?... i have one around 20cm...Attached Image
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post Jul 12 2012, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ruthenus @ Jul 11 2012, 11:09 PM)
jangan bagi sturgeon makan apa-apa sahaja jenis singking pallet melainkan pallet 'hikari for sturgeon'. walaupun di syorkan oleh lfs tapi percayalah mereka cuma mahu jual 'barang' sahaja bukan kisah pun pasal haiwan kesayangan yang kita bela ni smile.gif untuk makluman sturgeon sangat sensitif dengan protein tumbuh-tumbuhan termasuk protein soya (yang biasa terdapat dalam pallet). bila sturgeon termakan protein dari tumbuh-tumbuhan serta merta kod merah pada sistem pencernaan sturgeon tersebut kerana terdapat gangguan bakteria. pertama: makanan yang mereka makan akan sukar hadam dan kedua perut makin mengelembung tanda-tanda jangkitan kuman.

paling elok bagi makan frozen blood worm. kalau blood worm yang hidup kena cuci dengan air paip atau kuaratin dulu tapi lecehlah,serius. baik beli fbw. untuk sturgeon saya satu papan tahan untuk 2 hari.

pengalaman bela ada 10ekor, then tinggal empat tapi sekarang dah tinggal tiga ekor sturgeon sihat wal afiat dalam jagaan saya. satu baru mati dua minggu lepas sebab lupa bagi makan (selalu bagi makan 3x sehari tapi sebab sibuk cat rumah telupa bagi makan 3x sehari dah jadi 1x sehari)  doh.gif 

suhu dah jadi no.2 penting sebab suhu normal air dalam akuarium 28-30 darjah selsius, paling penting pam masuk sebanyak mana udara yang boleh. tapi jangan melampau sangat. no.3 pastikan bagi makan selalu, jangan sampai perut nampak leper dan jadi ke cengkung ke dalam, paling kurang pastikan perut sama paras dengan perisai sisi perut sturgeon tersebut. saya ada pengalaman bela sturgeon satu tahun  icon_rolleyes.gif tapi masih rasa ilmu belum cukup lagi. dan untuk setakat ini, itu sahaja yangboleh saya kongsi. betulkan saya jika ada silap. sekian
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sy pun bg frozen blood worm.... satu papan tahan seminggu... saya tahu kene bg hikari for sturgeon... tp tak jual kat malaysia kan?.... ke ade?.... ingt klu dpt hikari for sturgeon senang skit... takyah asyik nak pegi kedai beli cacing.... tp hikari for sturgeon tak elok utk ikan lain.... mcm kita makan mcd hari2... high in fish oil.... sbb sy campur sturgeon dgn ikan2 lain.... so, tngh pening mcm mane nak senang bg die makan... ade tak hikari for strugeon jual kat malaysia?...

sy dulu ade bela paddlefish... tp susah sngt2 nak bg mkn.... dan sngt sensative dgn kualiti air..... mati for unknown reason...
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:13 AM

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im also interested in getting auranti.... does anyone know where can i get them? any fish shop available?
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post Jul 16 2012, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(LuQEE @ Jul 14 2012, 10:01 PM)
ouu... then i lost a pair of beauties in my tank, or they just hiding between the plants.

btw, where do you get ureself a raphael catfish? and how much do they cost exactly?
my oscar is biting my syno catfish which is the same size as him sigh... and i heard raphael is the best mates for them

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raphael catfish..... ive seen them at irene aquarium shop in PJ..... ive also seen them once at jalan pudu...
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ Jul 16 2012, 02:06 AM)
yup, +1. got my bichirs from him before cod at wangsa maju. awesome specimens! can get other rare fish oso. or u can try at irene shop. saw arapaima on sale at irene shop last year when i drop by there. still got ah?
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i dont see any... sold already maybe.... irene is where i usually go... once a week.... but i really like to know any other rare fish shop in malaysia..... mind sharing??....
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post Jul 16 2012, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ Jul 16 2012, 07:10 PM)
i change whole water for my whole 6ft tank,feel like wanna die. i use magnetic sponge to clean up the inner algae.


Added on July 16, 2012, 7:12 pm

just mention LFS for ayum_med,..
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just wanna know... what fish do you have?
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post Jul 18 2012, 03:39 AM

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Added on July 18, 2012, 1:04 amGot this from LFS today. Can anyone help me to ID the scientific name??
Lable as Blue rainbow....lol
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does the LFS has channa auranti?

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post Jul 18 2012, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(milolauda @ Jul 18 2012, 06:04 PM)
Any Sturgeon fans here?

Is it available locally now, if yes where

I used to keep 2# 6" before but died due to the water not maintained properly

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i have 20 cm sturgeon... healthy... irene in PJ has 10cm sturgeon at rm48... xian leng shah alam 40 cm at rm 500....
but this fish sooo hard to mix with other predatory fish... slow feeders....



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post Jul 18 2012, 06:13 PM

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[quote=aimank_88,Jul 18 2012, 06:09 PM]
I wanna get rid of mine too. How u gonna get rid of it? tongue.gif

me too... argh....
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post Jul 18 2012, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Jul 18 2012, 04:04 PM)
I really need to rid of my oscar! Argh!!
Need polyps  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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irene has polyps palmay (1st time hear this type) at 200+..., polyps weesky (also 1st time hear) at rm 280.... ornate at rm80... all around 20cm...
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post Jul 19 2012, 12:15 AM

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Just got my 2nd batch of amur Sturgeons~
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They are 6inch and feeding on pellets
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what type of pellet are u feeding them? and what brand?
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post Jul 19 2012, 12:17 AM

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btw, this thread is actually dedicate to primitive fish right? can other fish like predator or monster fish keeper like me lepak here too?
cant find any suitable thread la hehe[/color]
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off course can... im a monster fish keeper too... what fish do u have?....
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post Jul 19 2012, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(milolauda @ Jul 18 2012, 07:59 PM)
Wat do you feed him now?

mine used to eat live blood worms as he would sapu all of them on the bottom of the glass tank...

any pics of yours?

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i feed bloodworms... but trying to train into pellet... not easy to train.....v what happen to ur sturgeon?....
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post Jul 19 2012, 02:14 AM

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Feeding them with hikari's sinking pellet and some tetra's monster fish tablet too.
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wow... u r lucky... not easy to train them on pellet... how do you train them?...

besides, what other fish do u have?...



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post Jul 20 2012, 02:23 AM

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[quote=L3()nZ,Jul 19 2012, 12:26 PM]


I got mine from a local farm. They are trained to feed on pellets on the first month after they hatched. So they basically feed on pellets when i got them. Haha dun ve to train, very easy.
I heard there are actually two sp of sturgeons in the LFS market now.


wah,,...2 sp of sturgeon?... how do the other look like?

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post Jul 22 2012, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ Jul 21 2012, 01:16 AM)
u mean poli palmas, and weeksii?
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Yep...but very expensive....
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post Jul 23 2012, 03:17 AM

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Any LFS around kl and selangor selling channa auranti ? Really want one....
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post Jul 26 2012, 03:37 AM

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I wanna let go my oscar too... About 20cm.... Very nice fish bcoz he will be responsive when i walk in front of the aquarium... Sometimes i like to make it jump for the food when feeding...

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