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post Oct 22 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 22 2010, 12:27 PM)
if i sell orion backpack and messenger for RM200, cheap or not?
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i wan buy ^^
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post Oct 24 2010, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Oct 23 2010, 11:38 PM)
Suspecting the seller is either untrustable(conning) or he's a sales representative/staff in china selling refurbish unit/ new unit with staff price.

Let pluto answer that for the right answer.
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guys, i think u guys all guess the wrong answer.

Sales representative only handle new unit with the margin of 10% from the Original price u saw online there. which means if Alienware u saw online is Rm6000, the price of sales agent saw is RM5400. so u can call in to nego.

For refurbish unit only able to get by Engineering deparment, warranty and service department, sales and marketing department, Dell provide a good refurbish unit(without warranty) that thier parts mostly are in good condition, like my latitude, ARB unit(no warranty) bought 2 years ago, RM1.8k only with Core 2 Duo T9500, untill today haven spoil yet.

Electronice stuff are depends on ur luck, even though macbook, acer or other manufacture also face the same problem. Like M11x, mine untill now haven meet the hinge problem which most of the people here or oversea also face this problem.

For new unit, are u guys comfirm those parts are originally is new to make a new laptop? if u think yes, then u guys are wrong. Even though new unit that just launch, some of the unit are made by refurbish unit. 1 of my friend work in the engineering department there told me that, Only graphic card, proccessor, hardisk, ram are not refurbish unit, other parts mostly are refurbish
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post Oct 25 2010, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Traveler @ Oct 24 2010, 06:25 PM)
I'm currently using an almost 3-year old Dell m1330 (13.1" 1600x900, weighing around 2.1-2.3kg) with a 9-cell battery (up to 6-7 hours depending on usage), and am thinking of replacing it with either the M11x or the M15x. My main requirement would be portability (carry it to office daily, where I use it together with my dual-LCD screen desktop PC) as in addition to work usage, I also carry it with me for my international trips (work+holiday, approximately 4-6 trips per year, totalling around 40-50 days per annum travelling by air). I like the size/weight of the M11x but it does have a lower res screen than my current m1330 and I have read about the hinge issues. I like the quad-core CPU for the M15x and the higher res, but it's larger and about double the weight of the M11x/m1330, which would make it less portable. When I travel, my backpack usually carries my laptop, a DSLR+battery pack, flash unit, HD camcorder, small digicam, batteries (for all 3 cameras & flash), etc. so the weight does add up.

My main PC usage would be work (Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Outlook), surfing, movies & music (when travelling), and sometimes gaming (when travelling). It doesn't seem like I need an Alienware, but hey, I like Alienware, and I've always wanted one, so now I am going to get one. Cost is not a big issue, but I would'nt want to pay too big a premium for a tiny incremental gain in performance/capacity.

I'd like to ask the experts here, your opinion of which (M11x or M15x) I should go for. I have spec'ed a M11x and a M15x below which would most likely be the one I would get if I were to get one today.

M11x - RM6,235
- As mentioned in this thread earlier, depending on how you start configuring, you can end up with different prices even with the same exact specs. The other config I tried, with the same specs, ended up with RM6,339
- If I had spec'ed this one with 3GB RAM it would have been slightly cheaper, but I wanted to spec'ed it the same as the US version to compare prices and also confirm what I read earlier about getting 2 different prices with same specs depending on which option you started with
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Out of curiousity, I spec'ed the same exact M11x on the Dell USA website and got a price of US$1,664 (RM5,183 as of 24/10; even allowing for FX conversion charges, that is a HUGE price difference, over RM1k cheaper, the Americans are lucky to get it so cheap; do Malaysian-bought Alienware machines come from the US or from Dell in Penang?)
- the only difference is that the US version gets personalized Alienware plates (see red highlight) while the Malaysian version gets generic plates.
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M15x - RM7,989 (US version, same specs - US$2,408 = RM7,500)
- again the US version gets personalized plates which the Malaysian version does not get
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So... M11x or M15x? Portability (size & weight) with a smaller screen (and potential hinge problem) or larger screen but with double the weight?

Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Forgot to add:
I don't really need to use this laptop for gaming at home, as I have a Q9550/GTX275 rig with a 24" 1920x1200 Dell monitor for that (upgrading next year to the latest/greatest CPU/GPU/triple monitor setup).
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6k For m11x, is damn expensive, For SSD, try to get the other brand instead of getting it from Dell.

QUOTE(riku2replica @ Oct 24 2010, 02:46 PM)
so conclusion is Dell Alienware will not refurbish the hardware but the chasis, LCD, Web Cam, Touch Pad, keyboard, speaker?
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parts like CPU, RAM, GPU(some)and HDD, these parts are hardly to be spoil, so most of the time they put in new 1, for GPU, for some cases which burn thier GPU, then they cant made it as refurbish. For HDD, once it spoild, it cant be repair
Like Mobo, LCD, Webcam, Touch pad, Keyboard and speaker, just imagine, most of the time u heard that those parts are not functioning or any other thing right? and these parts are repairable.

What do u think that after they change ur mobo, and other thing, what will they do to the parts? throw away? they might throw away or recycle if they cant repair it, the parts they changed for u sometimes is new, sometimes is refurbish, what so different guys?

Refurbish, New, what so different? refurbish sounds bad? new sounds good?

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post Oct 25 2010, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(rhoyo @ Oct 25 2010, 09:56 AM)
hello guys wanna ask . where can i buy a 9 cell battery . my battery seems kong (rosak) sad.gif at lowyat got ka shop that sell alienware battery ?
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direct get from dell, is my recomandation. for m17x, the price is RM380++


Added on October 25, 2010, 10:13 am
QUOTE(Traveler @ Oct 24 2010, 06:25 PM)
I'm currently using an almost 3-year old Dell m1330 (13.1" 1600x900, weighing around 2.1-2.3kg) with a 9-cell battery (up to 6-7 hours depending on usage), and am thinking of replacing it with either the M11x or the M15x. My main requirement would be portability (carry it to office daily, where I use it together with my dual-LCD screen desktop PC) as in addition to work usage, I also carry it with me for my international trips (work+holiday, approximately 4-6 trips per year, totalling around 40-50 days per annum travelling by air). I like the size/weight of the M11x but it does have a lower res screen than my current m1330 and I have read about the hinge issues. I like the quad-core CPU for the M15x and the higher res, but it's larger and about double the weight of the M11x/m1330, which would make it less portable. When I travel, my backpack usually carries my laptop, a DSLR+battery pack, flash unit, HD camcorder, small digicam, batteries (for all 3 cameras & flash), etc. so the weight does add up.

My main PC usage would be work (Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Outlook), surfing, movies & music (when travelling), and sometimes gaming (when travelling). It doesn't seem like I need an Alienware, but hey, I like Alienware, and I've always wanted one, so now I am going to get one. Cost is not a big issue, but I would'nt want to pay too big a premium for a tiny incremental gain in performance/capacity.

I'd like to ask the experts here, your opinion of which (M11x or M15x) I should go for. I have spec'ed a M11x and a M15x below which would most likely be the one I would get if I were to get one today.

M11x - RM6,235
- As mentioned in this thread earlier, depending on how you start configuring, you can end up with different prices even with the same exact specs. The other config I tried, with the same specs, ended up with RM6,339
- If I had spec'ed this one with 3GB RAM it would have been slightly cheaper, but I wanted to spec'ed it the same as the US version to compare prices and also confirm what I read earlier about getting 2 different prices with same specs depending on which option you started with
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Out of curiousity, I spec'ed the same exact M11x on the Dell USA website and got a price of US$1,664 (RM5,183 as of 24/10; even allowing for FX conversion charges, that is a HUGE price difference, over RM1k cheaper, the Americans are lucky to get it so cheap; do Malaysian-bought Alienware machines come from the US or from Dell in Penang?)
- the only difference is that the US version gets personalized Alienware plates (see red highlight) while the Malaysian version gets generic plates.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


M15x - RM7,989 (US version, same specs - US$2,408 = RM7,500)
- again the US version gets personalized plates which the Malaysian version does not get
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


So... M11x or M15x? Portability (size & weight) with a smaller screen (and potential hinge problem) or larger screen but with double the weight?

Appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.

Forgot to add:
I don't really need to use this laptop for gaming at home, as I have a Q9550/GTX275 rig with a 24" 1920x1200 Dell monitor for that (upgrading next year to the latest/greatest CPU/GPU/triple monitor setup).
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Bro, actually those question is ask urself, u need power or portability, if u need power, m15x is ur choice, portable m11x is ur choice.

As i mentioned, in previous post, 6k is too expensive of getting a M11x, the performance is just half of the M11x, but paying in the same amount of price tag, but if u are looking for portability, the M11x is worth

For the FX conversion u can DIY while u get ur laptop, is not a big deal. For overseas price, Dell make a good marketing, as even u get from overseas it wont be cheaper than malaysia, unless u have friend or relative bring back for u from there(without paying shipping), 1 more thing is, we live in malaysia, get in malaysia bro, no point comparing unless like Asus(have a huge different on price which is Rm2-3k) getting from US.

For ur budget, i would go for M15x instead of M11x(perfomance), Core i7 640UM make me sick while playing games

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post Oct 25 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Traveler @ Oct 25 2010, 10:53 AM)
Do you mean, buy the m11x with HDD, then DIY swap out the HDD and replace with a 3rd party SSD? And then reinstall OS/Apps from the supplied DVDs/CDs.
YUp, 3rd party SSD perform better than dell SSD ^^ with high IOPS(random access), if it is hard for u to be done, bring it for me, i can free install for u ^^.
QUOTE(Traveler @ Oct 25 2010, 10:53 AM)
I think portability is more important for me, provided it meets my minimum requirements for performance. Since I don't game so much when on the move.. I can sacrifice some performance. Only I wished to have a similar or better resolution than my current  laptop - oops, just realized my current laptop is 1280x800, so moving to 1366x768 is actually marginally higher. LOL. I was so blur, I didn't check my resolution before posting.

I might just check the prices in the UK as well (I am 99% sure it will be more expensive there, but better be sure), as I do travel there often... and also I have friends there who can bring one back for me.

Right now, I am leaning towards the M11x for the portability, as I keep thinking about how heavy my travel backpack is usually (Dell m1330, DSLR + 1 lens, flash unit, DSLR battery pack, HD camcorder, small digicam, mini tripod, batteries for all 3 cameras and flash, laptop AC adapter, and the other stuff like passport, ipod, cables, travel guides, usb charger, etc..). If I get the M15x, I have to add another 2kg on top of that. Ouch.......  of course, the M15x got bigger screen and built-in optical drive...
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For the screen of M11x is vry poor(contrast low, high reflect), and it is 2kg+- same as 14" laptop. but small screen.....
if u think portability if more important for u, M11x would be ur choice(if u like Alienware ^^), if not macbook pro 15" will be ur choice, sinces it is same weight and performance is some how there, and have a better battery life ^^
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QUOTE(alvinkhorfire @ Oct 25 2010, 02:31 PM)
putochip123, can we say the same thing about the RAM itself? I mean that is it better to purchase RAM not from Dell? I want to know the best time to purchase 1 stick of 4 GB RAM in my M15x ( the time when it is cheapest).

So, you are able to provide free computer part installation to us? Thanks, that is so sweet of you.

Thanks for the advice given.
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u can get from me for the RAM as well ^^, currently market price is 500-700 per stick of 4Gb DDR-3 1333mhz, vry expensive, if u interested, PM me for best price ^^
Ya provide free computer installation as well ^^ terms and condition applied rclxms.gif

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post Oct 26 2010, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(oreoNmilk @ Oct 26 2010, 12:50 AM)
i email my SA already, she said that dell will take 1-2weeks to activate the service tag,
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yup, u are right...
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post Oct 26 2010, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Safar @ Oct 26 2010, 12:34 PM)
its 2.5" SSD same for M15x and M17x
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yup, you are right, is 2.5", try to get OCZ vertex II 250GB, superb performance
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post Oct 26 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 26 2010, 12:52 PM)
i thought the different is not noticeable till you benchmark it, like comparing i7-740QM and i7-840QM in real life?
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Well, im using Vertex II 120GB, before this, im using Intel 160GB X-25m, the differences is noticeable like booting up the system and launch program, install program, and etc

QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 26 2010, 12:52 PM)
yes you can.


i remove my 24 month McAfee and change it to Kaspersky on the first day of usage.

inb4 pro don't need antivirus crap.
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i didnt use any Anti virus on my laptop/desktop. those anti virus are crappy, waste money
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post Oct 26 2010, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 26 2010, 01:45 PM)
how many second is the different bro....? hmm.gif
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4-10 seconds, my macbook now boot up only needs 13 seconds included when i press the on button
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post Oct 26 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(MikeX @ Oct 26 2010, 05:38 PM)
Hi lee, do u use m11x too? Are the m11x owner always left the battery inside the notebook? Thanks. Sorry for so many questions.
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well, battery have thier discharge problem. i teach u how to prolong ur battery life

same applied to all Dell laptop

nowadays, most of the laptop come with automatic from DC to AC switch in the bios d, once ur battery is full, ur battery wont be charge anymore.
As for m11x, most of the time u gaming, pls plug in try not to use up ur battery.
If u are going out for mc donald and plan to serve net there, just use it. but when u are going back d, but u can finish use up ur battery? how? plug in ur ac adaptor even though u just used up 10%.
the more u use ur battery, the fastest the battery drain up. no metter how, plug in even u used 1% of ur battery.

For those concept u guys heard in the past, pls remove battery that u are using AC (nomore this concept)
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post Oct 28 2010, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(limjonyee @ Oct 28 2010, 07:18 AM)
hey, can give me the link? thanks...
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for me i rather save money and buy other stuff, since u have SSD d
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Oct 29 2010, 06:13 AM)
Anyone here with m11x has never had problem with the hinge? lol.
I'm sorta tempted to get a m11x over here in UK. Not that it's cheaper than in Malaysia but for mobility sake :/ (m15x isn't fun to be carried around)

But when I read about it, it's such a turn off and piece of crap considering how Dell is handling that issue - -
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me, mine dont have any problem yet untill now, not even other thing spoil. working charm ^^, M11x aalso not really portable, as it is too heavy(if wan postable, Sony Vaio Z) ^^
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QUOTE(Lil Kiasu @ Oct 31 2010, 10:59 AM)
if they can accept trade in with the current 260 in my lappie I think the cost would be less... I'm just hoping for the lowest price right now~ tongue.gif
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haha, i would like to have GTX460M as well ^^


Added on October 31, 2010, 12:45 pmjust realise that GTX460M is available in malaysia website d

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post Oct 31 2010, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Oct 31 2010, 02:02 PM)
yep bro. hope you can be the one the benchmark it first happy.gif
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this time i wont be the 1st 1 d, cause out of money d, cry.gif cry.gif , mother used all for new house cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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well, tmr i ask for u to see
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QUOTE(casperito @ Nov 1 2010, 04:58 PM)
demmit... is it my fault again? hehehehehe....

by the way, Mr. Docter, since there's 2 gcs in m17x rite, is it possible to run on one gc and make another one for physx?
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wao, wish to have it as well.... maybe MSI will come out with this, since only MSI have Big bang Fusion(Desktop MOBO) which can insert different GC in a same time
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i was wondering how the Alienware handle those 2 GTX480M SLi monster there, The Heat sink doesnt fit the M17x either.
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QUOTE(GreaseMonkey90 @ Nov 2 2010, 12:43 PM)
i doubt there will be an r3. probably a new model. the chassis wont fit 2 480ms not to mention the x58 board
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+1, Even for the sager with 2 big heat sink cant even cool down the system.
i doubt that R3 will be out with GTX480M, if they wanna fit the GTX480M on it, i think new Alienware model would be out. since the air ventilation for the M17x is too small for the GTX480M heat sink.
1 more thing, maybe GTX480M SLi which only available for X58 chipset.
to add on, For that spec, not all malaysian is affordable.

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QUOTE(riku2replica @ Nov 2 2010, 01:25 PM)
I've been waiting for this. brows.gif laugh.gif
Then G73JH will have a refresh after this, as well as AW M17x R3 to have Eyefinity supported?
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i think eyefinity is useless for a laptop to use on it, the perfomance of the laptop are not too strong, eyefinity will be laggggggg....

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