QUOTE(hackwire @ Sep 9 2010, 10:56 AM)
Why can't a person ask for 100% increase ? If a person took part time courses to upgrade skills , does it justify to get a mere increase?
Well if the candidate is worth so much and you cannot afford than why do you need to continue with the interview process??? If you don't trust them , the problem is "YOU" . No matter how many people you employ and they leave, It's the BOSS problem. I have seen many employess left the company not because of their attitude. It 's the BOSS and matter of time , their company is BRAIN DRAIN.
Can i ask you back, will you guaranteed the job first with 30 % increase from the asking pay if you want to see the pay slip. Dare to take the challenge??? Im sure many candidate don't mind showing their pay slip but this is part of the negotiation skill . I will hire candidate that have this mind set as i see him professional and know how to earn money for my company.
I can tell u can't be a good boss.
Dear hackwire,
Sure you can get 100% increase if your previous paid salary is below RM1k. But do you think it is possible to get 100% even you took a part time course but with no experience? I doubt so. I agree with what Vengeance have to say below.
QUOTE(Vengeance_Mad @ Sep 9 2010, 10:57 AM)
Do not forget that interview goes both way.
If either 1 party is not happy with another party's request, then any1 can call off the interview.
Now most(I'm not sure though) of the ppl here are working ppls, so obviously they will feel defensive.
But if it were me that was asked, I would also not provide my payslip.
If you don't trust me, or don't believe I was worth what I'm asking for then don't hire me.
Dear Vengeance, you are right about this.
QUOTE(Joey Christensen @ Sep 9 2010, 10:58 AM)
First things first. Everyone has a price. You have a price tag and I have one too. Let me ask you, would you work for free? If so, care to wash my car this weekend? Do you know what is deemed PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL? If such notion were not able being understood by you, why do I want to hire you? You do not know how to keep your bloody mouth shut when matters are viewed as private and confidential? Goodness gracious...I'm making bloody sure I won't be sharing my meals with you.
Always remember, salary is a judgment of value. How much is your value? It differs from one individual to another, right? I have experience in Human Resource Management and I received tonnes of employment documents during my tenure in HRM. One thing I would like to share here is, when you divulge your salary history, you put yourself in a corner that's very difficult to negotiate your way out of.
Once you have divulge your salary history, you give up your negotiating leverage. Would you want to lose your leverage? If the HRM personnel wants to verify if you have worked in the stated work place previously, by all means, make a courtesy call. It would be very much appreciated. It requires that you be polite and firm.
Always know how and when to draw a line for your self. Even if you were being pressured.
Regards, Joey
I am confuse on the first paragraph. Are you saying that my payslip is P&C and not suppose to show to my prospective employer?
Sorry ya...
I kinda agree with your 2nd and 3rd para though. But I thought we are required to fill in our past employment salary on the interview form?
QUOTE(hackwire @ Sep 9 2010, 11:00 AM)
i think u misunderstood that lazyserv was not the one said in the Quote, its dreamer101.
I am agreeing on lazyserv reply in red.
Added on September 9, 2010, 11:14 amQUOTE(hackwire @ Sep 9 2010, 11:06 AM)
Well Said... That's what im saying . It's not the matter of trust, honest, lie ...It's matter of principle, negotiation skill and respect.
The value and worth at present is what differentiate the candidate from the rest. Imagine sometimes good candidates invested heavily on their appearance and apparels , the gym workout invested, the mental preps etc to reach the higher status from the rest??? If the Bosses and HR just want to look for any Tom , d*** , harry than continue with this goal plan asking people the salary slip. be there and don't grow out .
But there are so many candidates interviewing for the same position. What is your chance of success if other candidates provide and you refuse to provide? Some point to ponder.
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