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gloomberg
post Sep 11 2010, 11:02 PM

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If we work on saturdays, should we be compensated with a higher amount as well? So assuming we work 20 days per month, and there are 4 saturdays, should they pay us (24/20 * market rate salary)? Assuming as well this is a fresh graduate position so there are no adjustments for experience.
gloomberg
post Sep 12 2010, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 12 2010, 01:31 AM)
gloomberg,

1)  Come on... There is NO SUCH THING as should or whatever.  You get paid according to whatever you can get the EMPLOYER agree to pay you at.  The CORRECT QUESTION is DO YOU KNOW how to negotiate for BETTER PAY??
2) Who say that just because you are FRESH GRAD = NO EXPERIENCE?? 

      A) It is all depends on how you SELL yourself and how do you show what you did is RELEVANT to your job??

      B) A smart fresh grad will prepare 1 to 2 years before graduation and start doing stuff to differentiate himself / herself from OTHERS.

There are 2 kinds of people in the world

A) People that LET things HAPPEN to them.

B) People that MAKE things happen.

Which kind are you??

Dreamer
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Nice piece of advise, real good one. Too bad that is not the kind of advise I'm seeking for. Can u see the question first?
Let me specify it once more, I'm just asking according to any sort of labour law out there that states that we should be getting more or any adjustments being made if we work on saturdays... =,=
The answer can be:
(a) Yes - If yes, how is it done
(b) No - means you just have to live with it

To be more specific again, it's a full-time job with a MNC. Not part-time.

*Sorry to offend u dreamer101, ur advise is one hell of an advise, but sometimes when people wants a digital camera, they don't really want a DSLR (maybe because they can't afford it or it's just not what they want. And sorry again if I posted this in the wrong section, please forgive this newbie here*
gloomberg
post Sep 12 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 12 2010, 08:38 PM)
gloomberg,

As a NEWBIE, LEARN how to ask question.

A) In your ORIGINAL POST, you say "SHOULD".  You did not ask what the law say.

B) You did not say

      i) You started with the job with no work on Saturday but later on adjusted to work on Saturday.

      ii) This is a job that you are applying that work on Saturday versus one that you are working on with no work on Saturday..

C) Law differ dependent on PAY LEVEL too. 

Dreamer

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Oh, so I assume that lowyat forum is a professional setting. Amusing. Good then.

My question is and will be, in the event a person(male/female) is about to accept a job(white collar) offer whereby the he/she is required to work on Saturdays, SHOULD/MUST there be any adjustments being made to his/her salary. Other benefits/perks are irrelevant as my question only pertains to the SALARY and only the SALARY only. SHOULD would refer to the willingness and ethics of the company that is paying the salary, while MUST refers to the law that requires company to actually make adjustments.

Pay Level is for fresh graduate who has little experience in field (<1 year experience) within the range of (RM2,500-RM3,000)

P.S. Any discrepancy in definitions here may not be accurate.
gloomberg
post Sep 13 2010, 09:56 AM

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Your great need for clarification certainly astounds me. The job requires us to work on Saturdays as regular working days, and I'm asking whether there would be adjustment because I was required to give an expected salary range. So if I THINK I would be properly priced at RM2,500, can I make an offer of adjustment at (24/20 * 2,500) = RM3,000? as I'm not sure what is the market value of this position.
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post Sep 13 2010, 10:41 AM

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ok! Got it boss!

This is a super duper huge MNC, So I would assume that the salary would be high... But they require you to write it on paper first, so does that mean I have LOST even without knowing it?

Offer has been made. I need some advise before going head to head and negotiate.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:49 AM

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Hmmm... There must be some way I can still negotiate... =(
Well, I'll just be frank with them then. I put an averagely low price because I'm afraid that I'll overprice. Oh well, hopefully I can still negotiate(being naive and optimistic).
Charge! If a pillow fight it takes, I will still fight till the end!
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post Sep 13 2010, 12:11 PM

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Ah, thanks for the advise! Never really thought of that. Greatly appreciate it. Thanks! =)
A real excellent way of negotiating.
gloomberg
post Sep 13 2010, 02:20 PM

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I'm not focusing on the pay... I just want to be paid accordingly... =)
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post Sep 13 2010, 02:36 PM

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yes, lazyserv... I'm still young with little experience. I'm only demanding for what I THINK I'm worth. Obviously I would think big big MNC has the capacity to pay us slightly higher, but not big big money. All I'm asking for is for the corp to pay me accordingly, and yea money is not the focus, but it is an important criteria. What I'm earning is not for myself also, but for the well-being of my family.
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post Sep 15 2010, 04:32 PM

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Ahhh... Dreamer... u're right, I lost the war without even knowing it... =( Hope to negotiate again this friday, to try to at least get an extra 200. =(
gloomberg
post Sep 15 2010, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 15 2010, 07:31 PM)
Folks,

Let me teach you one more thing.

Learn to say PLEASE and THANK YOU a lot more....

I had posted a few thousands posts across many years in lowyat.  Many posts were useful.  Only less than 10 people  thank me.  But, I get beat up a lot more for my BLUNTNESS and HONESTY. 

Now, if you want an answer why people are LESS HELPFUL every where and you have GOT an answer.  Why should they help?? If they do wrong, they got beat up.  If they do right, they get NO THANKS in 99.9% of the cases....

Dreamer
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Thank you!

Well, people doesn't want to listen or be defensive because sometimes, it's the TRUTH. And they can't accept it. It the "painful" truth that made them not wanting to even want to continue reading and directly comment without proper analyzing and thinking, prematurely judging what they THINK is right to them. The inability or fear to be out of their comfort zone is the most challenging task for them, because they wan't to continue to be in their, well, tempurung.
gloomberg
post Sep 16 2010, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 16 2010, 06:58 PM)
iamnewbie2012,

1)  If you are TOO LAZY to read previous posts in thread, DO NOT POST here.  Stay in Kopitiam

2)  If you want to be consistently underpaid, keep on doing what you are doing now..

Dreamer


Added on September 16, 2010, 7:01 pm

hackwire,

I DO NOT CARE about what is WRONG with OTHER PEOPLE.  That is THEIR PROBLEM.

I CARE about what I am doing.  Am I doing the RIGHT STUFF?? Am I doing what I can to make the world BETTER??

That is MY WAY to fight apathy....

Do what you can to make the world better.  The rest is up to God / Karma...

Dreamer
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Yea, we can be good, but other people would always be prejudiced against u... *hidden agenda*
But I never stop trying, that matters most to me.
gloomberg
post Sep 17 2010, 05:20 PM

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Well, I ask for an additional RM100, and it was granted! Since it is a big MNC, I they will not look good if they can't even grant a small amount.

 

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