How fast can your fingers move?

my apm only about 40-50 on average

Casual Gamer - 30-70+

Hardcore Gamer - 70-150 +

Pro Gamer - 150 -300+

so rate ur under which gamer lol !

that is not accurate, i've watched many replays, and noticed why my APM so low(50-60) while some players so high(100+), its not accurate to use that as judgement, cause those players who get 100+ they simply just click so many times, ie, i order my troops from my base to outside of enemy base, i issued only 1 command, and some players seriously click so many times, from his base entrance, right click every single step from his base to the enemy base. the APM is high, but its POINTLESS wasting your time in making serious judgement, spending too much time in action that give you no benefits at all, so APM isnt mean anything unless every action you do is meaningful.

APM doesn't justify everything. Lots of ppl spam click to increase their APM or so they say " warming up ". But i've seen quite alot of replays that the lower APM guy actually beats the higher 1. It might be a different case with korean pros though.

But if you can manage your timing and builds well, APM isn't such a big thing to fuss abt. But still, higher APM makes u look cool

I agreed that APM is not everything. Thus, I asked how fast your fingers can go. I didn't mention about APM = skills. Anyhow, APM is not everything but it is something that you need especially multitasking.

I end the game with around 70-100+ apm depending on my opponents and the situation with the game. If I harass a lot or being harassed a lot, then APM will be high. However, if you mainly just do macro without much micro, then I bet you won't get any higher APM. Try to divert your attacks, go in multiple places, do different stuff in your main, natural while attacking or defending. I'm sure your APM will not be like 1-50 or so.

Practise more and you should have around constant 100 if you are able to multitask better.

I realised I am stucked at average 70~80

play more. learn more. do more stuff. apm increase.
easy.

This post has been edited by ricardoizecson: Sep 8 2010, 08:33 AM

Make the right choice. Use less APM.

agree, Currently my apm is around 70 - 80 only... just use your command wisely... don't simply click here n there... base kena atk also need click 3 - 4 time =="

micro and macro = apm. if ur under 50 avg, then you're not going far.
avg good players at least got over 50 to well over 100. progamers as you can see are well over 100 and koreans are at least around 150-200++

sc2 apm count is a lot different than say, sc:bw, where spamming right clicks like a retard will not add to it LOL
of course, there are ways to abuse the counter (having a shit ton of grouped probes and spamming selection of them for example lol) but lets be honest here, why cheat the system? who are you convincing that you're not slow on apm? your opponent that you're about to lose to? lol.

=edit=
whoops typo on sc:bw

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Sep 8 2010, 09:43 AM

GSL day 2 this zerg have like 350apm for sc2...
if it was scbw he have like 500+ apm LOL...

but he didnt play that well LOL

i think its abit like jogging ... some ppl need to have a consistent rhythm .... need to keep on clicking so when there are more units he just continue the rhythm ...
my 2 sen saja

still doesnt changes the fact you need to be at a "minimum" level of apm. your macro requires actions, your micro also requires actions. nuff said.

how to check APM ar?

start a replay. press 'm'

This post has been edited by Sichiri: Sep 9 2010, 06:45 AM

I think the best scale is to make people do a series of actions that involved mouse and keyboard. we follow the same events and sequence for everyone and then we measure how long it take for people to finish this task. gaming are not just how fast we click. it depends how fast we think under pressure and our coordination.

This post has been edited by Fadly: Sep 8 2010, 10:38 AM

'm' OLOLOLOL

agree with that ... think when under pressure my APM suddenly drop hahahahahaha ... i dono wat to do by then ... probably clicking on floor only

oooh thanks!

i just finish watching my latest replay.
i think my average APM is 70.
let me watch another one.
that round lasted 22 minutes.
cannon rush turned into zerg containment match.



i watched another one. against terran.
cannon rush success gua since he lift up his base and cabut.
7 minutes 47 seconds
61 average APM.

This post has been edited by Deimos Tel`Arin: Sep 8 2010, 10:49 AM

try use a non-cheese build n see how much apm u can go
usually tat way is more accurate because your apm also consist of commanding armies n building them

Everyone can swing a hammer, but not all of those can build a house.

Average around 50 APM only and already played 700+ games now. How can I improve?

This post has been edited by flix: Sep 8 2010, 01:10 PM

bah, non-cheese builds gives me too much adrenaline.
my body cannot tahan.

cheesing is the way yo!


heck, some fights, i even told them upfront i am doing cannon rush and tell them to defend themselves.
most of the time i get my rear end handed to me when i do that but sometimes still win also.

why la u guys worry so much abt apm. as long as u macro/micro very well in the game. ull do very good. and ur apm will increase steadily as u learn more abt the game.

play more = learn more = do more stuffs = apm increases.

well apm are overrated...
u can see some pros have low average apm as they used the waypoints etc rather than pressing unneededly...
during battles u can see their current apm spike up to 300...

as u naturally get better in the game, ur apm would increase itself naturally...
rather than trying to force it...

I still dont understand how the hell they get 180 apm when they are having 9 food = ="

my average APM only 30-50 lol..

and said pros have over 100 apm as i've said.

*continues makan pisang*

Very easy, spam action keys only

This.

"APM is not a measurement of your hand speed, its a measurement of your mental capacity." -Day[9]

Day[9] Daily #132 - Back to the Basics: The Mental Checklist

300+ APM really spam for me...
I think around 200 or so should be enough for pro gaming...

For myself, i onyl doing around 30 apm lolzzz!
I think its sufficient, for my level, my friends were doing 100 plus minus but still i was able to beat him 1 on 1...
APM is not everything

isnt it m?

APM not so important , pls dont stress too much on apm. Strategy more important o,o , how ever it is VERY important at PRO level . Especially if u play SC BW in ICCUP then u noe , u need apm more then 100 to even survive thru low level D ranks . Anyhow i know many msians dont play Brood War cuz they say graphics sux , even my frens say so. But one thing they duno tat sc BW is so hard and meantime exciting play too.

This post has been edited by holyvin: Sep 10 2010, 05:20 PM

When i am casually playing my apm is 70-90. When I am at my best is 120-140. I use all the hotkeys on my shitty AVF keyboard

Those with low APM... not enuff balance between macro and micro

APM is the product, not the motive, of one's starcraft training/playing.

Apm 150-200, played since sc1

If u guys played wc, u may know this pro elf nicked APM70. He always maintain his apm at around 70 and yet he was among the best player in the world back then.

So AMP doesn't really matter... just click whenever it is necessary.

Ah... My APM exceeds 250+ during ground fights. Is that counter correct? I click so much? =.=

a lot of the apm meter also inflated one lar. i look at replays on youtube and stuff, you get players spam right clicking a simple move order. like instead of right clicking or a-moving once to a location, they'll just spam right click like no tomorrow as if doing that will make the troops march faster.

i mean, apm will definitely spike when in battles like when you're spamming micro or putting down force fields or focus firing and sh*t, but in between battles also 200 apm meh?

it's like 100 when I manage 3 ~4 of my zerg base..

50-60 normally. When I'm super focused I'm around 80.

I'm terrible in my macro game, heh.

nuff said

APM not important, effective move only important, i found out if i click too muchm sometimes will click wrongly hahaha