Science Energy, Principle of Energy
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 Sep 4 2010, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Sep 3 2010, 03:59 PM) those energy must be created from something right? for example, sun's energy is created from the nuclear fussion inside the sun. I guess you are asking for first cause... prior to big bang..... that is what CERN is doing now... maybe you can grab stephen hawking`s latest book   |
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Sep 12 2010, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(Shah_15 @ Sep 7 2010, 03:13 AM) thanks for all of your comments although some of it is too complex for me to understand however why energy cannot be created? can someone explain? create here does not mean take oil and create heat if I add sparkcreate here imply to generate or comeout with the energy from NOTHING at all... the moment of big bang... what we see, hear, experience, feel is what exist from the big bang. Energy existed long before that, we just harvest, change its form to what we want, merge its magnitude and sadly left it in useless state which many people say we run out of energy... which in realty, we left it in useless state. we burn petrol for car emission, left it in carbon monoxide which cant be harvested for anything usefull |
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Sep 13 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(KeNGZ @ Sep 13 2010, 01:15 AM) screwballX science way of logic exist no less than 5 century.. it is about a genius with his logical midset, predicts a natural phenomenon(hypothesis), set the boundaries/parameters/variables, run an experiment to test it, get the results, use math to compute the result and try to derive a relationship between the variables, inputs and outputs known as formulae .... okay, so show us the logic and 'nature science of logic's' way of explanation? QUOTE i gave up on fiction since I was in standard 2. science is what makes us logical, fiction is what motivate us to apply the science that we discover for betterstarted reading science since then. well if it's not the things mentioned by science, "science without religion is blind; religion without science is lame" Albert Einstein I do believe many scientist/engineer are motivated or inspired by science fiction QUOTE awakened_angel. okay, and ya this is real Okay lmao, good for emphasizing on the definite meaning of 'create', it makes things clearer and more understandable. you are welcome.... one english word has totally different meaning in various faculty QUOTE and,as I can recall, I've seen d equation E=mcc above? I'd just learnt today, that this equation actually represents the change in mass as a inevitable consequent of the change in energy, rather than change of mass causing the change in energy. the real cause of release of energy is in the transformation of the arrangement of the particles into a lower energy state, thus the excess energy is released, which is accompanied by loss in mass, that is calculated thru this equation This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Sep 13 2010, 10:57 PM |
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Sep 14 2010, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Sep 14 2010, 01:38 AM) is big bang the source, or is big bang the limit of our observation/calculation/equation? IMHO, from what I read & watch(astro551-555), the big bang that resulted us is creating this "VISIBLE" universe.. which is a giant sphere containing our universe.... as far as human can perceive(theoretically) which is 15 billion light years in diameterand there are millions of such universe out there............ somce scientise call it (parallel universe) or other dimensions....... This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Sep 14 2010, 01:40 AM |
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Sep 14 2010, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(lin00b @ Sep 14 2010, 04:03 AM) Energy/matter may well exist before big bang, but we cannot observe/calculate it. einstein aint live long enough to answer this.. hope hawking could finish the equationAdded on September 14, 2010, 2:26 pm QUOTE(Aurora @ Sep 14 2010, 02:57 AM) Yup, visible universe, as in the space we are living now. The visible universe that hold the energy. main stream science are like traditional people... they cant accept new ideas unless it is proven on the LAB.. not on papers... Parallel universes theory is rather pre-mature and still very shallow, too many assumptions. I like the idea, but I find it difficult to believe in.  P/S feel free to watch this link.... http://www.tom365.com/movie_2004/html/8489.html This post has been edited by Awakened_Angel: Sep 14 2010, 02:26 PM |
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