My GS is now 5.6k I follow the guide from the wow and elistist forum, my stat for self buff SP = 3.4k, Haste = 800+ with Bizuri, Crit = 32%. My dps at dummy with out other trinket/Elemental master/racial was 4.5k dps. I can sustain 5.5k dps using all CD in 5 min on dummy practicing.

In ICC with flask, raid and ICC buff, I can AOE 10-13k dps and 6~7k on non-mobile fight like 2nd and 4th boss, 1st boss is not all bad and gunship i'm doing ok compare with other classes. But in the plague wing boss fight I felt like carried by others, despite I use all my CD and tried very hard, my dps at end of fight only 4.8k... whats wrong? even a mage died halfway still do more overall dps than me...

Rot face... evade bomb / big slime / ooze floor... run to big ooze if got infection... I felt like I just runing around... shaman got no instant spell except shock and it's not spamable, so GG in this fight...

Felter gut... as range... wait for spore release run there... get debuff run back... standing there vomit... GG again

PP... wtf run to green, dps red, run for goo run for ooze floor, 3rd phase maraton run here run there WTF WTF WTF

Any pro tips from anyone played an ele shammy / or any class need to standstill and pew pew?? how you manange your dps?

Since dps is sh*t I was assigned to heal DW, since there is no guide for healing assignment - can any healer tell me what exactly you needed to do? coz once again the 3 healers assigned to heal DW has topped healing meters with 230~250k heals (shammy and pally) and my heal is only 100k...

Whats wrong with ele shaman on high end raid?

This post has been edited by Shopboy: Aug 30 2010, 04:42 PM

It would be better if you linked your armory because there could be many possibilities. Do you have any mana issues? or are you hit capped? All I know about shammys us that haste is very important to them. Even more important is knowing the fight coz then you will know where to stand so you won't need to move that much, up dps time.

I have an enhancement and resto shammy as an alternate. Never played Ele before. Anyways for resto, it is simple, aim at melee group and chain heal when you can stand still. Keep earth shield up on tank at ALL times. If you need to move, use riptide instead.

It would help if you have a 5 or 7 button mouse so you can bind keys to it, reaction time will be faster also.

Link your armory so the Ele shammy experts (not me) here can help you.

This post has been edited by Peterbigeyes: Aug 30 2010, 06:01 PM

Err not all boss is all about dps Ma.

U are doing correctly in those fight, far more better than someone do more damage than u but then keep on let ppl eat their volmit, create more big ooze and then lead to wipe.

Alot of fight is about holding back abit de

btw, when u say the Mage that die halfway do more dps than you, am sure you mean damage done rite? Dps is nothing, total damage done is what that matters

What you say is correct, the goal is to get boss down, but it's a PUG and everyone is looking at score card (i.e. dps meter), I'm sure if guild run it will be worst as every1 will remember your performance and you might not get another "hard to get" raid spot.

Long ago when I raid as disc priest ppl are asking me "why that pally heal so much more than you blah blah blah" I had to explain my heal is shield to migitate damage and pom heal doesn't count towards my heal (used to be now i believe they fixed it) blah blah blah. got fed up so I just spec holy and spam COH to top healing meters, when raid wipe / no one to save dps from that killing blow I was like I do my job but you didn't do yours. Today when raid wipe I still see ppl still blaming failed healer for unable to "top healing meters".

So yeah if lucky no wipe and you're fine, if wipe those at bottom of healing or dps meters will take the blame thats why I need to improve dps, it's also a goal to play the game.

Still hope to get some advice...

To Jas, I roll ele shaman is because can off heal daily to avoid the "jam" and able to need on unique mail caster gears, not in the mood to fight with huntard (lol i can still call them huntard until cata before I roll my smart hunter goblin) for gears.

Just FYI if you want an addon that will add Disc priest shields into the healing meters, try Skada

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/skada.aspx

This addon will add your shields to your heals so when your raid leader ask, you can spam him this and make him shut up.

BTW do you have quartz?
http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/...ils/quartz.aspx

This will show you how much earlier you need to cast to compensate for your latency. Many casters fail because of latency issues. You should download that and try it if you dun have it.

ele shaman heal?? are you joking??

the only time i see ele shaman heals are after pug wipes. most of the time they just wont stop doing dps and let another strength stacking hybrid do the job.

my main is an ele shaman who is only 5891 gs but have done 8/12 HM 25 cos long time retired adi. At 10% ICC (around the time i retired) i was doing 10-12k dps. A few tips:

1) The thing with ele shaman is u shouldn't time your CD. Use them whenever they are ready.
2) take risks. This is dangerous but do it when you know your healers are competent. The reason being ele shamans are like bunkers in starcraft 2. We do awesome dps... standing still. Example of taking risk is when (in normal mode) you continue dps even though the beast that spawns from Saurfang is biting ur ass.
3) make sure ur dot is always on the boss.
4) USE UR FIRE TOTEMS! Many ele shamans don't use the right fire totems at the right bosses. Find out what fire totems to use and when to use them.
5) use tunneling service. It makes a difference.
6) you said you "offheal" in jam situations? I'm guessing you keep an eye on the tank's health and pop a heal when they are low even while you're dps-ing? DON'T!!! Your job is to dps. DO YOUR JOB. Let the healers heal and if the tank dies they are responsible. Nobody is going to praise you for doing a 3k heal on the tank which is damn insignificant.

I'd comment on your gear choice and spec if you think you need help in that department. Ele shaman is very fun to play. Don't be discouraged because you have to play it right to get the right results.

P.S: pls don't heal in ele spec. You will give shamans a bad name

This post has been edited by B@rt: Sep 1 2010, 07:37 AM

I heal in ele gears but restore spec, done Heroic HoR as healer so I believes I'm doing fine... anyway ele gear I am stacking haste and a lil crit.. all i need just sub all the + hit gears out and I'm set.

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Added on September 1, 2010, 11:21 amBunker? more like siege tank...

I know fire totems deals more dps, fire elemental > nova > searing. but as a hybrid shouldn't we put out totem of wrath (+1xx SP and 3% more crit to raid)? but what you said is true as my objective is my personal dps I should just wtfwhocaresaboutothersdpser and put up fire elemental and nova totem for more pwnage.

About my gear choice I'm Stacking GS > SP > Haste > Crit.

Because of the GS stack I actually have to let go my 4 t9 bonus which is HUGE dps nerf but got raid is better than no raid so I just need to watch out.

This post has been edited by Shopboy: Sep 1 2010, 11:22 AM

stack Gee-eS only attending for check, swap those lesser use trinkets out for others, even blue ones during raid.

i use medallion of the horde and pvp gears to buff up Gee-eS to reach 5.6k, later swap blue haste stacking trinket and 2 t9 so i have enuf haste to proc t10 bonus and the more DS proc = the higher chance t9 procs

Blue in raid? more dps the higher GS gears? blasphemy...

Swap gears? no thanks because recount got this GS/DPS thingy and I dun wanna let other player notis my GS dropped below 5.6k...

i say... new generation of WoW players now so crazy about GS. As long as your dps is good nobody will buat bising. But if your gs is high and you do bad dps then ppl complain. I also work the system like suggested by instant noodle especially on my alt demo warlock. I put in an ilvl 245 hit trink when inspected to join as carrier for GDKP and then change it for my SP trink (Illustration of the Dragon Soul) when inside. Nobody complain about me or my GS cos i'd be in the top 5 dps. They will only complain when it is a wipe and they see you're holding them back.

This post has been edited by B@rt: Sep 1 2010, 02:52 PM

Yes pls, don't swap useless gear in just for GS. If you have high GS and your dps is bad, you'll look worse because they will know think that you have bad skills.

I dunno for Ele shammy but I'd say that almost all dps classes 4p is pretty useful especially in T10. Like my rogue's tier bonus is so good that I dun even want to break my 4p T10 264 pieces for 277 pieces, although there is more GS, it will still result in a dps lost. Take it from me, my GS is 6233 and I beat a fellow rogue with 6360 GS in almost all fights.

I think the biggest problem is your latency, spellcasters are really bad if you have bad latency because you will lose GCD just from latency itself. Please do download the addon Quartz that I linked. Once you have that addon, try casting something, once you see your cast pass the blue part of your cast bar and goes into the red part, you can immediately cast again, dun wait for the cast to end. Less GCD wasted = more dps done. You should try to aim for the haste cap because that reduces your GCD too.

This post has been edited by Peterbigeyes: Sep 1 2010, 04:25 PM

you're doing like most paladins these days with their tunnel vision thing: place red gems in each sockets in gear. it's a good thing to ignore tad bit of bonus but doing it too blindly would just make 1 lose 1 heap of dps, which is coming from meta gem.

now the question is: how much dps did you lose when you choose a higher numbered Gee-eS gear over your tier bonus?

about the blue trinket...
why not using it over badge trinket when 1 already overly maxing hit cap? it benefits 2pc t10 bonuses by giving a chance of lesser swing time?? i can acquire moderate and sustainable dps.