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Kizarh
post Oct 25 2011, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(zamx @ Oct 25 2011, 04:11 PM)
if i want the future proof cpu what cpu you suggest?i mean more core..
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Yep, that Phenom 2 X4 pretty much future proof for next 2-3 years, but if you want more core then just get Phenom X6 1100T


Added on October 25, 2011, 5:08 pm
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The current market will be heading towards multicore and single threaded performance is no longer relevant to the current standards. This is not to say that single threaded performance is not important, it does definitely contribute to a stronger multithreaded performance but what I mean is that having a single core is no longer feasible. I can imagine that SB with that die size at 32nm but instead of 4 cores they make into a single huge core will not perform as well as the current SB would in majority of tests. There is a diminishing return for more cores and there is also a diminishing return for increased core/architecture complexity.

Like I said before, BD is a server CPU where multithreaded applications are custom made to take full advantage of the hardware but it will definitely not be good for the normal consumers. It still falls short of being a good server CPU though as I think the 16C Interlagos will barely beat or similar to the 12C Magny Cours.


Too many thread will actually make the software slow too, to me 20(Intel just need 10 cores for this to work lolz) threads good enough for most multithreaded applications including servers, anything more than that is not necessary unless you're dealing with super Floating Point stuffs which better leave it to FPGA and GPUs.

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post Oct 25 2011, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Oct 25 2011, 05:17 PM)
As long as the software is able to make full use of the parallelization, you can have as many cores you want and cluster computing and HPC does just that with thousands of similar cores working in tandem. Most cluster computing will use GPU as a form of parallel compute but the K computer does not have any GPU and relies totally on the CPU power itself but the only reason GPU is being used is that the power required to achieve a higher GFLOPS is much more efficient than using CPU alone. The K computer is at the top currently but it's power consumption is quite bad compared to clusters based on CPU + GPU.
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And most of these HPC computers are built for Floating Point(simple) stuffs, and like I said b4, you still have to use CPU to do super complex job like single AI and simulations with too many thread will slow them lolz


Added on October 25, 2011, 5:37 pmFor eample, in a Corperation(company), you don't wanna hire labourer(they obviusly can do simpler job faster cuz they have bigger muscle but they don't train to do something than require some thinking) to do marketing that why we have trained marketing experts lolz

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post Nov 2 2011, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Nov 2 2011, 05:00 AM)
they're using LHe cooling, I actually more interested to know how they perform in LN2 lolz

QUOTE(shinjite @ Nov 2 2011, 02:35 PM)
I would say all hope is not lost, at least there is a competitor to Intel smile.gif
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ARM Based CPUs is much bigger treat to Intel than AMD

 

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