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Investment BUKIT JALIL CITY | AURORA PLACE | REV.O, Another megaproject starting very soon
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Feb 8 2011, 05:37 PM
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Who are the bosses behind magna?
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Feb 8 2011, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 7 2011, 04:56 PM) Already fully sold prior to the official launching (Oct 2010). Intermediate 958K (83 units), Zero-Lot bungalow 1.68 mil (24 units), this is the 1st time 1 ever heard non of the registrant get an unit, I rate this as the best property investment in 2010 in southern region of KL....as at today, registrants (more than 1000) are still making noise at the developer's office, they were asked to registered in early 2010 but no invitation make so far, no brochures, no specifications, no model house etc, but layout is nice, much much beter than Esplanad and Jalil Sutera Any jalan to get one unit? |
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Feb 8 2011, 10:06 PM
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Feb 9 2011, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 9 2011, 03:27 PM) Landed - Tmn Esplanad, Jalil Sutera, Bungalow Zone ABC more than 90%, condo - Arena green, Salvana, Greenfield, Green Avenue, Vista Komanwel, Jalil Damai estimate 70%, Flat <10% I though Jaya Jusco will be built at Jalil city?? Added on February 9, 2011, 3:37 pm Jaya Jusco property division has been sourcing Bkt Jalil land since 2008, reliable source shows that JJ is eyeing a piece of 22 acres land behind Jalil Sutera, this land is where the new LRT line's proposed station, I see the possibility that Prasarana is looking for free land cater for car park, if JJ acquisition/leasing is successful, then the Jalil station with 350 parking lots will be located in line with JJ car park, it is a win win situation for JJ and Prasarana, the same happen to the JJ Cheras Selatan car park, 1 station is proposed. since there are no proper supermarket in vicinity area, JJ shd position itself into this raw mkt, the buying power is double of Puchong Anyway if i have fat budget i would bet everything on Jalil City (provided Ho Hup is not the sole developer). Imagine with the new launches in BJ e.g Treez, KM1, Kiara residence, Jalil max and Z residence, this will increase the population by few thousand, coupled with the existing residents in BJ, OUG and Sri petaling, this will form the huge catchment area for Jalil City. Lai meng school, calvary church and bukit jalil park will draw outsiders coming to BJ 7 days a week. Also if the interchange to puncak jalil and kinrara is done, this will bring in another huge amount of visitors everyday! Magna link house is a good deal too... this is probably the last landed project in BJ (i heard there is a townhouse project next to low cost flat). The only problem is i DON'T HAVE THE $$$ |
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Feb 10 2011, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 10 2011, 12:58 AM) Sorry that i don't have the announcement for one jalil... but you can find the ad in iproperty below.... http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...99&lo=&wp=&ns=1 |
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Feb 10 2011, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 10 2011, 01:37 PM) Since BJ is the only 3 international zones gazetted alongwith U-Thant & Damansara heights in the country, today's charcoal will become tomolo's diamond What does international zones mean?Added on February 10, 2011, 4:21 pm QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 10 2011, 07:41 AM) I totally agree. 60 acres of Jalil City is even bigger than mid valley city (50 acres), Original master plan for Tesco and Carrefour I forgot to add the skilled workers working in TPM, may be a few hundreds to a thousand of them including those in astro...If the design of Jalil City is modern with chill out places, don't be surprise to see some DJs or beauty pageants hanging out there This post has been edited by Cocoon: Feb 10 2011, 04:21 PM |
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Feb 11 2011, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 11 2011, 08:56 AM) True, so it doesn't matter whether it is low density as most cars are from puchong. It is still better than those staying in Puchong, jam at their own area and jam again at BJ.... Is it confirm that jaya jusco and not tesco is taking over bukit jalil hypermarket ? More cars from Puchong is also good for commercial activities at Jalil City Added on February 11, 2011, 9:27 am QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 10 2011, 11:53 PM) Low density ? With so many high rise condos within a small area coming up, how can it be considered low density ? Low density is because most of the land in BJ is being used for Stadiums, 2 parks, 1 golf course and tpm (low rise IT buildings). The remaining land for development is relatively small even though you may see many high rise condos there...If all double storey house, then it is low dense lah. Even now, during peak hours, it is bumper to bumper car, i cannot imagine when the condos are completed and lrt is completed the traffic situation will be nightmare ! This post has been edited by Cocoon: Feb 11 2011, 09:27 AM |
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Feb 12 2011, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(hakon @ Feb 11 2011, 10:59 PM) Added on February 12, 2011, 2:30 amHo Hup targets 3Q to complete revamp KUALA LUMPUR: Beleaguered Ho Hup Construction Company Bhd aims to complete its restructuring exercise by the third quarter (3Q), according to its board. This is notwithstanding the outcome of its dispute with Malton Bhd concerning the joint development agreement (JDA) of a 60-acre (24 hectares) plot in Bukit Jalil, which is Ho Hup's crown jewel. At its EGM on Thursday, Feb 10, the board declined comment on speculation that Ho Hup is negotiating with Malton to alter the terms of the JDA and may reach an out of court settlement. To recap, Ho Hup filed a suit in April 2010 seeking the court to declare that the JDA entered into between its 70%-owned subsidiary Bukit Jalil Development Sdn Bhd (BJD) and Pioneer Heaven Sdn Bhd (PHSB), a unit of Malton, is void. It was reported that the board was unhappy with the terms of the JDA, which was approved by the previous board. Under the agreement, PHSB would be the project's sole financier and BJD would be entitled to a 17% share of the project's gross development value (GDV) or a minimum of RM265 million. The freehold land would be developed into a mixed and commercial development. "The value of this land (60 acres in Bukit Jalil), even through outright sale, is considerably higher than the debts of the group," said Ho Hup executive director Derek Wong. "The board has not taken any decisions (should there be an outcome from the court), although we may plan to dispose or develop the land, or enter into an alliance with more favourable terms." Speaking to the press after the EGM, Wong said Ho Hup's restructuring exercise would include the acquisition of new assets from its white knight investor as well as a corporate exercise. He added that the company still needs to carry out capital reduction as part of the restructuring, although the timing and amount have yet to be finalised. "Following this, Ho Hup will focus on property development, as well as growing the existing ready-mix concrete business and niche construction works for which we still have the in-house expertise," he said. "Going forward, we would like property development to contribute more than 50% of revenue." Last November, Ho Hup, a Practice Note 17 (PN17) company, announced the emergence of a white knight investor in Plenitude Frontier Sdn Bhd, of which Raymond Tan is a majority shareholder. Tan is an independent non-executive director of IJM Land Bhd and PanGlobal Bhd as well as CEO of Capital Land Sdn Bhd. In what could be seen as a reverse takeover, Ho Hup proposed to acquire from Plenitude Frontier two property development firms — Fivestar Development (Puchong) Sdn Bhd and Kolektra Recreation Sdn Bhd — for a total of RM46.8 million via the issuance of new shares, which translate into about a 31.45% stake in the enlarged share capital of Ho Hup. Fivestar and Kolektra own landbanks in Puchong. "The exercise will benefit both parties as we would be able to leverage on Tan's experience while strengthening Ho Hup's balance sheet," said Ho Hup's CFO Ivan Oh. Shareholders at the EGM approved the disposal by BJD of a 3.32-acre site in Bukit Jalil to Bayu Melati Sdn Bhd for RM9.55 million. There are currently no activities in Ho Hup's construction and property divisions, except for its ready-mix concrete business that is still operational. According to Wong, the company plans to expand its pre-mix business in the long term, with plans to erect new plants in addition to its three plants in Meru, Bukit Jalil and Terengganu. He added that the company was in the midst of seeking a three-month extension from Bursa Malaysia Securities for its PN17 regularisation plan to May 4, 2011. Ho Hup closed 3.5 sen lower at 53.5 sen on Thursday, with 275,000 shares traded. Added on February 12, 2011, 11:35 amAnyone has the latest information on jalil city? Is Malton in or out? When is the expected launched date? Any change to the design or masterplan? Thanks in advance! This post has been edited by Cocoon: Feb 12 2011, 11:35 AM |
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Feb 12 2011, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(hakon @ Feb 12 2011, 01:47 PM) for all the talk about the lrt station and the link road from esplanad... anyone know the chances that such plans may change? Work has been started for lrt expansion (clearing land behind esplanad and soil test at bukit oug). The timing of opening the link road is a question mark... ufo-et - sorry - not sure what you mean by rrim... can elaborate? RRIM - Rubber Research Institute of Malaysia at sungai buloh |
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Feb 13 2011, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 13 2011, 04:09 PM) I went to JJ cheras but didn't see any LRT next to it. It is possible that the car park for LRT station is shared with JJ. So the station is either inside JJ or next to JJ lor ... Nobody here can explain in a simple and clear manner ? But it is also possible that JJ is going to be located at Jalil City and not next to awan besar LRT station.. |
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Feb 14 2011, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 13 2011, 11:00 PM) UFO-et said he has inside info that it will be build next to LRT and not inside jalil city. What i am trying to say is there are 3 possibilitiesThen it is not considered Ho Hup land. 1) JJ located next to proposed awan besar LRT (not ho hup land) 2) JJ located in Jalil city (ho hup land) 3) NO JJ at all in Bkt Jalil Regardless the exact location of JJ, so long it is located in Bkt Jalil, the overall property prices in this area will shoot up at least 10%! |
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Feb 14 2011, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(22222222 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:00 AM) Impact assessment on BJ property price (just my guestimate!)JJ + Jalil City - 10 to 20% on overall property prices, oug and sri petaling will increase too! LRT - 5-10% (BJ already has LRT stations at stadium + sri petaling station) More possitive impact for those condos located close to the proposed LRT (bkt OUG, Kiara, Z + Max). OUG folks will benefit too Lai Meng School - 10- 15% on One jalil link house, lesser impact on others. One jalil link house is like a SURE ticket to enrol into Lai Meng School. Calvary church - 10% impact on Jalil City commercial units (Damansara Heights folks spending $$ at Jalil City after prayers BKT Jalil to Puncak Jalil interchange - 10% on Jalil City commercial units. But will jam up the entire bkt jalil |
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Feb 14 2011, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(jalsrix @ Feb 14 2011, 12:33 PM) You think a lot of people in bukit jalil and surrounding areas are christians ? Haha Jalsrix you are soooooo funny ..To answer your questions one at a time: You think a lot of people in bukit jalil and surrounding areas are christians ? I don't know how many of the residents of BJ is christian. i don' think the statistic will have an impact on property demand and pricing in BJ. Why daman heights which is so far away. Calvary is possibly one of the richest churches in Malaysia with HQ at Damansara Heights. There are many Tan Sri, Dato, public listed companies directors attending the chapel services there. With the new church + conventional center being built at BJ, these ppl may travel to BJ and with high likelihood that they will shop or chill out after the services in BJ. i hope this will help you.. |
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Feb 15 2011, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(hakon @ Feb 15 2011, 04:26 PM) i went to the ho hup office and spoke to some of the ho hup people... according to them, they hope to launch jalil city next year... the soft launch last year is considered as cancelled... Sources from HH - Relaunching will be in june this year. But i agree with you, HH is in the mess, no way they can launch it this year. Those who signed the SPA (i think is about 6 ppl) may get the same price in SPA for the relaunch. Those who paid booking fees (some already paid up to 10% but choose not to sign the spa) will have the priority to buy the shops during the relaunch but the pricing will be adjusted upwards....also, they are quite sure that jj will be in jalil city and not in the lrt station side... there was even a guy there who they pointed to me and said was part of the design team for jj... also, i was told that the link road into bukit oug from esplanad is not 'sure build' yet... the problem is there may not be enough land to build (depending on the alignment of the lrt line)... lastly, lai meng is confirmed on... Ho Hup planned to lease phase 1 of jalil city to JJ. But JJ may not want to wait for HH because the tussel in HH may drag on. If JJ is presented with another feasible land within BJ, JJ may take rather than wait for HH! Lai meng school is on for sure. My friend has seen the design of the school. pretty impressive. Magna already fenced up the One Jalil site, not sure when the SPA will be signed. |
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QUOTE(naleh33 @ Feb 17 2011, 08:32 AM) Now there are 2 conflicting sources regarding the JJ location. But I think the existence of JJ in Jalil City or LRT will be added bonus to that area. The most concerning is the access road from jln 1/155B to Bukit OUG area. Agreed! so long JJ comes to BJ (regardless the exact location), the property price shoud go up up!It will be weird if the road will not be cleared up till Bukit OUG area and left around 50 metres of trees blocking the Bukit OUG and the LRT station. Anyway investment itself comes with certain degree of risk. it is hard to say about the access road. There are precedents that the road won't open up and left with 50meters e.g jalan 1/155B from BJ to OUG, took them years to open it even though it is completed long long time ago... |
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 4 2011, 10:13 PM) No idealah, all the gomen projects lack of transparency, at least we saw something is on now, so far when hoarding is up and work started, they will deliver it. This excess too crucial for Bkt OUG residents i saw the LRT plan from a reliable source. The road will be connected from 1/155 to LRT station then to Bukit oug condo. Confirmed! Jam is expected I forsee an increase of demand in this area due to the LRT construction works, the next 3 years will be terrible nightmare for Puchong residents, new house buyers are likely to avoid those jam areas, Sri Petaling / Bkt Jalil will benefit fr this diversion But i dun see JJ in the plan..... |
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Clearer skies ahead for Ho Hup
Tags: BJD , Bukit Jalil , Companies Act 1965 , Court of Appeal , Derek Wong , Extreme System Sdn Bhd , High Court , Ho Hup Construction Co Bhd , Kolektra Recreation Sdn Bhd , Kuala Lumpur City Hall , Low Chee , Low Chee & Sons Sdn Bhd , Low Tuck Choy , Malton Bhd , National Sports Complex , Petronas Twin Towers , Pleasant Haven Sdn Bhd , Plenitude Frontier Sdn Bhd , Puchong , Raymond Tan , Seri Kembangan , UEM , United Engineers (M) Bhd , Vincent Lye PDF Print By Max Koh of theedgeproperty.com Monday, 20 June 2011 12:10 Bookmark and Share KUALA LUMPUR: The walls of Ho Hup Construction Co Bhd's head office in Bukit Jalil are adorned with photos of its previous projects, including landmarks like the Petronas Twin Towers, the National Sports Complex and the Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Founded in 1960 by the late Low Chee, in the 1990s Ho Hup was one of the country's most prominent construction firms, probably due to United Engineers (M) Bhd (UEM) being among its substantial shareholders. But those were the glory days. Today, Ho Hup, a Practice Note 17 (PN17) company, is a pale shadow of its former self. Still, there is a sense of optimism. After protracted boardroom and courtroom battles, Ho Hup may soon chart its own course to regain some glory. But this time, property development will be its core activity. A PN17 company is a financially distressed listed company or one that does not have a core business or has failed to meet minimum capital or equity (not less than 25% of the paid up capital). It must submit a regularisation plan to Bursa Malaysia. On June 7, Ho Hup won a courtroom battle with Malton Bhd for the ownership of its 60-acre (24.3ha) plot of land in Bukit Jalil, although the work is still far from over. The High Court ruled in favour of Ho Hup when it declared null and void the joint development agreement (JDA) signed between Ho Hup's 70% owned unit Bukit Jalil Development Sdn Bhd (BJD) and Pleasant Haven Sdn Bhd, controlled by Malton, to co-develop the tract. The court ruled that the previous board of directors, led by substantial shareholder Datuk Vincent Lye, had acted in breach of their duties to Ho Hup by signing the agreement just before Lye was ousted in an EGM. "The High Court also found that Pleasant Haven had knowingly assisted in these breaches. Significantly, the High Court found that the JDA was, in substance, a disposal of BJD's 60-acre landbank and as such required the approval of shareholders under Section 132C of the Companies Act 1965. "As no such approval was obtained, the JDA and other associated instruments were null and void for contravening the law," said Ho Hup in an announcement to Bursa Malaysia. Although Pioneer Haven has a wildcard in a form of an appeal to the Court of Appeal, spirits are already up on Ho Hup's side. "It has been a long legal battle. We have gone against formidable opponents such as Malton and the previous board of directors. The decision of the High Court has been positive for Ho Hup and we have plans to lift [the company] from its PN17 status," executive director Derek Wong told The Edge Financial Daily. Ho Hup's share price shot up nearly 15% to a 15-month high of 86 sen on the day after the court ruled in favour of the company, but it then retreated from the peak. The stock closed at 82 sen last Friday. The 60-acre piece of freehold land is Ho Hup's crown jewel and it is the only trump card left in hand to get out of PN17 status. The company previously owned 87 acres in Bukit Jalil but some of it was divested to ease its tight cash flow. The master plan for the 60-acre tract of prime land includes the development of shophouses, a shopping mall, apartments and high-rise office towers. "The land is very strategic and has been designated as 100% commercial by Kuala Lumpur City Hall. This land is intended to be a commercial hub and catchment area for Puchong, Seri Kembangan, and Bukit Jalil. That is why it is the source of the tussle," said Wong. Wong said Ho Hup is planning to launch the project by 4Q, and the development will be spread out over the next 10 years. The land had a net book value of RM122.46 million, carried at a relatively low price of RM47 psf. Wong added that the land has an approved nine million sq ft of net sellable area, with market prices of RM500 to RM600 psf. He said Ho Hup would mainly develop the tract on its own, but he would not rule out the possibility of joint venture with others as well. Assuming a profit margin of 20%, analysts said this could translate to profit of RM800 million to RM900 million, much higher than the RM265 million Ho Hup would be entitled to under the JDA. But will Ho Hup, which has been categorised as a PN17 company since July 2008, have the financial resources to kick start the massive development? Ho Hup was loss making in FY10 ended Dec 31, incurring a net loss of RM13.6 million on revenue of RM65.1 million. It returned to the black for 1QFY11 ended March 31 with a net profit of RM32,000 and revenue amounting to RM6.7 million. Wong said Ho Hup is currently talking to a few financial institutions. "We believe we will have the financial muscle after the regularisation plan is completed. Apart from that, we are currently engaging a valuer but the land should be worth at least RM300 million. By pledging one of the parcels of the land to the bank, it should be enough to finance the first phase of the development," he said. The regularisation scheme that will see the entry of a new shareholder will play a crucial role in reviving Ho Hup, he added. Ho Hup tweaks regularisation plan Having regained the sole ownership of the Bukit Jalil land, Ho Hup is tweaking its regularisation plan. "Since we have managed to wrest the land back to Ho Hup, we need to tweak the details [of the regularisation plan]," said Wong. Ho Hup made the requisite announcement of its regularisation plan in March, which involves a proposed par value reduction of 50 sen, proposed rights issue and private placement with warrants, a creditors scheme and the acquisition of two property development companies from Plenitude Frontier Sdn Bhd. "The creditors scheme under the first proposed regularisation was based on the scenario that we lost the court case. Now that we have won, we have to make adjustments to the plan as the improved cash flows will definitely help us to repay all our creditors. We aspire to wipe out all our debts in the next two years," said Wong. He said Ho Hup has about RM140 million of debt owed to external parties, which includes creditors from 10 to 20 years ago. The company's par value reduction exercise is proposed to pare down RM51 million to wipe out its accumulated losses of RM134.9 million as at Dec 31, 2010. The rights issue and private share placement, which both come with free warrants, are expected to raise RM30.6 million, of which RM28.1 million will be used for its new development projects. The critical part of the restructuring plan is the entrance of a new shareholder, Raymond Tan, a familiar name in the property development industry. Tan is perceived to be the white knight injecting two property companies into Ho Hup in return for a 29.44% stake, becoming the single largest shareholder. Ho Hup has proposed to acquire Fivestar Development (Puchong) Sdn Bhd and Kolektra Recreation Sdn Bhd for RM43.8 million from Plenitude, to be satisfied with the issuance of 93.6 million new Ho Hup shares. According to Ho Hup, Fivestar currently has a few projects in Puchong with a gross development value of at least RM40.5 million, while Kolektra is awaiting letter of award to develop 4.26 acres (1.7ha) in Puchong. Ho Hup is proposing that Tan become the company's executive director after the acquisition. "We are excited to have him come aboard as his experience in property development will definitely help Ho Hup to develop the 60-acre piece of land [in Bukit Jalil]. In addition, the ongoing projects under Fivestar and Kolektra will contribute positively to Ho Hup's bottom line and cash flow," said Wong. Some quarters said having Plenitude in the picture might help to resolve any differences between the other two substantial shareholders — Extreme System Sdn Bhd and Low Chee & Sons Sdn Bhd — when it comes to decision-making. But before it can reach that stage, Ho Hup must obtain the current shareholders' consent to execute the regularisation plan. The current shareholding structure raises concerns that the dispute between Extreme System and Low Chee & Sons may hinder Ho Hup's regularisation plan. As at May 5, Extreme System holds 27.95% equity interest in Ho Hup and Low Chee & Sons 21.92%. Datuk Low Tuck Choy, one of the owners of Low Chee & Sons, holds a direct stake of 2.56%. Extreme System is the investment vehicle of Datuk Vincent Lye which surfaced as substantial shareholder and took control of Ho Hup in July 2008. Lye was the deputy chairman before he was ousted last year. To recap, two years ago Low opposed Lye's proposed restructuring scheme, which involved a steep capital reduction and the two have been at outs since then. "We are in talks with all shareholders, including Extreme System, as we do not want to be biased in our decisions. We are ultimately doing it for the benefit of all Ho Hup shareholders. At this point in time, I am happy to say that we have the support of most shareholders," said Wong. The par value reduction would require approval from 75% of Ho Hup's shareholders, while the other proposals under the regularisation plan only need 51% approval. "In any case, the other proposals are not conditional on whether the par value reduction proposal goes through," said Wong. TheEdgeProperty.com welcomes your views. Please login or register as a new member to post your comments. Registration is FREE Added on June 21, 2011, 7:36 amHigh Court dismisses Pioneer Haven’s bid in Ho Hup suit Written by Joseph Chin of theedgemalaysia.com Monday, 20 June 2011 13:43 KUALA LUMPUR: The Kuala Lumpur High Court has dismissed Pioneer Haven Sdn Bhd’s application for a stay of execution over the judgement on a 60-acre (24.3 ha) plot of land in Bukit Jalil, with costs in favour of Ho Hup CONSTRUCTION [] Bhd. Ho Hup said on Monday, June 20 that the court had made the ruling on Friday, June 17 after hearing arguments by lawyers for both Pioneer Haven (which is a unit of MALTON BHD []) and Ho Hup. It said the High Court also set several conditions, pending the disposal of the appeal by Pioneer Haven to the Court of Appeal. The High Court had agreed to the conditions proposed by Ho Hup, wherein it would not to sell nor dispose of the land. Ho Hup had also proposed it would not enter into any joint venture for the development of the land but may self-develop the land. The court also said Pioneer Haven’s private caveat on the land shall be removed (as already ordered on June 7), and Ho Hup group may redeem the charge in favour of CIMB and charge the land in favour of the new financier. To recap, on June 7, the High Court had delivered its judgment and declared the joint development agreement dated March 16, 2010 (JDA) between Pioneer Haven and Ho Hup’s 70%-owned Bukit Jalil Development Sdn Bhd to be null and void. The court also found that the JDA was, in substance, a disposal of Bukit Jalil’s 60-acres land at Bukit Jalil for which shareholders’ approvals had not been obtained pursuant to Section 132C of the Companies Act 1965. The High Court also ordered that the private caveat by Pioneer Haven be expunged and/or removed. However, on June 10 Pioneer Haven sought for a stay of execution of the judgment. Ho Hup had confirmed that the Ho Hup group was in the process of refinancing the existing loan facilities given to Ho Hup group by CIMB Bank Bhd and redeem the charge in favour of CIMB over the land for the purpose of charging the Land as security to the new financier; Ho Hup had also said it would ill not sell or dispose of the land, or to enter into any joint venture with third parties for the development of the land; instead, Ho Hup group would develop the land on its own. This post has been edited by Cocoon: Jun 21 2011, 07:36 AM |
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