But they identify themselves as Chinese first and foremost. Malaysia on the other hand, anyone converting into Islam, mamaks or immigrants and whatnots will jump on the bumiputera bandwagon immediately... like our dear friend Ridhuan Tee...zzzzzzzzzz

But they identify themselves as Chinese first and foremost. Malaysia on the other hand, anyone converting into Islam, mamaks or immigrants and whatnots will jump on the bumiputera bandwagon immediately... like our dear friend Ridhuan Tee...zzzzzzzzzz

Most Han Chinese are clever and nice people,  but this Han "ayamkambing" is stupid. We Mongols will exterminate such vermin if it is 800 years ago.

Another theory says that Malays originate from Taiwan under the "Taiwan-down-the-Philippines" theory.

Sumerians? I don't think so.. no academic discussions thus far that have suggested Sumeria as a geographic origin of the Malays. Perhaps you confused between SUMERIA and SUMATRA!! Plenty of connections between Malays and SUMATRA ... but SUMERIA ... ah ah ... I better check the Code of Hammurabi to ascertain that!!

It has been well accepted that Malays originate from somewhere in China. The traditional Malay migration theory says that Malays originate from Yunnan which is now a part of modern China. Even the Yunnan theory has two versions: Yunnan-down-the Malay Peninsula theory and Yunnan-down the-Mekong theory. Another theory says that Malays originate from Taiwan under the "Taiwan-down-the-Philippines" theory.

According to the Yunnan-down-the Malay Peninsula theory, early Malays, also called Proto Malays ('Proto' means 'First') arrived in Peninsular Malaysia between 35,000 t0 10,000 years ago during the Mesolithic Age. When they arrived the Negritoes were already living in Peninsular Malaysia. The Proto Malays pushed the Negritoes into hills and mountains in the interior. The Negritoes were thought to come to Peninsular Malaysia from Africa under the "Out of Africa " theory between 60,000 to 35,000 years ago. The Negritoes also reach the Philippines. A second wave of Malays, called Deutero Malays ('Deutero' means 'second') arrived in Peninsular Malaysia between 10,000 to 5,000 years ago. The Deutero Malays later spread from Malay Peninsular to the Malay Archipelago (Indonesia, Philippines, East Timor, Brunei) and the Pacific.

Today the Deutero Malays have evolved racially into modern Malays that make up the majority populations of Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei, Timor Leste, Philippines and Malagasy. Modern Malays of Southeast Asia have also intermarried in recent times with Arabs, Indian, Chinese, Spanish, other Europeans, etc.

The Negritoes have evolved into the Semang Orang Asli group of Peninsular Malaysia. The Semang is further divided ethnically into the Kintak, Kensiu, Lanoh, Jahai, Mandriq and Batiq tribes who are found mostly in northern Peninsular Malaysia states like Kedah and Perak. In Philippines, the Negritoes brecome the Aeta tribe. The Proto Malays of Peninsular Malaysia have evolved into the Orang Asli tribes of Temuan, Semelai, Jakun, Kanaq, Kuala, Seletar, Temiar, Semai, Semoq Beri, Jahut, Mah Meri and Che Wong.

Another Yunnan Malay migration theory stipulates that the Malays, both Proto and Deutero, migrated from Yunnan down the mighty Mekong River to Southeast Asia and elsewhere. Some of them settled in Indo-China to build up empires that include Funan and Chanpa. From Indo-China, they sailed to Peninsular Malaysia and elsewhere into Southeast Asia and the Pacific.

Whatever routes from Yunnan that they took, Malays later evolved into two major groups: Malayo and Polynesians. The 'Malayo' group is basically racially Malay that today comprises Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Timor Leste, Brunei and Malagasy. Those that reach the Pacific islands become Polynesians .. but today they are both still called Malayo-Polynesians.

Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Asli
http://asiarecipe.com/phihistory.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Malaysia
http://www.sabrizain.demon.co.uk/malaya/malays.htm

Aren't you being racist here, Mr Racist?

prove you're a mongol, dupe.

FYI
there're up to 2% of the total population in China are Muslims

chinese population most current at: 1.3 billion, 2% of 1,321,000,000 = 26,420,000

almost the whole population of malaysia 27,730,000 (include chinese, indian dan lain-lain)

in conclusion china has more muslim than malaysia

kthxbai

No need to prove to the like of you. Loser. GTFO from my thread.

Here's one Mongol proverb for you, grass eater:

Makh erchuuded zoriulagdsan,Ovs amitadad zoriulagdsan
Now go and translate that.

Googling and copying-pasting from the internet don't make you a mongol.

Why are you even here anyway? Your main account got permabanned here izzit? 

Here, how about this:
Nutag nutgiin zan oor, nug nugyn uvs oor.

But they identify themselves as Chinese first and foremost. Malaysia on the other hand, anyone converting into Islam, mamaks or immigrants and whatnots will jump on the bumiputera bandwagon immediately... like our dear friend Ridhuan Tee...zzzzzzzzzz

kenmirzz - you are a Mongolian right? Would you like our local delicacy called C4?

Dumb stupid, you guys murdered innocent human and brag that in front of my face?

at least we don't use AK-47... 

Customs of every country are different, grass of every meadow are different.
There is no need to prove. We are what we are. 

Dumb stupid, you guys murdered innocent human and brag that in front of my face?

Malay boy, either you post something useful here or GTFO.

NO RACIST REMARK PLEASE!!!

that lady wasn't innocent. she's horny slut and blackmailed najib for money and refuse to back down.
serves her right for being involved with gangsters like najib

Buruga kailaasan ereg deeree- burgas khalisan(uerlesen) ereg deer
Buragas modoin naikhana- burgas modon naigana
Buragas modoin naikhakhin uchir- burgas modon naigakhad
Buyamjtaigaa eejee mein sanagadna- buyantai eejee minii sanagdana
Translate please. 

Threads or posts pertaining to racial, religious or political issues are strictly prohibited in Kopitiam and its subforums.

Your opinion doesn't entitled cancellation of a person's life. Shame on you, no conscience at all.

One reason why islam is growing in china is that they allowed a central government body to regulate their sermons.
Just like in malaysia where Shafie sect is the official and all sermons are controlled by the ruling government, what can be preached, what cannot be preached.

Other religions like Christianity however, do not succumb to such central governance, at least not from china government. Hence alot of churches are underground.

if you support Hui people then you will support the ethnic cleansing of Tibet by Chinese govermnent, because Hui Muslims are persecuted in Tibet.

still don't prove a shit.

This thread is about Islam in china, hence RELIGIOUS thread.

reporting you to the mods.

have you been to china lately .. erm or in the 50s?
the population of Christian in China was over 14 million by the survey in year 2000.

latest CIA World Factbook indicates up to 4 % of China populations are Christians, 1 fold of the Muslim.

i went a few chruches when i was in Shanghai... Holy Trinity Church... all i can say is... great experiences, even bigger than the St. Paul in London where the late Princess Diana married in.

have you been to china lately .. erm or in the 50s?
the population of Christian in China was over 14 million by the survey in year 2000.

latest CIA World Factbook indicates up to 4 % of China populations are Christians, 1 fold of the Muslim.

i went a few chruches when i was in Shanghai... Holy Trinity Church... all i can say is... great experiences, even bigger than the St. Paul in London where the late Princess Diana married in.

I personally support the independence of Tibet, XinJiang and Inner Mongolia( to annex with Republic of Mongolia).
You are the shit, stalker.
There is no religious sentiment here, dumb brain.

still can't prove anything dupe?

yes, this thread is about religious sentiments. Reported to mods

lurk more.

i love Hui people, i went there they treat me with nice jiken soup with ginseng..cool...

Debbie, 不要管那骗子叫 Ayamkambing. 他是有心理问题。

享受享受这些回族歌吧。

我是不想让在读的小朋友们还误以为他说的头头是道啦。。。 我的回轰可显得他很笨吧，哈哈！也好让大家笑笑！

which area usually have huge hui population?

I, as an outsider, do encounter Chinese on daily basis. Some of them do not know about their brethren in China of Hui Muslim descent. I am here to educate the Han Chinese that there are many Muslim Chinese in China, and they speak better Mandarin, practice Chinese culture, except that there are Muslims.

The logic, since the Chinese Muslims in China and the Malaysian Chinese are brethren of the same origin, coupled with the fact that the Malays and Chinese share similar genetic make up( haplogroup mtDNA O), we can summarize that MALAYS AND CHINESE  are brothers. Hug each other, human friends.

But Malaysian Chinese doesn't know about this. Sad.

lol, note that if you read that you wouldn't have said this?

restriction on religions are for all religions not just christianity

again, it was 4% of popularity of chritian compare to 2% muslim in china

我原本也以为他是有知识的人，但是没想到她只喜欢胡说。

Ops sorry, no Mandarin. Here is one more from China, the Hui Muslim delicacy:

Destroy racist human lol. Gotta compare gotta compare

Nonsense one is you.

Why should you even bother about chinese? you're not even a chinese.

As mentioned, there were many persecutions from the government.

It grew due to the underground movements inspite of persecutions. Get it?

Ts... you too free already ah = =?

he was never and will never be a Bumiputera la. Pergh...

in malaysia "The non-Malay thought that is when a non-Malay embraces Islam, he is said to masuk Melayu, or become a Malay, due to the ethnoreligious identity of the Malay-Muslim[citation needed]. That person is automatically assumed to be fluent in the Malay language and to be living like a Malay as a result of his close association with the Malays."[3] Hari Singh similarly observes that "[to] convert to Islam" means "assuming [a] Malay identity (masuk Melayu). In essence, it requires the non-Malay to renounce his cultural heritage and adopt Malay ways and customs."[4]\"

and he/she will get bumiputra status btw

I just wonder why you keep all these topics.. what is your motive? Come pm me.. =D

To make a difference.

I am a warrior with spirit of freedom. Whenever I see something that deserved criticism I express it. When it comes to racism, the three races are to be equally blamed as well.

/k/eyboard warrior?

I, as an outsider, do encounter Chinese on daily basis. Some of them do not know about their brethren in China of Hui Muslim descent. I am here to educate the Han Chinese that there are many Muslim Chinese in China, and they speak better Mandarin, practice Chinese culture, except that there are Muslims.

因为人类是同一个大家庭。知道吗，朋友？你们华侨汉族也不是无错，反省反省吧。这世界需要 “爱”。明白没有？

One more Chinese Muslim Hui clip:

it happens worldwide.
i was jus saying, previously u tried to make a point they r not grow like the muslim.

Err...It's funny whenever i hear China Chinese calling them Hui Zu (meaning Islam Tribe)

I'll try explain to them that Islam = religion but not a tribe. There is no Hui Zu cus if there is, then christian will be calling themselves Tian Zu and the buddhist Fo Zu?

Anyway, back to the statement above, these Hui Zu ppl's look are very identical and u can tell the difference quite easily, similar to Pakistanian.

Secondly, they don't actually practice Islamic as far as i know. It's only a tribe's name to them...

Err...It's funny whenever i hear China Chinese calling them Hui Zu (meaning Islam Tribe)

I'll try explain to them that Islam = religion but not a tribe. There is no Hui Zu cus if there is, then christian will be calling themselves Tian Zu and the buddhist Fo Zu?

Anyway, back to the statement above, these Hui Zu ppl's look are very identical and u can tell the difference quite easily, similar to Pakistanian.

Secondly, they don't actually practice Islamic as far as i know. It's only a tribe's name to them...

Remember, you dont acknowledge yourself to be a chinese. So why bother.

Chinese Muslims looked like Pakistanian? You are high on Vodka? Have you been to China to generalize like that?

And yes, they labeled themselves as 回族。That's the title that the Chinese government conferred upon them too. Basically, Hui Zu and Han Zu are no different.

No. It's a way of advising the Malays to look upon their brethren, the Chinese Muslim of China with admiration and adopt their way, instead of becoming like the Taliban scum wahhabi ideologue. It's also a way to advice the Malaysian Chinese to witness their Chinese brethren in China who are Muslims but not very much different from them.

That's the original intention. I made it public now. 

yes i live in Shanghai....Hui Zu and Han Zu no difference?...well...maybe Hui Zu i know all belongs to a smaller ethic and they look very different than the rest of the chinese. Darker skin and curly hair